What would it take to convince YOU that someone is Satoshi?

[Za1n]

It looks like I'm not the only one who wants to see a simple signed message. One would think that Satoshi would understand this. It is suspicious that the inventor of a trust-less cash system would prove himself by secretly showing some reporters or Gavin then asking the world to trust their observations.

@Craig Wright -
You could convince us all by simply sending $0.01337 to this address:
1K3zm5ykoStQcWkxpqjg59dcUnFzeyqQc7

It is one of mine and obviously you need to send it from a wallet known to belong to Satoshi. I don't want your money and I'll send it back and cover the fees for doing this. As the creator of bitcoin you surely understand why this is required to be believed. It is not credible to think Satoshi can't accomplish such a simple task.

It is not only suspicious it is completely against the very nature of the person we know as Satoshi. Someone who only corresponded electronically with people and used digital signatures and PGP to prove his identity in the past, now years later is the exact opposite and only talks to people in-person to prove he is ho he says and refuses to sign anything with a valid key. I think the 180 degree reversal is much more telling than any of the non-proofs we have so far seen.

[pooya87]

it is really simple , a signed message from his known addresses which is released to the public. i don't really understand the secrecy for not showing the message, i mean what the hell is this.

maybe he thinks if he releases the signed message the bitcoin address can be hacked ROFL

Andresen says an administrative assistant working with Wright left to buy a computer from a nearby store, and returned with what Andresen describes as a Windows laptop in a “factory-sealed” box. They installed the Bitcoin software Electrum on that machine. For their test, Andresen chose the message “Gavin’s favorite number is eleven.” Wright added his initials, “CSW,” and signed the message on his own computer. Then he put the signed message on a USB stick belonging to Andresen and they transferred it to the new laptop, where Andresen checked the signature.

the only thing missing here is a blanket so they could both hide under it with a flashlight so nobody can see them while wearing a tinfoil hat

[enhu]

Could it be because he doesn't have access to the known btc address anymore. thus the reason why he can't withdraw the millions from that wallet?  if this is the case, he should forget claiming instead even if he's the real satoshi for there is no way he can convince anyone without he sign message.

[mki8]

1 million bitcoins

[Junko]

Signing the genesis block would do it for me, along with moving bitcoins from a satoshi wallet.

At this point, for me personally, it doesn't really matter to me who Satoshi really is. As long as it isn't actually the CIA, NSA, FBI, Homeland Security, any other government entity or Amway, etc, I'm good.

[Quickseller]

What evidence would you want to see publicly to be convinced?

I would not necessarily need information to be publicly published in order for me to believe that someone is satoshi. If someone were to ask me to keep evidence private and were to personally see sufficient evidence (whatever that may be) then I would be convinced.

If someone who I trust were to publicly vouch for someone being satoshi and I do not see any problems/issues with what details they provide then I would believe they are satoshi. The problem that I see with the details that Gavin provided is that it appears that he used a computer that was provided by Wright which implies that it may have been compromised.

What information I would want to see personally would really depend on my observed interactions with the person claiming to be satoshi. If someone claiming to be satoshi were to offer one very specific piece of evidence to support that they are satoshi then I would probably be skeptical and want to see additional verifications/evidence. On the other hand, if I were to personally (or if someone who I trust -- eg theymos -- were to personally) ask for a single specific verification then I would be more believing.

I would want to acknowledge that there is the possibility that satoshi might have destroyed, and/or otherwise lost access to one or more of his private keys, so his inability to sign a message from any one of his private keys would not automatically veto his claim of being satoshi.

I would say that someone signing a message from the private key for an address strongly associated with an address associated with satoshi would probably make me believe that said person is in fact satoshi.

[RodeoX]

It seems like we all have about the same standard. And it is no surprise to experienced bitcoin peers that we want a signed message or better a spend from Satoshi's wallet. Enough of this private meetings or producing an associated address. If Craig is Satoshi then do a spend.

We require and trust in mathematics for verifying bitcoin, are we now going to trust hearsay to verify Satoshi?

[quintiilieo]

If he gave me 100 bitcoin haha just kiddin if he have a proof that he is SATOSHI.
If he can prove that he is satoshi then je will convince me that he is satoshi.
And if he can teach me how to create bitcoin.

[Quickseller]

We require and trust in mathematics for verifying bitcoin, are we now going to trust hearsay to verify Satoshi?

The decentralized nature of Bitcoin means that no one person and/or entity should not be able to say with authority what to do (eg just because satoshi says something does not necessarily mean he is right just because "he is satoshi"). Satoshi should have sufficient amounts of money to reasonably not be interested in trading with people here, along with the fact that he is likely to be the target for a lot of scams so I think it is unlikely he will engaging in any kind of trading.

Playing a bit of devils advocate, I might ask why you think so much trust should be placed into satoshis identity.

[martha5dool]

 prove Satoshi's identity

[calkob]

A Badge saying "I am Satoshi"  Ok then  lol

[Dabs]

Three things, actually 5 things but the last two are optional:

1. Signed message or spend coins from Genesis Block or Genesis Address.
2. Signed message or spend coins from any 100 blocks within the first 300 or 400 blocks of bitcoin's life.
3. Signed PGP / GPG message using the public key everyone has seen, that was on bitcoin.org and MIT server.
4. Gavin A, Mike Hearn, Jeff Garzik, theymos and many old timers, coders, irc chatters, mailing list people, all independently confirm and verify the above 3.
5. A donation of 50 BTC to each and every Legendary member of this forum. So we all could trace the blockchain and see where the coins are coming from, if they indeed come from early blocks.

There is no proof that a person is or is NOT Satoshi. There is high probability that someone who can do all the first 3 (with the last two being optional) is Satoshi.

[RodeoX]

We require and trust in mathematics for verifying bitcoin, are we now going to trust hearsay to verify Satoshi?

The decentralized nature of Bitcoin means that no one person and/or entity should not be able to say with authority what to do (eg just because satoshi says something does not necessarily mean he is right just because "he is satoshi"). Satoshi should have sufficient amounts of money to reasonably not be interested in trading with people here, along with the fact that he is likely to be the target for a lot of scams so I think it is unlikely he will engaging in any kind of trading.

Playing a bit of devils advocate, I might ask why you think so much trust should be placed into satoshis identity.

You bring up something interesting I think. Should we trust Satoshi? None of us really know him or his character. We love his idea, but as far as I know he is an awful person who eats children and kicks dogs. I suppose he is just a stranger to me and I can't trust that.

[dearbesz]

 What would it take to convince YOU that someone is Satoshi?

for me it doesn't matter if he  is Satoshi,
for what important is if ever he is the true one put some
bitcoins in my wallet address first. that's fair enough for me to believe
he is Satoshi.

[wintermeasures]

Curious what you think it takes to prove Satoshi's identity. I hear Craig Write proved it to some people, but with what? What evidence would you want to see publicly to be convinced?

I think if satoshi there, then he will have the bitcoin in large numbers. Therefore it is necessary to prove is the balance in his wallet hehe. Thank you