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One of four hostages abducted in the Philippines last September has been killed hours after a Monday deadline for a $6.5 million ransom expired. The al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf group kidnapped four people from a resort on Samal Island in September 2015. The hostages—John Ridsdel and Robert Hall, both Canadian; Marites Flor, a Filipina; and Kjartan Sekkingstad, a Norwegian––all had appeared in a video asking their governments to secure their release. Earlier Monday, Abu Sayyaf demanded a $6.5 million ransom and threatened to behead a hostage if the money wasn’t delivered by 3 p.m. When that deadline passed, a severed head was dropped into the town center in Jolo. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau confirmed that Ridsdel had been killed. Filipino authorities have not officially identified the victim. Reuters reported: “We are being very careful, we can't say whose head it was,” army spokesman Major Felimon Tan told reporters, adding that tests would be carried out to identify the victim.
Residents found the head in the center of Jolo town. Tan said two men on a motorcycle were seen dropping a plastic bag containing the severed head. http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/philippines-abu-sayyaf/479787/
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April 25, 2016, 07:55:19 PM |
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If those who are in power responded with a drop of 100 000k troops when this happens, it wouldn't happen.
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April 25, 2016, 08:43:22 PM |
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If those who are in power responded with a drop of 100 000k troops when this happens, it wouldn't happen.
Probably small "hunter-killer" groups would be more useful in such environment, but in general I agree with your concept. Terrorists should have a bounty on their heads and should be hunted down even if that takes years.
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April 25, 2016, 10:52:23 PM |
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It's so sad a large nation like the Philippines is so lame that they cannot clean out an Island region full of Islamic terrorists.
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April 26, 2016, 05:49:59 AM |
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If those who are in power responded with a drop of 100 000k troops when this happens, it wouldn't happen.
Probably small "hunter-killer" groups would be more useful in such environment, but in general I agree with your concept. Terrorists should have a bounty on their heads and should be hunted down even if that takes years. How about four decades? That is how long they have been at it. It's so sad a large nation like the Philippines is so lame that they cannot clean out an Island region full of Islamic terrorists.
It isn't only islamic terrorists. It's also movements for independence or autonomy. Going there and killing everyone won't work. Didn't work in ireland. In the basque country. In palestine. Etc.
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April 26, 2016, 08:35:42 AM |
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If those who are in power responded with a drop of 100 000k troops when this happens, it wouldn't happen.
Probably small "hunter-killer" groups would be more useful in such environment, but in general I agree with your concept. Terrorists should have a bounty on their heads and should be hunted down even if that takes years. How about four decades? That is how long they have been at it. It's so sad a large nation like the Philippines is so lame that they cannot clean out an Island region full of Islamic terrorists.
It isn't only islamic terrorists. It's also movements for independence or autonomy. Going there and killing everyone won't work. Didn't work in ireland. In the basque country. In palestine. Etc. Four decades. Six presidents. Thousands of lives (and counting), mostly those of innocent ones have been compromised because of this problem in the Southern Philippines. You can't say it's purely religious in nature. The terrorists are just using their being Muslim as an excuse to take hostages, make demands, sometimes kill foreigners and natives. Many times the government tried to stop them, but as one presidentiable said, we can't keep on killing our countrymen. Something must be done to end all this, and this starts by talking to each other.
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April 26, 2016, 09:27:25 AM |
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Thats a very terrible news. What they will achieve in killing an innocent live. When this blood shed will end?
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April 26, 2016, 10:22:42 AM |
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April 26, 2016, 11:06:14 AM |
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It's so sad a large nation like the Philippines is so lame that they cannot clean out an Island region full of Islamic terrorists.
perfectly agreed.. but every country on earth whether its religion cristianty or not must be cleaned from islamic terrorists.. they are very dangerous for our modern civilization for sure..
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April 26, 2016, 11:13:33 AM |
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May their soul rest in peace.
Phillipines is not that rich to pay all the terrorist demanded, If duterte win in presidential election i hope he can eliminate those terrorist.
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April 26, 2016, 11:21:43 AM |
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May their soul rest in peace.
Phillipines is not that rich to pay all the terrorist demanded, If duterte win in presidential election i hope he can eliminate those terrorist.
I agree and i think the national government havent paid yet any ransom to any foreigners. Its the local government that makes talk to higher then it would be settled. The country is in debt in many ways. And that is also an issue that started during the start of democracy if im not mistaken.
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April 26, 2016, 01:30:54 PM |
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killing should be avoided
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April 26, 2016, 02:03:34 PM |
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killing should be avoided
People should never be hungry People should never be cold rainbows and lucky charms are nice and all but it's not possible to have this for everyone.
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April 27, 2016, 11:36:42 PM |
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May their soul rest in peace.
Phillipines is not that rich to pay all the terrorist demanded, If duterte win in presidential election i hope he can eliminate those terrorist.
I agree and i think the national government havent paid yet any ransom to any foreigners. Its the local government that makes talk to higher then it would be settled. The country is in debt in many ways. And that is also an issue that started during the start of democracy if im not mistaken. Wouldn't be the philippines that would pay the ransom. It would be the other countries. In this case canada. But wasn't likely to happen. And also "The president of the Philippines had asked that Canada not pay the ransom, saying it was the only way to stop the kidnapping industry" killing should be avoided
People should never be hungry People should never be cold rainbows and lucky charms are nice and all but it's not possible to have this for everyone. It's not impossible. But we would need different priorities. Like not putting profit and power above lives.
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April 28, 2016, 12:09:39 AM Last edit: April 28, 2016, 12:21:35 AM by TPTB_need_war |
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Duterte will be elected President of the Philippines on May 9, and he will clean up the Philippines same as he did in Davao. It is going to get very bloody in the Philippines after June 30 inauguration.
The filipinos are fed up with crime and drugs. The Abu Sayaf will be wiped off the face of the earth by Duterte. He is pissed off about them kidnapping from Samal Island here next to Davao. I been to that precise Marina where those foreigners were kidnapped from. If ever they try to kidnap me, they will have to kill me because they aren't taking me alive. They will have to shoot me or come get me, either way someone is going to bleed to death (and if I am lucky it might not be me). I am crazy Cherokee native blooded motherfucker. I can't believe those hostages got into the boat when guns were pointed at them. Fight! Charge the motherfucks like a drug-crazed (or run away if that seems more plausible), will not quit until dead lunatic. Take bullets, it is more warrior-like than decapitation.
The kidnapping shit is all about money and politics. Someone is protecting the Abu Sayaf.
Durterte will share revenue with the localities and then the MILF will crack down on the Abu Sayaf. The entire Western and Southern side of Mindanao is really a hell hole.
However, perhaps the international elite plan to fuck up Duterte's plans. They could start funding Islamic fundamentalism in the Philippines. But I think they will not succeed. Filipinos love family and simple life.
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April 28, 2016, 12:45:49 AM |
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It's so sad a large nation like the Philippines is so lame that they cannot clean out an Island region full of Islamic terrorists.
That's true because of corrupt public officials they cannot wipe out terrorism in the country. Even they were alliance with US and other countries I don't know why they can't wipe them out.
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April 28, 2016, 02:35:52 PM |
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One of four hostages abducted in the Philippines last September has been killed hours after a Monday deadline for a $6.5 million ransom expired. The al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf group kidnapped four people from a resort on Samal Island in September 2015. The hostages—John Ridsdel and Robert Hall, both Canadian; Marites Flor, a Filipina; and Kjartan Sekkingstad, a Norwegian––all had appeared in a video asking their governments to secure their release. Earlier Monday, Abu Sayyaf demanded a $6.5 million ransom and threatened to behead a hostage if the money wasn’t delivered by 3 p.m. When that deadline passed, a severed head was dropped into the town center in Jolo. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau confirmed that Ridsdel had been killed. Filipino authorities have not officially identified the victim. Reuters reported: “We are being very careful, we can't say whose head it was,” army spokesman Major Felimon Tan told reporters, adding that tests would be carried out to identify the victim.
Residents found the head in the center of Jolo town. Tan said two men on a motorcycle were seen dropping a plastic bag containing the severed head. http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/philippines-abu-sayyaf/479787/yes i see on tv news,its bad news for some country who have any victim on abu sayyaf kidnapped,and some of the are indonesian,and when hear about australian killied by abu sayyaf group,family from indonesian victim so sad and more worry about their husband and dad.
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April 30, 2016, 02:14:52 PM |
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I don't understand why these Western nationals want to travel to terrorist-ridden regions such as Mindanao, Turkey, Egypt, and Tunisia. In these places tourists have been targeted by the terrorists many times in the past. But still, these stupid tourists want to visit these regions. Check Tunisia. Even after the terrorist attack, it remains one of the favorite destinations for the British tourists.
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April 30, 2016, 05:17:00 PM |
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Do these ransoms ever get paid? if i ever get kidnapped and my captors tell me they are requesting x million dollars from my government or they are going to kill me then its going to be pretty apparent that it will be game over soon. But like above poster says, dont go to terrorist ridden countries and dont get kidnapped. simples.
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April 30, 2016, 06:16:38 PM |
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Do these ransoms ever get paid?
In most of the cases, YES. Take the case of the Somali pirates. At the peak of piracy, they were making hundreds of millions of USD worth of ransom money every year, by hijacking the cargo ships and kidnapping the crew. When the ransom was refused, the Somalis either killed their captives, or chopped off their limbs. The same with the ISIS as well. Most of the captives (Assyrians, foreigners.etc) were freed after paying ransom.
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