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August 09, 2016, 01:02:28 PM
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Congrats for the winner in lotteries
I'm not enough lucky to win in raffle today.
I hope someday I also won.
Good luck everyone.
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August 09, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
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For the issues with the Lottery that everyone is looking for answers to:

The draw times are based on the block discovery times. We use an average discovery time to estimate the lottery draw time. For some reason currently the estimations are not so accurate therefore the lottery draw times are skewed more than we would like.

We were aiming to have the draw time maybe +- few minutes or less.

We are looking into why the estimated time of block arrival at the creation of the lottery is vastly different from the reality of when it is actually discovered.

We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early.  Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.

We will update you again as soon as possible.

Kind Regards

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August 09, 2016, 01:59:42 PM
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We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early.  Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.


What compensation will you give to those users who missed their ticket because the lottery being drawn too early? Will you give extra tickets for the next lottery or you give some mbtc or maybe freebet?
Can you give us a link to verify the last drawing?




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August 09, 2016, 02:04:36 PM
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We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early.  Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.


What compensation will you give to those users who missed their ticket because the lottery being drawn too early? Will you give extra tickets for the next lottery or you give some mbtc or maybe freebet?
Can you give us a link to verify the last drawing?

What compensation do you want for participating in a free lottery mate lol  Grin This is just an added bonus to your already wagered money anyways. Greedy much?
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August 09, 2016, 02:14:21 PM
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We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early.  Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.


What compensation will you give to those users who missed their ticket because the lottery being drawn too early? Will you give extra tickets for the next lottery or you give some mbtc or maybe freebet?
Can you give us a link to verify the last drawing?

What compensation do you want for participating in a free lottery mate lol  Grin This is just an added bonus to your already wagered money anyways. Greedy much?

LOL, why you asked me like that? I asked them because I do not know what compensation they are talking about, and I did not even join the lottery. I asked it just for my curiousity and perhaps others also curious about is as well.




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August 09, 2016, 02:46:05 PM
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We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early.  Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.


What compensation will you give to those users who missed their ticket because the lottery being drawn too early? Will you give extra tickets for the next lottery or you give some mbtc or maybe freebet?
Can you give us a link to verify the last drawing?

What compensation do you want for participating in a free lottery mate lol  Grin This is just an added bonus to your already wagered money anyways. Greedy much?

LOL, why you asked me like that? I asked them because I do not know what compensation they are talking about, and I did not even join the lottery. I asked it just for my curiousity and perhaps others also curious about is as well.

Incase you wonder, the last they had something that screwed their lottery they compensate players by making additional lottery again and also they made that the ticket will be available to use for the next draw instead. I doubt that they will make that former options as it is too costly even for sportsbet
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August 09, 2016, 03:22:56 PM
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We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early.  Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.


What compensation will you give to those users who missed their ticket because the lottery being drawn too early? Will you give extra tickets for the next lottery or you give some mbtc or maybe freebet?
Can you give us a link to verify the last drawing?

What compensation do you want for participating in a free lottery mate lol  Grin This is just an added bonus to your already wagered money anyways. Greedy much?

LOL, why you asked me like that? I asked them because I do not know what compensation they are talking about, and I did not even join the lottery. I asked it just for my curiousity and perhaps others also curious about is as well.

Incase you wonder, the last they had something that screwed their lottery they compensate players by making additional lottery again and also they made that the ticket will be available to use for the next draw instead. I doubt that they will make that former options as it is too costly even for sportsbet
I think they will just give an extra ticket for those who missed out or not credited in time for the previous raffle. I see others were receiving 2 lottery tickets this day.

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August 09, 2016, 03:30:08 PM
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For the issues with the Lottery that everyone is looking for answers to:

The draw times are based on the block discovery times. We use an average discovery time to estimate the lottery draw time. For some reason currently the estimations are not so accurate therefore the lottery draw times are skewed more than we would like.

We were aiming to have the draw time maybe +- few minutes or less.

We are looking into why the estimated time of block arrival at the creation of the lottery is vastly different from the reality of when it is actually discovered.

We will compensate all users who have missed out on their tickets due to the lotteries being drawn too early.  Before we do that though, we need to fix the underlining issue.

We will update you again as soon as possible.

Kind Regards

Sportsbet.io Support

It's good to hear that. If the compensate is adding the tickets into raffle, i hope it's not include the maximum 4 tickets, but it's only the bonus ticket and we can add 4 more tickets on that raffle.
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner
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August 09, 2016, 04:30:24 PM
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Who won the last raffle? Didnt see anything about it at the site. How can this happen? And they promised the provably fair system for these raffles too, but till now I cant find it at everywhere.

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Who won the last raffle? Didnt see anything about it at the site. How can this happen? And they promised the provably fair system for these raffles too, but till now I cant find it at everywhere.

yeah no winning history. I think sportbet.io encountered an error, I hope they soon fix it to show about lottery fair.

 
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August 09, 2016, 04:55:36 PM
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Who won the last raffle? Didnt see anything about it at the site. How can this happen? And they promised the provably fair system for these raffles too, but till now I cant find it at everywhere.

yeah no winning history. I think sportbet.io encountered an error, I hope they soon fix it to show about lottery fair.

List of the winners is here :  https://sportsbet.io/lotteries/olympic-raffle-08-08?utm_source=crm&utm_medium=email&utm_content=email&utm_campaign=raffle0908
Got the link few minutes ago on my email, but I do not know about its provably fairness. Lets wait for them to confirm and give us more explanation about the new system for the drawing which they claims as a more provably fair than what they used on Euro Lotteries.

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August 09, 2016, 06:27:18 PM
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner

Just not possible but we're working on a guide to show users how it works and hopefully show that it's fair.

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August 10, 2016, 06:21:49 PM
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I have question, here is my bet: "Olympics 2016 Equestrian Team Eventing - Top 3 Equestrian: Outrights Olympics 2016 Equestrian Team Eventing - Top 3 Germany @ 1.05"

And it was concluded as a Loss. But according to Wikipedia German team was 2nd, so why did I lose this bet? Someone care to explain it to me?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_equestrian
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner

Just not possible but we're working on a guide to show users how it works and hopefully show that it's fair.
or just use an escrow.

 Undecided

The purpose of the escrow would be to ensure that prizes will be paid but no one here ever doubted about it.

Main concern seems to be the fairness ot the method winners of those prizes are chosen : and esxcrowing prizes wouldn't help thet way.

 
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August 11, 2016, 07:56:54 AM
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner

Just not possible but we're working on a guide to show users how it works and hopefully show that it's fair.
or just use an escrow.

 Undecided

The purpose of the escrow would be to ensure that prizes will be paid but no one here ever doubted about it.

Main concern seems to be the fairness ot the method winners of those prizes are chosen : and esxcrowing prizes wouldn't help thet way.

quite complicated, I think this is just a reward to attract users. I think if you like to bet, do not think too much about the gift of the Raffle. but it's good everybody wants to see the justice of it. I think sportbet.io will not do the cheat for this lottery, because I myself was getting Raffle. although not often, only 1-2 times

 
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August 11, 2016, 09:40:51 AM
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner

Just not possible but we're working on a guide to show users how it works and hopefully show that it's fair.
or just use an escrow.

 Undecided

The purpose of the escrow would be to ensure that prizes will be paid but no one here ever doubted about it.

Main concern seems to be the fairness ot the method winners of those prizes are chosen : and esxcrowing prizes wouldn't help thet way.

quite complicated, I think this is just a reward to attract users. I think if you like to bet, do not think too much about the gift of the Raffle. but it's good everybody wants to see the justice of it. I think sportbet.io will not do the cheat for this lottery, because I myself was getting Raffle. although not often, only 1-2 times

Indeed the main purpose of the lottery is to attract players to bet on their site and I also believe that sportsbet will not cheat, but since it is called a lottery so it should be provably fair. I also won few times during Euro and I happy with it, but it would be even better if we can verify the drawing.

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August 11, 2016, 05:58:36 PM
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About the lottery it will be good if sportsbet make it live while choosing the winner

Just not possible but we're working on a guide to show users how it works and hopefully show that it's fair.
or just use an escrow.

 Undecided

The purpose of the escrow would be to ensure that prizes will be paid but no one here ever doubted about it.

Main concern seems to be the fairness ot the method winners of those prizes are chosen : and esxcrowing prizes wouldn't help thet way.

quite complicated, I think this is just a reward to attract users. I think if you like to bet, do not think too much about the gift of the Raffle. but it's good everybody wants to see the justice of it. I think sportbet.io will not do the cheat for this lottery, because I myself was getting Raffle. although not often, only 1-2 times

Indeed the main purpose of the lottery is to attract players to bet on their site and I also believe that sportsbet will not cheat, but since it is called a lottery so it should be provably fair. I also won few times during Euro and I happy with it, but it would be even better if we can verify the drawing.


It is currently provably fair. We should instructions soon to make it easy for you to verify the drawing

Thank you!

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August 11, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
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It is currently provably fair. We should instructions soon to make it easy for you to verify the drawing

Thank you!

That is great news soon there will be link available to check the lottery result whether it was provably fair or not, this would leave positive on your business to make lottery result transparent and provably fair.
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August 12, 2016, 12:22:46 AM
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We were aiming to have the draw time maybe +- few minutes or less.
Pretty much impossible to do this if you pick the block a few days before the drawing. The network is sometimes blockless for half an hour to even an hour, which makes having the draw time within a few minutes almost impossible. Your best bet would be to announce the block ~2 hours before the drawing (so people can verify what the block number is), and announce a block that is estimated around 30 minutes after the wanted draw time. People won't complain about a draw being a few minutes late, which is better than having it drawn too early.

It is currently provably fair. We should instructions soon to make it easy for you to verify the drawing

Thank you!
Good job trying to make it provably fair, but I can tell you without knowing the system that is won't be provably fair. I'm guessing you use a script that converts the hash into a number, which is pretty good, except that the public doesn't know what ticket number they have, and that you guys could easily swap a ticket around so that your alts win, making the other person lose instead. To combat this, try adding tickets live, and having a page display who owns what ticket that is updated every few minutes. That way, you can't swap the ticket numbers around.

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