I think the Investor-Based Games category should be deleted

[ClashBit]

Hi,

I think the Bitcointalk Administration team should delete the "investor-based games" as this is preventing new users from coming to the Bitcoin world. People get scammed and they never come back.

99.9% of this games become a SCAM.

Why have this category on the forum?

I mean, who is going to "Double" your money for free?

I have been scammed with this type of games with more than $1500 (To be honest, that is not a big amount of money for me now a days so i'm ok, but jut saying) when I invested I knew that 90% I was going to be scammed but my businesses are doing well and the amount I was risking wasn't big to make an impact of my life so it was just a gamble. But I see a lot of people losing money they can't afford to loose and I think this category isn't valuable for this type of forum.

This is not a type of gambling in my opinion, it's just a "Scam".

Thanks!

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[james.lent]

Hi,

I think the Bitcointalk Administration team should delete the "investor-based games" as this is preventing new users from coming to the Bitcoin world. People get scammed and they never come back.

99% of this games become a SCAM.

Why have this category on the forum?

I mean, who is going to "Double" your money for free?

I have been scammed with this type of games with more than $1500 (To be honest, that is not a big amount of money for me now a days so i'm ok, but jut saying) when I invested I knew that 90% I was going to be scammed but my businesses are doing well and the amount I was risking wasn't big to make an impact of my life so it was just a gamble. But I see a lot of people losing money they can't afford to loose and I think this category isn't valuable for this type of forum.

This is not a type of gambling in my opinion, it's just a "Scam".

Thanks!

[ClashBit]

Hi,

I think the Bitcointalk Administration team should delete the "investor-based games" as this is preventing new users from coming to the Bitcoin world. People get scammed and they never come back.

99% of this games become a SCAM.

Why have this category on the forum?

I mean, who is going to "Double" your money for free?

I have been scammed with this type of games with more than $1500 (To be honest, that is not a big amount of money for me now a days so i'm ok, but jut saying) when I invested I knew that 90% I was going to be scammed but my businesses are doing well and the amount I was risking wasn't big to make an impact of my life so it was just a gamble. But I see a lot of people losing money they can't afford to loose and I think this category isn't valuable for this type of forum.

This is not a type of gambling in my opinion, it's just a "Scam".

Thanks!

I hope the administration team can read this and take action.

This category isn't helping the Bitcoin community, it's just becoming a paradise for scammers with their "programs"

[Slowturtleinc]

Or you could have searched the issue before posting and would have come across plenty of active threads in meta.
The need to nanny up the forum always alarms me because people that think this way always, always branch out farther!
You get a warning when you go in that section and after that you can not plead ignorance, its enough.

[ClashBit]

Or you could have searched the issue before posting and would have come across plenty of active threads in meta.
The need to nanny up the forum always alarms me because people that think this way always, always branch out farther!
You get a warning when you go in that section and after that you can not plead ignorance, its enough.

I understand this, you get a warning, fine....but, why do we need this category on the forum since it does not bring anything positive to the community?

[Steve_Tou]

They should just delete this trash category, just a playground for scammers.
Waiting for retard or scammers to say, 'HYIPs' will always live, regardless of - whether you like it or not. On the Internet, many forums devoted to this area - examples: MMG, DTM, TalkGold, Mmgp, Buzines) + over 300 forums blah blah blah bs.
Ya cause in those forums they are also full of scammers and shill, all the low pc or bought accounts posting shts.

Someone said before, if this investor board deleted, scammers will spam and bull their shit at other current board.
Let's be honest though, something has to get going to change thing.
They make the rule too, if scammers are going do that, just delete their and banned their accounts.
Pretty sure many eyes watching and will do the report.

[Lauda]

From what I understand (as I have not been paying attention back then), people have requested this section in the past and thus it was added. It was probably because the threads were flooding some other section and this is exactly what would happen if it was removed. The first step would be to ban Investor-Based games altogether. That way, no other section would be cluttered up with these threads.

They should just delete this trash category, just a playground for scammers.

That's essentially what it is. A playground for scammers and signature spammers.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I don't ever go in there, I'm not sure it should be deleted but if you don't like it OP just don't go in there.

[vodaljepa]

I don't ever go in there, I'm not sure it should be deleted but if you don't like it OP just don't go in there.

Exactly my thought as well

[krunox123]

They make the rule too, if scammers are going do that, just delete their and banned their accounts.

Then, the moderators will start banning people based on biased opinions.
You should have just ignore the Investor-based games section, IMO.

[Lauda]

Then, the moderators will start banning people based on biased opinions.

Not necessarily, but that is indeed a possibility and thus scams are not moderated.

You should have just ignore the Investor-based games section, IMO.

Ignoring the problem does not make it go away (applies also to signature spammers).

[alani123]

It was requested as a containment board and it serves its purpose as a containment board well. Say what you want about such schemes being unethical, but bitcoin's nature attracts them. This forum would either have to ban discussion of such schemes all together (which would be very illiberal) or contain them in a special section. If you don't like it, you can just ignore the subforum and forget about it. There's people who want to participate there, why take that away from them? Besides, now with ethereum you can create ever-running, trustless and decentralized ponzi schemes.  

[Jet Cash]

Well one thing that could be done would be to remove posting there from the activity count. That was posters would stay as newbies unless they contributed to the real Bitcoin boards.

[Monnt]

It's a shitfest, that board. I think it was a mistake adding it, or more probably that the rules need to be clearer/fixed. No ponzis, only actual investments. Not games per se, but things like:

- Investing in companies that have to be verified or are recognized IRL
- Investing in people/gamblers (?)
- Investing proxies

[Justin00]

Investor-Based Games are as a knife: you could use a knife for eat o you coul use it for kill. Is important that people know the risk of this kind of games.

[Lauda]

Investor-Based Games are as a knife: you could use a knife for eat o you coul use it for kill. Is important that people know the risk of this kind of games.

Following your analogy: Exactly how many people have to cut themselves before we disallow knives (if ever)?

Well one thing that could be done would be to remove posting there from the activity count. That was posters would stay as newbies unless they contributed to the real Bitcoin boards.

There was a thread about something of that type created by Theymos, but I don't think it has been 'activated' yet.

It's a shitfest, that board.

It is practically useless. The only time that I go there is when I'm handling some report.

[Slark]

Do you think that by deleting Investor Based Games SubBoard suddenly there won't be any HYIP or Ponzi or other scammy schemes on bitcointalk?
Because if you do it is just totally wrong and flawed logic you are representing. For now all useless and suspicious activities are contained inside that subboard - deletion only make it spread on other sections.
Do you really want that?

[vodaljepa]

Do you think that by deleting Investor Based Games SubBoard suddenly there won't be any HYIP or Ponzi or other scammy schemes on bitcointalk?
Because if you do it is just totally wrong and flawed logic you are representing. For now all useless and suspicious activities are contained inside that subboard - deletion only make it spread on other sections.
Do you really want that?

Exactly and then more work for mods to ban users, clean up all of those unwanted topics, just leave them and let them have there little section, anyways most of them get red trust instantly

[Lauda]

Do you think that by deleting Investor Based Games SubBoard suddenly there won't be any HYIP or Ponzi or other scammy schemes on bitcointalk?
Do you really want that?

If you had read the previous posts (which you didn't), you would have seen that I've already covered that:

The first step would be to ban Investor-Based games altogether. That way, no other section would be cluttered up with these threads.

Exactly and then more work for mods to ban users, clean up all of those unwanted topics, just leave them and let them have there little section, anyways most of them get red trust instantly

Again, ignoring problems is not the right answer.

[Keyser Soze]

Oh how people forget... Prior to that section all of those posts were flooding the main gambling section. The admins do not moderate scams, so those types of posts won't be deleted. Having them all in their own section is better than having them show up elsewhere.

[ravens]

From what I understand (as I have not been paying attention back then), people have requested this section in the past and thus it was added. It was probably because the threads were flooding some other section and this is exactly what would happen if it was removed. The first step would be to ban Investor-Based games altogether. That way, no other section would be cluttered up with these threads.

They should just delete this trash category, just a playground for scammers.

That's essentially what it is. A playground for scammers and signature spammers.

I agree with you, is just that the problem with this statement is that usually investor-based games posts are usually not counted. Even if they are, depending on the post, they'd most likely get a negative trust and every known sig campaign don't allow negative trusted users.

[Your Point Is Invalid]

Its a gamble, if you get in early enough, you may get paid

We warn people about the section, some people invest for fun, we cant decide how people use their money

[Baby Rage]

I use it for amusement. its funny to see all this reasonably well written scam attempts 

[ClashBit]

Ok it seems like people like to see scams and non-constructive threads in this forum

[Your Point Is Invalid]

Ok it seems like people like to see scams and non-constructive threads in this forum

Only idiots fall for them, if you fall for one, you deserve to