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February 22, 2017, 08:24:18 PM
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People can manipulate the price by controlling the supply and demand, although it'll take a long stride to be able to handle the entire pricing. There are many people in life mining to do this, but for making it from investing online millions may be needed for aspiring gains.
I don't know exactly about it since i never do something like that
But in theory you can do manipulating the market by buying a lot of bitcoin enough
Set some price to sell periodically and be patient waiting for someone get trapped
Is it what are you trying to say? Soundslike crazy but makes sebse yeah.

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February 22, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
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People can manipulate the price by controlling the supply and demand, although it'll take a long stride to be able to handle the entire pricing. There are many people in life mining to do this, but for making it from investing online millions may be needed for aspiring gains.
Yes, when you can actually control the supply and demand then everything can you manipulation. but I'm not sure that anyone can manipulate the bitcoin, everything looks natural so that if there is a rise in demand due to it being up.
If people could manipulate a regulated stock market in the late 80s you think that it is not possible with bitcoin and that too with no regulations in place  Tongue that is quite funny to think like that and if you look at the charts it is quite obvious that the price has being manipulated several times even in the past three months. So yes it can be manupulated.
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February 23, 2017, 04:18:02 AM
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People can manipulate the price by controlling the supply and demand, although it'll take a long stride to be able to handle the entire pricing. There are many people in life mining to do this, but for making it from investing online millions may be needed for aspiring gains.
Yes, when you can actually control the supply and demand then everything can you manipulation. but I'm not sure that anyone can manipulate the bitcoin, everything looks natural so that if there is a rise in demand due to it being up.
If people could manipulate a regulated stock market in the late 80s you think that it is not possible with bitcoin and that too with no regulations in place  Tongue that is quite funny to think like that and if you look at the charts it is quite obvious that the price has being manipulated several times even in the past three months. So yes it can be manupulated.
By just observing the price movement, you can already tell that bitcoin is manipulated as of this time. We have seen big dump which will be followed by a big pump, that is a big signals that there is a manipulation that is happening. However, we cannot prevent that from happening as whales will continue to abuse their power for their interest of gaining more profit.

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February 23, 2017, 05:34:44 AM
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Definitely a person with huge funds and number of bitcoins can manipulate price.  They just need to make use of the news whatever it is to their advantage.  With the help of the press, even if the news is just a rumor or exaggerated, it will influence people and if it is a Badpress will shake weak hands into selling then sheeps follows resulting to massive dump to fill the order of this whale.

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February 23, 2017, 05:41:40 AM
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could be, when you have a number that many or more than 50% then all the things you can do include control bitcoin. I'm sure, that there are currently doing so.
there are millions of bitcoin spread, if you have at least 100k bitcoin. I'm sure you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. even able to control a market of bitcoin.
The key is to have a very large bankroll
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February 23, 2017, 11:29:27 AM
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Being an individual, it is almost impossible to manipulate bitcoin price unless you have few millions to trade in crypto currency market. However, if you have a group of traders with you with good numbers of investment, you may try to put some fake trading requests with good volume and you wish may be fulfilled. But the chance is rare.

Check the market cap of bitcoin. So it is not possible for an individual to fake bitcoin price. A million dollar may come handy there. Just a suggestion!

We do not need millions of dollars to manipulate. So manipulation with million dollars can be done, but that's not the only way.

For example, manipulation with media organizations may be possible. It is possible to manipulate prices through news sites that broadcast Bitcoin. With the negative news, it is possible to reduce the price. We can buy bitcoin at a low price. Then we can sell it when the price goes up.
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February 23, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
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People can manipulate the price by controlling the supply and demand, although it'll take a long stride to be able to handle the entire pricing. There are many people in life mining to do this, but for making it from investing online millions may be needed for aspiring gains.
I don't know exactly about it since i never do something like that
But in theory you can do manipulating the market by buying a lot of bitcoin enough
Set some price to sell periodically and be patient waiting for someone get trapped
Is it what are you trying to say? Soundslike crazy but makes sebse yeah.
The key is to have a large capital and have a good strategy to manipulate prices in the market bitcoin. it would be better if you have a team. so you can more easily in running your strategy

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February 23, 2017, 01:22:23 PM
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could be, when you have a number that many or more than 50% then all the things you can do include control bitcoin. I'm sure, that there are currently doing so.
To be honest it is really hard to understand what are you talking about, you mean if the person owns 50 per cent of all bitcoins? Because it is impossible... And it is impossible to manipulate bitcoins for sure, the price depends on all the people.
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February 23, 2017, 01:40:27 PM
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could be, when you have a number that many or more than 50% then all the things you can do include control bitcoin. I'm sure, that there are currently doing so.
there are millions of bitcoin spread, if you have at least 100k bitcoin. I'm sure you can manipulate the price of bitcoin. even able to control a market of bitcoin.
The key is to have a very large bankroll

You still can't manipulate the bitcoin price even you are the most riches man who hold tones of bitcoin you will not waste bitcoin just to manipulate it, maybe the volume of trading in exchange can be fake but not the bitcoin price many people will be react on this.



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February 23, 2017, 05:54:57 PM
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

If you are asking the community or the individuals, it can't be manipulate. All I know is the big whale investors only can do the manipulation of the price value of bitcoin or the Big exchanges site can that also to manipulate due to they get bitcoin by volume.
of course ordinary users will not be able to perform manipulation on bitcoin, need a big team that has substantial capital and good cooperation, such as making issues that affect the price and so forth
In fact even the big whale cannot manipulate the price of bitcoin. Actually the number of bitcoin users are now increasing, and the users of bitcoin are present in all over the world so it is now becoming more and more difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin. I think even the Chinese who have the more bitcoin users and minor still they cannot manipulate the price of bitcoin.
I disagree with this, while a lone whale cannot expect to manipulate the price of bitcoin for a long time, a joint action by large whales, exchanges and miners can affect the price of bitcoin, I think in the future this will change as more people adopt bitcoin, but right now that is the reality we live in.



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February 23, 2017, 06:22:51 PM
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Manipulation of prices in the currency market has always been the basis of transactions. I know that almost all the great players are those who have even a little but a crook for greater profits.
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February 23, 2017, 07:13:04 PM
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

If you are asking the community or the individuals, it can't be manipulate. All I know is the big whale investors only can do the manipulation of the price value of bitcoin or the Big exchanges site can that also to manipulate due to they get bitcoin by volume.
of course ordinary users will not be able to perform manipulation on bitcoin, need a big team that has substantial capital and good cooperation, such as making issues that affect the price and so forth
In fact even the big whale cannot manipulate the price of bitcoin. Actually the number of bitcoin users are now increasing, and the users of bitcoin are present in all over the world so it is now becoming more and more difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin. I think even the Chinese who have the more bitcoin users and minor still they cannot manipulate the price of bitcoin.
I disagree with this, while a lone whale cannot expect to manipulate the price of bitcoin for a long time, a joint action by large whales, exchanges and miners can affect the price of bitcoin, I think in the future this will change as more people adopt bitcoin, but right now that is the reality we live in.
Even exchange controls the administration, which may well make an impact on bitcoin exchange rate and recent drop in early 2017 probably their handiwork.
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February 23, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
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could be, when you have a number that many or more than 50% then all the things you can do include control bitcoin. I'm sure, that there are currently doing so.
To be honest it is really hard to understand what are you talking about, you mean if the person owns 50 per cent of all bitcoins? Because it is impossible... And it is impossible to manipulate bitcoins for sure, the price depends on all the people.
All manipulations that may even occur with bitcoin, do not go to the benefit of cryptocurrency. Many users do not want to risk it and go, and thus suffers from the popularity and spread of bitcoin.
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February 23, 2017, 09:20:15 PM
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People can manipulate the price by controlling the supply and demand, although it'll take a long stride to be able to handle the entire pricing. There are many people in life mining to do this, but for making it from investing online millions may be needed for aspiring gains.
I don't know exactly about it since i never do something like that
But in theory you can do manipulating the market by buying a lot of bitcoin enough
Set some price to sell periodically and be patient waiting for someone get trapped
Is it what are you trying to say? Soundslike crazy but makes sebse yeah.
The key is to have a large capital and have a good strategy to manipulate prices in the market bitcoin. it would be better if you have a team. so you can more easily in running your strategy
In general, it seems to me that the influence bitcoin exchange rate and raise their income through other users is not very honestly. Of course, it has some risk for you and for the whole team, but in fact it's a scam.
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

We cannot manipulate bitcoin price individually, that is insane. Only the big whalers has a capacity to do that or the biggest exchange site where they get a huge volume of bitcoin.


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February 24, 2017, 01:51:14 AM
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

We cannot manipulate bitcoin price individually, that is insane. Only the big whalers has a capacity to do that or the biggest exchange site where they get a huge volume of bitcoin.
The information we had is we know there are whales who can manipulate the price but we will not know who exactly these people are and where they are right now. Also, we are not sure if whales do visit bitcointalk or they are active here, what we have is just a mere speculation and we live to that speculation the same with what we are doing in predicting how the price move.

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February 24, 2017, 02:25:44 AM
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

We cannot manipulate bitcoin price individually, that is insane. Only the big whalers has a capacity to do that or the biggest exchange site where they get a huge volume of bitcoin.
The information we had is we know there are whales who can manipulate the price but we will not know who exactly these people are and where they are right now. Also, we are not sure if whales do visit bitcointalk or they are active here, what we have is just a mere speculation and we live to that speculation the same with what we are doing in predicting how the price move.
Atleast we believe that bitcoin price is always tend too rise. although we do not know who are the big players that manipulate the price of bitcoin but we still can get profit as long as we not worry when the price down and be patient for wait the price rise.


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February 24, 2017, 02:29:11 PM
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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

We cannot manipulate bitcoin price individually, that is insane. Only the big whalers has a capacity to do that or the biggest exchange site where they get a huge volume of bitcoin.
The information we had is we know there are whales who can manipulate the price but we will not know who exactly these people are and where they are right now. Also, we are not sure if whales do visit bitcointalk or they are active here, what we have is just a mere speculation and we live to that speculation the same with what we are doing in predicting how the price move.

Probably not but it doesn't matter. Say that there's a whale that's active here on bitcointalk, he wouldn't post stuffs saying that he's a whale. He's just making himself a target from the hackers and he can be mistakenly took as a troll until he posts a signature by an address that holds thousands of bitcoins.

Even if we find out the whereabouts of these whales, it wouldn't help us prevent any future manipulation that's going to happen. You also can't blame a whale if he chose to dump thousands of coins all at once because he's just a human like us and he might needed fiat at that time. His action can be looked at a manipulation when he simply sold his coins because he need money.

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It's only possible if we together can accumulate an amount of Bitcoin equivalent to the Bitcoin market cap else the big boys and others whales with more bitcoins and mines will have more uncontrolled influence and Bitcoin price will keep fluctuating as and when they pump or dump.
bro I don’t think this is the only way if we together can accumulate an amount of Bitcoin equivalent to the Bitcoin market cap people are doing this my controlling the supplies and their demand and many people doing it and mine will have more uncontrolled influence but  up to some extend it can be controllable and price of bitcoins are fluctuated but its growth rate is much impressive according to its price.

This massive prices of bitcoin will definitely stop any group from manipulating it due to high capital requirements. It means when bitcoin finds its appreciations it goes more stronger than before.

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I know there are many big players who manipulate bitcoin price and make huge profits but can we the bitcointalk members also form a cartel and let bitcoin price never fall?is it possible that we manipulate price as I am sure most of bitcoin users visit this forum

We cannot manipulate bitcoin price individually, that is insane. Only the big whalers has a capacity to do that or the biggest exchange site where they get a huge volume of bitcoin.
This is true but having big quantities of bitcoins is not the only way to manipulate the price, the media could embark in an even more aggressive campaign against bitcoin and spread as much FUD as possible and in that way try to reduce the price of bitcoin, in fact I think this is about to happen with the prices of bitcoin reaching new highs in this week.



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