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April 27, 2016, 03:42:35 PM
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Today i received a PM from Wewillallbeforgotten that he was the original owner of account and says that it was hacked around 6months ago.He is offline atm.



How did i got the account?

I bought it from ActSeller on 25th January 2016 as Jr.Member pot Sr.Member for 0.035BTC

Here was the escrow thread for this:-  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340089.0  . TriggerX was the escrow for this trade.

Escrow Transaction Link:-
https://blockchain.info/tx/bdd6ac19ba50d6f5fd896f3b6b0bb0e1f277d70ce4733d9d6085c0656b77de84

I asked him for signed message but he said that there wasn't any address staked by him or he bought from the previous owner.
So i did quoted his post in escrow thread where he posted that he had sold it to StarOfBtc that was me at that time (now i have sold the account:-StarofBtc as well)

After buying it I posted a post in Alt. List thread about it and i guess i had sent details about it to someone (Got it!!)

Here is the link to post where Lutpin has confirmed it:- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg13676741#msg13676741

And, now the original owner wants his account back.




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April 27, 2016, 03:54:40 PM
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no signed message were given when you bought it? if that's case you have no proof that the account was not hacked. but if the "real owner" can't sign a message he can't prove a thing too.

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April 27, 2016, 03:57:56 PM
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no signed message were given when you bought it?

Yeah no signed message from the account but i had quoted his post saying up that he had sold up the account to me .It would have been lot easier if i had that all PMS in my account :-StarofBtc and now it is sold and all of my PM's are deleted.
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April 27, 2016, 04:02:09 PM
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no signed message were given when you bought it?

Yeah no signed message from the account but i had quoted his post saying up that he had sold up the account to me .It would have been lot easier if i had that all PMS in my account :-StarofBtc and now it is sold and all of my PM's are deleted.

whose PMs? Avirunes or :-StarofBtc? if Avirunes you might be able to get your PMs restored if you ask theymos. same thing for :-StarofBtc but you'll have to ask the current owner's assistance.

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April 27, 2016, 04:08:23 PM
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no signed message were given when you bought it?

Yeah no signed message from the account but i had quoted his post saying up that he had sold up the account to me .It would have been lot easier if i had that all PMS in my account :-StarofBtc and now it is sold and all of my PM's are deleted.

whose PMs? Avirunes or :-StarofBtc? if Avirunes you might be able to get your PMs restored if you ask theymos. same thing for :-StarofBtc but you'll have to ask the current owner's assistance.

But I dont think it will.be much worth as PMs doesn't contains anything much important.Moreover TriggerX can confirm about the trade and I still have the escrow thread and his post where he had confirmed that he sold the account to.me.I will.ask TriggerX to post up here as well.
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April 27, 2016, 04:29:05 PM
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If the account was hacked 6 months ago then that automatically rules out him signing this address to prove his word.
Looking back through is posts there is this address which I believe is a deposit address for CloudBet. Considering there is only one transaction in, and the post is complaining about a deposit, you can assume that this address (1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E) was his. While it hasn't been active since 2014, if he can sign that address it could perhaps prove something.
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April 27, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
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If the account was hacked 6 months ago then that automatically rules out him signing this address to prove his word.
Looking back through is posts there is this address which I believe is a deposit address for CloudBet. Considering there is only one transaction in, and the post is complaining about a deposit, you can assume that this address (1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E) was his. While it hasn't been active since 2014, if he can sign that address it could perhaps prove something.

Well its still not clear that this was the address he owned.It might be  like that he had asked a guy to pay directly to his cloudbet wallet if he had a trade. The thing is that no address was staked so i think it is clear.Though i had sent a msg to the original owner(as he said) and asked him for a signed message.
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April 27, 2016, 05:13:56 PM
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I checked back at the PMs and I can confirm I was the escrow for this trade. Looking back at the messages I didn't receive a signed address from the original account and believed the buyer had no problem with it. Did this supposed owner of the account provide a signed address of any kind from a date before you bought the account?

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April 27, 2016, 05:18:55 PM
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I checked back at the PMs and I can confirm I was the escrow for this trade. Looking back at the messages I didn't receive a signed address from the original account and believed the buyer had no problem with it. Did this supposed owner of the account provide a signed address of any kind from a date before you bought the account?

No i didn't got any sort of signed message from the owner of the account(at that time).
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April 27, 2016, 10:41:46 PM
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Does the supposed owner of the account have any proof that the account was previously his?

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April 28, 2016, 01:06:40 AM
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Hi, i am the original owner of Avirunes. I'm not sure the exact time it was hacked/hijacked but the last post from me is from August last year. Please bear with me with the following info as i only have access to an ipad atm so it's a bit harder to check everything. The 1Nuy address was mine, however unfortunately i deleted the key when i switched to a custom generated address (1SamNz....), although there should be plenty of interaction between 1Nuy and 1SamNz. I also have transactions between 1Nuy and my local bitcoins account in my transaction history which i will post.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/avirunes/

(This account was also created several years ago)

This one https://archive.is/F2icv#selection-818.2-865.66 , is a cloudbet deposit address which is listed in my cloudbet accounts deposit history. I have taken a bunch of screenshots showing what bitcoin addresses i have access too that might prove acct ownership, my localbitcoins transaction history with 1Nuy in 2014, cloudbet transaction showing 15ajt was one of my deposit addresses, a couple of pms. I will post the link below if i can on this account. Obviously these won't be proof as they could be manipulated, but if i know what info from them would be useful then we can verify that info properly.

Thanks

http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c
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April 28, 2016, 01:42:05 AM
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If the "original" owner can successfully prove it to you are you willing to give back account,?
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April 28, 2016, 02:17:30 AM
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Hi, i am the original owner of Avirunes. I'm not sure the exact time it was hacked/hijacked but the last post from me is from August last year. Please bear with me with the following info as i only have access to an ipad atm so it's a bit harder to check everything. The 1Nuy address was mine, however unfortunately i deleted the key when i switched to a custom generated address (1SamNz....), although there should be plenty of interaction between 1Nuy and 1SamNz. I also have transactions between 1Nuy and my local bitcoins account in my transaction history which i will post.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/avirunes/

(This account was also created several years ago)

This one https://archive.is/F2icv#selection-818.2-865.66 , is a cloudbet deposit address which is listed in my cloudbet accounts deposit history. I have taken a bunch of screenshots showing what bitcoin addresses i have access too that might prove acct ownership, my localbitcoins transaction history with 1Nuy in 2014, cloudbet transaction showing 15ajt was one of my deposit addresses, a couple of pms. I will post the link below if i can on this account. Obviously these won't be proof as they could be manipulated, but if i know what info from them would be useful then we can verify that info properly.

Thanks

http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

Still doesn't really proves that this is the account you own.Maybe you have bought the localbitcoins account.What I need is a solid proof.

If the "original" owner can successfully prove it to you are you willing to give back account,?

Yeah i will give the account back if he *successfully* proves that he is the account owner.
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April 28, 2016, 02:33:48 AM
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Does this screenshot proves that he is Avirunes real owner:- http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

Please guys i need your help.
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April 28, 2016, 03:05:30 AM
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Does this screenshot proves that he is Avirunes real owner:- http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

Please guys i need your help.

I would say he is most likely the original owner however whether he was hacked or sold it himself is the issue and really can't be proved otherwise. It odd that he is coming in to claim it after some time. I'm skeptical. I don't think he is telling the full story of how he lost the control.
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April 28, 2016, 03:13:19 AM
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Does this screenshot proves that he is Avirunes real owner:- http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

Please guys i need your help.

I would say he is most likely the original owner however whether he was hacked or sold it himself is the issue and really can't be proved otherwise. It odd that he is coming in to claim it after some time. I'm skeptical. I don't think he is telling the full story of how he lost the control.

Yeah thats what am still thinking.It might be also that he had sold the account to ActSeller and now wants to claim it back saying that he was hacked earlier.Thats why am really waiting for ActSeller to come in this thread and tell us more about it that how he got the account.
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April 28, 2016, 03:35:39 AM
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Hi, i am the original owner of Avirunes. I'm not sure the exact time it was hacked/hijacked but the last post from me is from August last year. Please bear with me with the following info as i only have access to an ipad atm so it's a bit harder to check everything. The 1Nuy address was mine, however unfortunately i deleted the key when i switched to a custom generated address (1SamNz....), although there should be plenty of interaction between 1Nuy and 1SamNz. I also have transactions between 1Nuy and my local bitcoins account in my transaction history which i will post.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/avirunes/

(This account was also created several years ago)

This one https://archive.is/F2icv#selection-818.2-865.66 , is a cloudbet deposit address which is listed in my cloudbet accounts deposit history. I have taken a bunch of screenshots showing what bitcoin addresses i have access too that might prove acct ownership, my localbitcoins transaction history with 1Nuy in 2014, cloudbet transaction showing 15ajt was one of my deposit addresses, a couple of pms. I will post the link below if i can on this account. Obviously these won't be proof as they could be manipulated, but if i know what info from them would be useful then we can verify that info properly.

Thanks

http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

@OP you deserve red feedback because i also got it because of this , i also do bought this account and someone with high comment karma on reddit with "calaber24p" name made a post that his account was hacked and gmaxwell gave me a negative trust. I also bought this account from Actseller , he did not gave me a signed message because he said the account has no staked address.
if you dont deserve red feedback then i also dont. Actseller can confirm that i bought this account from him.
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April 28, 2016, 03:50:41 AM
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Does this screenshot proves that he is Avirunes real owner:- http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

Please guys i need your help.
Most likely yes. If he has an access to the previous email that is linked in avirunes profile then he can also use that as a proof more. With the screenshot I'm guessing he still has access on the email.

 Btw, there is already a scam accusation against acctseller that he did sold havked accounts and I am assuming that all the account that he is selling is cheap for a reason that it was illegally obtained. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429038.0
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April 28, 2016, 03:54:43 AM
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@OP you deserve red feedback because i also got it because of this , i also do bought this account and someone with high comment karma on reddit with "calaber24p" name made a post that his account was hacked and gmaxwell gave me a negative trust. I also bought this account from Actseller , he did not gave me a signed message because he said the account has no staked address.
if you dont deserve red feedback then i also dont. Actseller can confirm that i bought this account from him.

Why i deserve a red feedback? I didn't hacked the account.Moreover i have all the proofs that shows that i bought the account not hacked the account.
I think ActSeller better deserves it,though am waiting for him, to show up in this thread. Still also the new owner doesn't have any concrete proof.It might also be that he(new owner) never owned this thread (1NuYgr8p1pu8MkfEtkynebL4b4mjjdRz9E).


Does this screenshot proves that he is Avirunes real owner:- http://m.imgur.com/a/qUF4c

Please guys i need your help.
Most likely yes. If he has an access to the previous email that is linked in avirunes profile then he can also use that as a proof more. With the screenshot I'm guessing he still has access on the email.

 Btw, there is already a scam accusation against acctseller that he did sold havked accounts and I am assuming that all the account that he is selling is cheap for a reason that it was illegally obtained. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429038.0

Yeah so far real owner has a proof.But still there can be many case drawn.It maybe like he(one who is claiming that he is real owner) may have acquired those email,localbitcoin,cloudbet login through the way by sending a keylogger to original owner.Still concrete proof is missing. Undecided
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April 28, 2016, 04:19:00 AM
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Maybe "original" can shed some light on why after all this time he is coming back for the account? Surely if my account was stolen I would want to spread the info immediately
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