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that is rich, first he claims he is satoshi (as a form of identity theft) and then trolls around the whole bitcoin and those three stupid news sites and then he fakes a signed message and then he doesn't stop there ans says i will move the funds, and now that everything has fallen apart he still doesn't stop his identity theft and continues saying i am satoshi but i don't want to reveal it anymore!!
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Did anyone else catch the fact that, on top of everything else, Craig Wright scammed the BBC journalist, Jon Matonis and Gavin Andresen into each sending a couple bucks worth of bitcoin to the same address used to first send BTC to Hal Finney, before Wright threw in the towel? ( http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36213588) You can check out the exact amounts on a block explorer ( https://blockchain.info/address/12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S). Hilarious - at least the real Satoshi got something out of all this. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 06, 2016, 02:56:35 PM |
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That is so choice. I can see Craig has a bright future as a Nigerian Prince.
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May 06, 2016, 03:00:19 PM |
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That is so choice. I can see Craig has a bright future as a Nigerian Prince. I think he was already a Nigerian prince, he just managed to become a Nigerian emperor with this last attempt. This guy is definitely not Satoshi, he is bailing out of everything and providing very little evidence at all to back him up. I cannot believe that anyone thinks this guys is the actual creator of Bitcoin.
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May 06, 2016, 03:07:06 PM |
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I believe that he genuinely thought he could pull it off by carefully timing Gavin & co public announcement about SN true identity and his own blog post. He didn't realize his complicated cryptographic "proof" was so easy to debunk. Additionally he had to assume that the real SN wouldn't post any message disputing his identity.
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I have posted it before and I am surprised how you people read a lot of boring, worthless quotes and do not discuss some very canonical points I have declared here. Are you completely out of your minds? Is Bitcoin community poisoned to death?
This thread and the whole discussion is based on a false interpretation of Dr Wright's announcement: He has not "relented". He simply says that has not enough motivation/interest/mental strength to argue about his Satoshi identity. In other words Wright has observed that even moving 'holy coins' won't help to put an end to this. Wright is a sophisticated person (what else he would be), Gavin describes him as 'focused' and 'opinionated'. In his interview he simply asks a vital question: Why does he have to prove anything to anybody? There is no interest, not a bit of logic to put an obligation on him for convincing every single person for his identity. He is dealing with people who do not understand a bit and pretend to be maters of cryptography.
Possessing some silly sequence of symbols, a PK, just proves your possession of it and not your identity! Your assets, do not define your identity, you fools! And one's lack of access to some keys can not prove him/her not being somebody, you fools!
Satoshi Will destroy you all, I am sure about it, this so-called 'community' needed this shock and deserves a serious revision.
Cryptography is more and more changing to become a satanic, nihilistic religion. "You want prove your identity, do not promise, do not ask for trust, forget about showing your skills, memories, attitudes, prestige, resume ... just decipher some silly bits with your PKs."
I think this is the worst evil that human being has invented. It is worst than Uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb. It is worst than Wall Street and NSA even Worst than the invention of slavery.
Nothing is more threatening than a gigantic 'decentralized' chain of blocks of silly bits backed by a 'community' that defines our identity. And who invented this? Satoshi Nakamoto!
And Who deserves being humiliated, denied and sentenced to be/remain dead, more than any other person in the world? Satoshi Nakamoto!
I think what has made Wright such a fragile broken person is the realization of this truth. Dr. Craig Frankenstein Wright has a right to collapse: His creature denies him, sentences him to just disappear forever.
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May 06, 2016, 07:04:53 PM |
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I have posted it before and I am surprised how you people read a lot of boring, worthless quotes and do not discuss some very canonical points I have declared here. Are you completely out of your minds? Is Bitcoin community poisoned to death?
This thread and the whole discussion is based on a false interpretation of Dr Wright's announcement: He has not "relented". He simply says that has not enough motivation/interest/mental strength to argue about his Satoshi identity. In other words Wright has observed that even moving 'holy coins' won't help to put an end to this. Wright is a sophisticated person (what else he would be), Gavin describes him as 'focused' and 'opinionated'. In his interview he simply asks a vital question: Why does he have to prove anything to anybody? There is no interest, not a bit of logic to put an obligation on him for convincing every single person for his identity. He is dealing with people who do not understand a bit and pretend to be maters of cryptography.
Possessing some silly sequence of symbols, a PK, just proves your possession of it and not your identity! Your assets, do not define your identity, you fools! And one's lack of access to some keys can not prove him/her not being somebody, you fools!
Satoshi Will destroy you all, I am sure about it, this so-called 'community' needed this shock and deserves a serious revision.
Cryptography is more and more changing to become a satanic, nihilistic religion. "You want prove your identity, do not promise, do not ask for trust, forget about showing your skills, memories, attitudes, prestige, resume ... just decipher some silly bits with your PKs."
I think this is the worst evil that human being has invented. It is worst than Uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb. It is worst than Wall Street and NSA even Worst than the invention of slavery.
Nothing is more threatening than a gigantic 'decentralized' chain of blocks of silly bits backed by a 'community' that defines our identity. And who invented this? Satoshi Nakamoto!
And Who deserves being humiliated, denied and sentenced to be/remain dead, more than any other person in the world? Satoshi Nakamoto!
I think what has made Wright such a fragile broken person is the realization of this truth. Dr. Craig Frankenstein Wright has a right to collapse: His creature denies him, sentences him to just disappear forever.
Well, hello Craig.
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May 06, 2016, 07:09:06 PM |
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LoL what a clown.
Btw, Which university did he get his PhD from? They should open a case about him for speading bullshit. Yeah hide your identity for 8 years and then suddenly, decide to go public for no reason. That's just sounds like a thing Satoshi would do.
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May 06, 2016, 07:11:08 PM |
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I have posted it before and I am surprised how you people read a lot of boring, worthless quotes and do not discuss some very canonical points I have declared here.
Craig Wright claimed to be satoshi. It's reasonable to assume that satoshi, at some point, controlled the private key to the coinbase in the genesis block. Those who are asking Craig to sign a message with that private key feel that this would be strong evidence to support his claim. Craig either controls that key, or he doesn't. If he does, he can choose to sign a message or not. Apparently you have some issue with asking someone who has made an extraordinary claim (after all, satoshi went to great lengths to hide his identity) to provide some rather ordinary evidence to back that claim. We all know that controlling the private key to the coinbase in the genesis block is not a 100% guarantee that someone is satoshi (as you say, your assets do not define your identity), but it's better than any other "proof" that has been provided so far. As for math is the devil... well... LOL. Also, you say, "Your assets, do not define your identity". Then you go on to say that, "Nothing is more threatening than a gigantic 'decentralized' chain of blocks of silly bits backed by a 'community' that defines our identity." Well, which is it? You've contradicted yourself in some attempt to... I don't even know what.
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May 06, 2016, 07:16:11 PM |
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Amazing to me how unresponsable these media outlets are. Zero fact checking. They all just want to be the first to report satoshi is found without even checking to see if it's true.
No kidding. Especially BBC. They are(were) the most creditable news media outlet to me at least. So for them to relay a hoax like this is a black eye for them. They should offer a formal apology as a public announcement as well and more so to the bitcoin community who had to endure with this hack of a man.
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May 06, 2016, 07:17:56 PM |
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LoL what a clown.
Btw, Which university did he get his PhD from? They should open a case about him for speading bullshit. Yeah hide your identity for 8 years and then suddenly, decide to go public for no reason. That's just sounds like a thing Satoshi would do.
according to his long deleted linkedin profile ( archive), he got it from Charles Sturt University. according to CSU, they never awarded wright with any PhD. yep.
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May 06, 2016, 07:30:59 PM |
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LoL what a clown.
Btw, Which university did he get his PhD from? They should open a case about him for speading bullshit. Yeah hide your identity for 8 years and then suddenly, decide to go public for no reason. That's just sounds like a thing Satoshi would do.
according to his long deleted linkedin profile ( archive), he got it from Charles Sturt University. according to CSU, they never awarded wright with any PhD. yep. Saw this posted somewhere today, its 4 days old though so it may not be new news... still everyone keeps saying this man is so smart, I'm just baffled, he seems like he is smart when he talks, all of his actions seem to speak otherwise. https://medium.com/@jprichardson/did-satoshi-steal-my-blog-post-76a68cdda4f3
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May 06, 2016, 07:47:38 PM |
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I have posted it before and I am surprised how you people read a lot of boring, worthless quotes and do not discuss some very canonical points I have declared here.
Craig Wright claimed to be satoshi. It's reasonable to assume that satoshi, at some point, controlled the private key to the coinbase in the genesis block. Those who are asking Craig to sign a message with that private key feel that this would be strong evidence to support his claim. Craig either controls that key, or he doesn't. If he does, he can choose to sign a message or not. Apparently you have some issue with asking someone who has made an extraordinary claim (after all, satoshi went to great lengths to hide his identity) to provide some rather ordinary evidence to back that claim. We all know that controlling the private key to the coinbase in the genesis block is not a 100% guarantee that someone is satoshi (as you say, your assets do not define your identity), but it's better than any other "proof" that has been provided so far. As for math is the devil... well... LOL. Also, you say, "Your assets, do not define your identity". Then you go on to say that, "Nothing is more threatening than a gigantic 'decentralized' chain of blocks of silly bits backed by a 'community' that defines our identity." Well, which is it? You've contradicted yourself in some attempt to... I don't even know what. Well, glad to see someone tries to understand though fails. You say " .. it is better than any other proof that has been provided so far ... " and by this, you confess to be a Blockchain Religion believer. No!!! it is nothing. Possession of that keys ( as they can't be memorized by humans) is just a matter of ownership, physical ownership. This is it! They can be stolen, can be lost , .... In the real world it is totally a reverse case. You have to prove your identity and legitimacy of your ownership if you hold something in possession! Understand? Possession is a problem to be addressed to be legitimized! In Dr. Wright's Case, he had to convince people by: 1- Showing his absolute and deep knowledge and vision 2- Convincing people, trust worthy people, who know Satoshi better 3- Presenting his deep concerns and good intentions about the technology under consideration 4- Using his reputation and background as a respected, honest , trust worthy person 5- Putting forward his new and solid ideas about the future 6- Reasoning about his disappearance 7- Justifying his decision to reveal his Identity And I think he has almost done all of this! Regarding your assertion about my contradiction: I Couldn't find any flaw there. I am just saying if this 'community' may succeed to make PKs as the proof of identity, it will be a nightmare for humanity. Because some 'Sky Net' will decide whether people exist or not and what is their identity if they even exist.
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May 06, 2016, 07:56:26 PM |
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I have posted it before and I am surprised how you people read a lot of boring, worthless quotes and do not discuss some very canonical points I have declared here. Are you completely out of your minds? Is Bitcoin community poisoned to death?
This thread and the whole discussion is based on a false interpretation of Dr Wright's announcement: He has not "relented". He simply says that has not enough motivation/interest/mental strength to argue about his Satoshi identity. In other words Wright has observed that even moving 'holy coins' won't help to put an end to this. Wright is a sophisticated person (what else he would be), Gavin describes him as 'focused' and 'opinionated'. In his interview he simply asks a vital question: Why does he have to prove anything to anybody? There is no interest, not a bit of logic to put an obligation on him for convincing every single person for his identity. He is dealing with people who do not understand a bit and pretend to be maters of cryptography.
Possessing some silly sequence of symbols, a PK, just proves your possession of it and not your identity! Your assets, do not define your identity, you fools! And one's lack of access to some keys can not prove him/her not being somebody, you fools!
Satoshi Will destroy you all, I am sure about it, this so-called 'community' needed this shock and deserves a serious revision.
Cryptography is more and more changing to become a satanic, nihilistic religion. "You want prove your identity, do not promise, do not ask for trust, forget about showing your skills, memories, attitudes, prestige, resume ... just decipher some silly bits with your PKs."
I think this is the worst evil that human being has invented. It is worst than Uranium enrichment and nuclear bomb. It is worst than Wall Street and NSA even Worst than the invention of slavery.
Nothing is more threatening than a gigantic 'decentralized' chain of blocks of silly bits backed by a 'community' that defines our identity. And who invented this? Satoshi Nakamoto!
And Who deserves being humiliated, denied and sentenced to be/remain dead, more than any other person in the world? Satoshi Nakamoto!
I think what has made Wright such a fragile broken person is the realization of this truth. Dr. Craig Frankenstein Wright has a right to collapse: His creature denies him, sentences him to just disappear forever.
You're so gullible...
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You forgot to mention how he twice has presented "proof" of being Satoshi that was demonstrably faked and/or designed to mislead.
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If I were Satoshi I would have done a spend from the Genesis block and signed it "I am Craig Wright". Then I would go back into hiding forever. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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4- Using his reputation and background as a respected, honest , trust worthy person
Wait, which Craig Wright are you talking about? Even back in December it seemed likely there was some fraudulent information being presented: Wright’s company Cloudcroft had claimed to own two supercomputers, one of which it said was built by computer-maker SGI. But in an email to WIRED, (and as reported earlier by ZDNet) SGI says that “Cloudcroft has never been an SGI customer and SGI has no relationship with Cloudcroft CEO Craig Steven Wright.” The supercomputer-ranking organization Top500, which had listed two of Wright’s computers as some of the fastest in the world—one as high as 15th place earlier this year—declined to comment on how they’d verified Wright’s entries.
Wright had listed two PhDs on his since-deleted LinkedIn page, one from Charles Sturt University in Bathurst, Australia, in computer science. But that university now tells Forbes that it never gave Wright any PhDs, although it granted him three master’s degrees in related fields: Networking and Systems Administration, Management (Information Technology), and Information Systems Security.
An analysis of two PGP public keys attributed to Wright but also linked to Satoshi Nakamoto—one in our story and one in Gizmodo’s—show that they were likely created more recently than the documents in which we found them. Vice’s Motherboard site came to that conclusion based on the keys’ length and types of cipher suites they used, compared with another, known public key for Satoshi Nakamoto.
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May 06, 2016, 08:10:01 PM |
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If I were Satoshi I would have done a spend from the Genesis block and signed it "I am Craig Wright". Then I would go back into hiding forever. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The genesis block coins are not spendable. All he can do is sign a message with the genesis block key. It would be extremely entertaining to see such a signed message show up.
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May 06, 2016, 08:13:42 PM |
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I believe that he genuinely thought he could pull it off by carefully timing Gavin & co public announcement about SN true identity and his own blog post. He didn't realize his complicated cryptographic "proof" was so easy to debunk. Additionally he had to assume that the real SN wouldn't post any message disputing his identity.
I don't think Wright is so stupid to the point he didn't realize that his 'proofs' is not solid. He might be clown but he is not an idiot. Maybe there is something more behind this whole story? Maybe he was scared by someone to shut up? There is popular theory that Craig Wright and Dave Kleiman and other scientists were part of team 'Satoshi Nakamoto' and bitcoin is their creation.
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May 06, 2016, 08:17:54 PM |
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Well, glad to see someone tries to understand though fails.
Everything is simply information. How you choose to use it is entirely up to you.
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If you aren't the sole controller of your private keys, you don't have any bitcoins.
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