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May 02, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
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Let me quote something here:
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In decreasing order of likeliness:
  • Craig somehow fooled Gavin, private key of block 1 was not used.
  • Gavin is lying, and Gavin's message was never shown by Craig to have been signed with the pk of block 1.
  • ECSDA is broken.
  • The moon is made out of cheese.
  • Craig Wright is Satoshi
It will be quite interesting to see how this one plays out.

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Let me quote something here:
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  • Craig somehow fooled Gavin, private key of block 1 was not used.
  • ECSDA is broken.

definitely broken ECSDA........................ ECDSA

block 1 was not used. block 9 was

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May 02, 2016, 04:20:44 PM
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Gavin is pushing further.Now he says Craig is Satoshi and that he wasn't hacked.
"Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, and I have not been hacked."


https://twitter.com/btctn/status/727145824510058496


EDIT: Missing some real source here to be honest. Roger Ver published this it seems.
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May 02, 2016, 04:38:55 PM
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May 02, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
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What you guys suggest does this will create a massive dump in bitcoin? i don't think this will if he can't prove his idendity to public. Showing ownership to one person will not be reality, i don't gonna believe this hoax, holding my coin tightly.

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May 02, 2016, 05:05:28 PM
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he should do this:



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May 02, 2016, 05:21:44 PM
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I also think its him, lets face it guys its finally over with all these question about who is the one that is after it.
I like to thank him although he do not want the fame and all.

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May 02, 2016, 05:22:40 PM
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The only logical explanation would be that Craig pulled a quick one on Gavin and Gavin fell for that hook line and sinker.... Gavin cannot say, Sorry I was fooled... so he turns around and says... Sorry I was

hacked. The most common excuse when something goes wrong. Gavin cannot acknowledge that he made a mistake, because it will make him look like a fool, and everyone will stop supporting him with

his Classic proposal. Sometimes you say things without processing the consequences... The only proof, would be for Craig to sign a message with his private key or to move some coins.  Roll Eyes

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May 02, 2016, 05:25:38 PM
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Gavin is pushing further.Now he says Craig is Satoshi and that he wasn't hacked.
"Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, and I have not been hacked."


https://twitter.com/btctn/status/727145824510058496


EDIT: Missing some real source here to be honest. Roger Ver published this it seems.

Is it being live streamed? Where is all this info coming from?
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May 02, 2016, 05:25:54 PM
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The only logical explanation would be that Craig pulled a quick one on Gavin and Gavin fell for that hook line and sinker.... Gavin cannot say, Sorry I was fooled... so he turns around and says... Sorry I was

hacked. The most common excuse when something goes wrong. Gavin cannot acknowledge that he made a mistake, because it will make him look like a fool, and everyone will stop supporting him with

his Classic proposal. Sometimes you say things without processing the consequences... The only proof, would be for Craig to sign a message with his private key or to move some coins.  Roll Eyes
What? But Gavin said he WASN'T hacked, so your whole theory is wrong.


But I agree, the only logical explanation is that Craig pulled a quick one on Gavin. It's highly unlikely in my opinion that Gavin would be stupid enough to lie about something like this and ruin his whole reputation.
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May 02, 2016, 05:31:12 PM
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The only way would be if this guy really is Satoshi. But that does not seem very likely.
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May 02, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
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What the fucking fuck?



This video was put up 2 hours back by bbc

How come they interview wright at the same time when andresen speaks up at consensus?
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May 02, 2016, 05:41:16 PM
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All the mainstream press coordination reminds me of when Mike Hearn "left" Bitcoin and on that day- tons of coordinated press released-

It makes it all seem like it was planned ahead of time-
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May 02, 2016, 06:06:21 PM
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even on the BBC video he is saying he is demonstrating the first transaction ever (block 248)

here is the debunk
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/

Find it in Satoshi's 2009 transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/828ef3b079f9c23829c56fe86e85b4a69d9e06e5b54ea597eef5fb3ffef509fe?show_adv=true

Convert inputscript from hex:
3045022100c12a7d54972f26d14cb311339b5122f8c187417dde1e8efb6841f55c34220ae002206 6632c5cd4161efa3a2837764eee9eb84975dd54c2de2865e9752585c53e7cce

to base64
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

this is the signature of the transaction encrypted using the private key for: 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S
emphasis: the data is the transaction data.. that is 7 years old!! and publicly available

if he was to sign a message today! the signature, evenwhen signed with the same private key would be completely different
emphasis: signing "my name is bob" would result in a different signature than "My Name Is Bob" even when both messages are signed with the same private key.

so if you see him display:
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4=

he is not signing anything new. he is just literally copying and pasting a 7 year old message(tx) that was signed 7years ago


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May 02, 2016, 06:35:29 PM
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All the mainstream press coordination reminds me of when Mike Hearn "left" Bitcoin and on that day- tons of coordinated press released-

It makes it all seem like it was planned ahead of time-


Yeah I agree.
This looks like an coordinated "attack".
However the price did not drop that much. This is a good sign imo.
People don't believe that story until Wright shows real prove.
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May 02, 2016, 08:44:23 PM
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The entire BTC is shady. the black market who is 90% from BTC, to miners and exchangers. almost everything is shady when it's about Bitcoin Smiley

lol yet over 200,000 legitimate business accept bitcoin.

you might aswell call FIAT shady because of the street drug deals in detroit and the prostitution on the red-light district. along with all the fiat money laundering in HSBC bank. aswell as the bribes and blackmails of government officials. not only that but the banker bailouts and banker bonuses while simultaneously making millions of people homeless

in fact, you cannot buy almost anything with BTC because BTC was not made as a  currency. it's VERY hard to be understand of the normal people. 200.000 biz on paper. in reality are not even half... Smiley
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May 03, 2016, 04:41:29 AM
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If say Gavin and his classic friends made a hoax, the detail that does not match is why would they ask Andreas who is pro-core to validate it?

They might not want to release all the evidences altogether, to reduce the shock to the market, but the fact that Andreas get asked makes this claim much more likely to be true. We will see how it develops

Satoshi has 1 million coins, which can kill any fork he does not like at ease, even that fork has 99% hash rate support, so this news should never be taken lightly

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May 03, 2016, 05:00:00 AM
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He is too smart. He took a input script ,converted into a file and provided the signature,  which is open for everyone.

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May 03, 2016, 05:06:19 AM
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If say Gavin and his classic friends made a hoax, the detail that does not match is why would they ask Andreas who is pro-core to validate it?

They might not want to release all the evidences altogether, to reduce the shock to the market, but the fact that Andreas get asked makes this claim much more likely to be true. We will see how it develops

Satoshi has 1 million coins, which can kill any fork he does not like at ease, even that fork has 99% hash rate support, so this news should never be taken lightly

According to CW his 1,100,111 btc were transferred on or around 6/9/11 to a trust controlled by Dave Kleiman until 2020.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html

By the way wouldn't there be a record of 1,100,111 btc being transferred on or around 6/9/2011 from Satoshi to Kleiman? Also why would Kleiman pay market value for those coins on 6/9/2011 but then offer to return them in 2020??
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The entire BTC is shady. the black market who is 90% from BTC, to miners and exchangers. almost everything is shady when it's about Bitcoin Smiley

lol yet over 200,000 legitimate business accept bitcoin.

you might aswell call FIAT shady because of the street drug deals in detroit and the prostitution on the red-light district. along with all the fiat money laundering in HSBC bank. aswell as the bribes and blackmails of government officials. not only that but the banker bailouts and banker bonuses while simultaneously making millions of people homeless

in fact, you cannot buy almost anything with BTC because BTC was not made as a  currency. it's VERY hard to be understand of the normal people. 200.000 biz on paper. in reality are not even half... Smiley

Mate Bitcoin is not rocket science to understand. It can be both a currency and an investment vehicle but most people use it only as a long-term storage of value because they are satisfied with their fiat or don't want to spend from their Bitcoin stash because of a possible price rise. How do you define normal people? You don't need to be a computer scientist or a financial expert to use Bitcoin. Anyone can get into Bitcoin if they want to use it it's not that hard to comprehend at all.

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