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April 13, 2018, 12:27:04 PM
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It is interesting, that my complaints over here are completely ignored by the leonardo/margin team.

That's very sad .. i'm actually considering to look for my rights as a legal customer from Germany/EU to see if i might have some rights to get the product _as advertised_ or maybe rectification from Margin UG according to the german Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch (civil code), §446, §434 Abs. 1 S. 1 BGB and so on.

I'm really pissed now. I paid nearly 200 bucks for a software which is now _in fact_ deprecated and where i had no real support from the start on.

I'm still missing the following things:

leonArdo @ Bittrex: I have no information on why i'm unable to see trades and unable to set up new transactions - at all.

leonArdo on a clean Ubuntu 16.04 LTS install: I'm still missing notification sounds!

leonArdo: Buy and Sell Margins on the margin maker gui still move as they like if one tries to set them up by point and click from _within the gui_.

leonArdo: The program slows down to a point where changing a single trade/transaction from within the GUI may take _up to several minutes_ after a distinct runtime (in my case, after the program has more than 24~36hrs runtime).

There are several more quirks and bugs, it's a shame that a user has to track these down _ON HIS OWN_ to get them fixed.

Is it necessary to get a lawyer to get this stuff fixed?

Hacky

Edit: Just to be on the safe side and to be sure, i tested again to use Bittrex with my license.
Still no change at all. I can't see any of my past trades and i can not set up _any new transaction_.

Das Produkt reift beim Kunden. Es ist eine Sauerei, dass man für eine Beta-Version überhaupt Geld verlangen darf. Der Umgang mit den alten Leonardo Kunden ist schon sensationell!

Wir vertreiben ein Produkt mit dem die meisten schnell mehr verdienen als es kostet. Konkurrenzprodukte waren sehr viel teurer.
Das Produkt ist weiterhin nutzbar und wir arbeiten zudem an einem einem weiteren Release das noch eine Liste von Bugs fixt. Desweiteren sind weitere 6 Monate für lau und danach ist es mit 50% discount Euro im Monat zu haben. Die meisten zahlen vermutlich ein vielfaches mehr allein an trading fees. Und das für ein professionelles Trading-Werkzeug. Die Alternative wäre gewesen den Laden dicht zu machen, das hätte auch keinem geholfen.
Weitere Vorschläge gerne via pm oder im persönlichen Gespräch. Aber wir haben nach einer Alternative gesucht die es uns ermoeglicht weiter an margin zu arbeiten und gleichzeitig den bisherigen Kunden entgegen zu kommen.



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April 13, 2018, 05:37:29 PM
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Tips for Bollinger Band users:
 
Time to increment your trades and make other alterations to your bots while waiting for the next dip for the buys. [don't forget to save]

In my opinion unless the market is absolutely down and flat you can run at least 20% more bots than you have leveraged satoshi. An example would be if you can afford 10 trades at $10 and you have $100 USD, provided you have the memory and it is not more than the recommended number of bots for that exchange you should safely be able to run 12 bots to further leverage your satoshi.

A question came up last week, some were not aware of the new graph. Click that symbol on the lower right just to the side of margin to see how things are progressing. It should pop up a window with your current status.


As always when trading keep your priorities straight!  Grin

Rent
Food
Dog
Margin.de
Binance
Bittrex
Poloniex
Kraken
Car
Attorney
Hunting License
Utilities
Wife

Now you got it!  Wink








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April 13, 2018, 09:05:04 PM
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Been having issues with binance api, tried uninstalling and reinstalling, the issue i get is listed on the FAQ, went through the troubleshooting and still no good....

Whats best operating system for compatibility with margin?

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April 14, 2018, 03:24:31 AM
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Been having issues with binance api, tried uninstalling and reinstalling, the issue i get is listed on the FAQ, went through the troubleshooting and still no good....

Whats best operating system for compatibility with margin?
Support may have some numbers to wrap around that. What you are asking is tantamount to asking which is the best ice cream flavor? Then again in a broad spectrum install base it sometimes boils down to user skills, Windows users know how to reboot, Mac folks will open a shell and tinker with configs, Linux users (I fall into this category) will craft solutions to problems that may not exist.

I can speak of my experience, I used a Linux laptop for two weeks before moving to a VPS (I've upgraded 3 times). Have been on this VPS for 3 months now. All running Xubuntu or more specifically headless Ubuntu 16.04 with XFCE4. The only API problems I experienced were when it  was running on the laptop (bandwidth issues) and in January when Bittrex was playing games with the API, they were actually able to crash me twice. I have run week long DEMO testing and live fire testing over a period of weeks on four different exchanges including Binance with no API issues I recall. From time to time I fire up a daily build of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS from February just to make sure the current releases of margin still run on the upcoming LTS release later this month, they do..

I am still running on the first release of margin 4.0.0 before 1.0.0, this up time is not anywhere close to my previous record.


Linux isn't "the" solution just a solution.

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April 16, 2018, 08:27:17 PM
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Eliminate self doubt! Don't let the talking heads fool you for even a moment.

I sure hope this article brightens your day. Germany's Börse Stuttgart is adding crypto and Barclay's of England after last weeks tirade of the most heinous and vindictive nature insulting everyone and anyone whom ever contemplated cryptocurrency trading has done a 180 inside of a week, and has taken on Coinbase as a partner no-less!   Shocked

ref.
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/borse-stuttgart-barclays-bank-latest-institutions-go-crypto/

Have a great week!  Grin


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April 17, 2018, 09:52:48 PM
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I’m running my leonArdo Marginmaker on a Raspberry, together with Pi-Hole. What I see is that the bot connects multiple times a minute to google.com, but also api.kraken.com, even if I don’t use Kraken. Can someone explain why?

Thank you!
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April 18, 2018, 01:25:33 PM
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no, i didn't make any profit as i just downloaded it to try a MACD backtest on 2H candles
and i just found myselft in a uncofonfortable view, and no 2H, and no MACD, and no Backtest,  in the demo version.

everytime i see something that looks odd on user interfaces happens to be programmed with Qt,
i still remember when i was trying to use a program called aMSN, i was so mad on its damn interface and slowness that i write them to ask
why the hell that happens, and they told me its because of Qt, thats the first time i ever heard on that name.
it kinda remembers me of JAVA, the super laggy programing lang i hated the most, Both are multiplatform.
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April 19, 2018, 04:41:36 AM
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Super Cruxio, so you shit in a forum, no decent error message, no screenshots, no question.

Who else would like to answer you?
Would you answer?
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April 19, 2018, 12:29:17 PM
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Hey everyone,

We are really excited to give you a sneak preview of upcoming drawing tools in margin

Check out this short preview video:
Drawing tools preview Video



All the best,
The margin Team



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April 19, 2018, 03:00:02 PM
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Are you aware of the spamming related to a supposed promotion posing as "margin bot"?

The spammers are using your intellectual property, including your name and logo as well as a 1 to 1 copy of margin.de in a different domain. I don't know if those operations are linked to the original service (the one here) but they're using a domain registered on 2018-04-05 which I couldn't find to have any connection to the legitimate service here. Could probably be an attempt to get users to download malicious software.

Here's my documentation of this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311619

If this is a scam you should take appropriate action as the original holders of the intellectual property.




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April 19, 2018, 03:38:13 PM
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Hey everyone,

We are really excited to give you a sneak preview of upcoming drawing tools in margin

Check out this short preview video:
Drawing tools preview Video



All the best,
The margin Team


The video looks truly awesome. In my opinion Fibonacci is the closest we will ever come to single source predictive software.

A great article to get people up to speed to what this is about.
https://www.crypto-news.net/fibonacci-sequence/

From the article:
"The truth is that nobody really knows why the Golden Ratio appears in trading charts, in the size of our hands, in the way we build our cities and make our art. It’s literally everywhere and all evidence suggests that people are using it subconsciously for the most part." -Very thought inspiring, there is so much more to be gleaned here if one wishes to go down the rabbit hole, it is very enlightening.

Having a great day, hope you are too!  Grin

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Are you aware of the spamming related to a supposed promotion posing as "margin bot"?

The spammers are using your intellectual property, including your name and logo as well as a 1 to 1 copy of margin.de in a different domain. I don't know if those operations are linked to the original service (the one here) but they're using a domain registered on 2018-04-05 which I couldn't find to have any connection to the legitimate service here. Could probably be an attempt to get users to download malicious software.

Here's my documentation of this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3311619

If this is a scam you should take appropriate action as the original holders of the intellectual property.



Thanks for reporting this! We reported them to the moderators. We would appreciate if other would, too!

All the best,

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Merging functionality with astonishing visuals: that's Margin. When the market isn't favorable to bots, I do manual trading using these awesome features (the multiple indicators, candle sizes quick switch, market depth etc.). The drawing tools with Fibonacci will add a great value to the app. Looking forward for the release!
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A great article to get people up to speed to what this is about.
https://www.crypto-news.net/fibonacci-sequence/

From the article:
"The truth is that nobody really knows why the Golden Ratio appears in trading charts, in the size of our hands, in the way we build our cities and make our art. It’s literally everywhere and all evidence suggests that people are using it subconsciously for the most part." -Very thought inspiring, there is so much more to be gleaned here if one wishes to go down the rabbit hole, it is very enlightening.

Having a great day, hope you are too!  Grin

Hey that's a very interesting article, thanks for sharing! By the way, you always share some interesting things here on the forum; thanks for that too. Have a good day!
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April 20, 2018, 09:15:39 AM
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Say no to margin.
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April 21, 2018, 12:54:18 AM
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nobody gives a fk about drawing tools if they cant be used as bot conditions

maybe try work on getting it to run for more than 24 hours without crashing
or at least a button to resume all bots after a crash
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April 21, 2018, 03:24:31 AM
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nobody gives a fk about drawing tools if they cant be used as bot conditions

Bollinger Bands were indicators before they were bots, maybe the same will hold true for other tools.

maybe try work on getting it to run for more than 24 hours without crashing
or at least a button to resume all bots after a crash

You should discuss your crashing issue with support, it may be your computer, operating system or Internet connection. They are friendly and  very helpful.


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April 21, 2018, 04:39:50 PM
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Hey Everyone,

I purchased Margin several weeks ago.  I ran the Bollinger Band bot for a while and was able to make some profit, about 2%/day at first, using some slightly adjusted Bollinger Band settings and a .25% minimum gain, but no stop-loss.  I started running into an issue, though.  Every now and then a coin pair would keep dropping in value after the bot bought and it wouldn't come back up for several days or even weeks (some still haven't).  It was a little concerning at first, but after a while it started accumulating to the point where almost all my money was held up in these unfinished trades because the value hadn't come back up.  This decreased my daily profit and eventually got to the point where I had almost no available money to trade with.

So, I stopped trading for a while and just ran tests.  Since Margin doesn't have a backtest feature (which would be awesome...hint, hint), I set up a few computers with the demo running trying different settings (bollinger band levels, min effective gains, stop-loss, etc.).  I've been able to increase the daily profit to 3-4% (at least in the tests) (40/40 bollinger bands and 1% min eff gain), but I haven't been able to find a solution to these unfinished trades.  Automatic stop-losses almost always result in daily losses instead of profits.

Has anyone else run into this?  What strategies have you implemented to keep your money from getting tied up waiting for them to become profitable trades?

I'm at a loss at this point.

Thanks!
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Hey Everyone,

I purchased Margin several weeks ago.  I ran the Bollinger Band bot for a while and was able to make some profit, about 2%/day at first, using some slightly adjusted Bollinger Band settings and a .25% minimum gain, but no stop-loss.  I started running into an issue, though.  Every now and then a coin pair would keep dropping in value after the bot bought and it wouldn't come back up for several days or even weeks (some still haven't).  It was a little concerning at first, but after a while it started accumulating to the point where almost all my money was held up in these unfinished trades because the value hadn't come back up.  This decreased my daily profit and eventually got to the point where I had almost no available money to trade with.

So, I stopped trading for a while and just ran tests.  Since Margin doesn't have a backtest feature (which would be awesome...hint, hint), I set up a few computers with the demo running trying different settings (bollinger band levels, min effective gains, stop-loss, etc.).  I've been able to increase the daily profit to 3-4% (at least in the tests) (40/40 bollinger bands and 1% min eff gain), but I haven't been able to find a solution to these unfinished trades.  Automatic stop-losses almost always result in daily losses instead of profits.

Has anyone else run into this?  What strategies have you implemented to keep your money from getting tied up waiting for them to become profitable trades?

I'm at a loss at this point.

Thanks!
Yes, I think most of us have run into this. This morning's 8 AM across the board correction was pretty awful for me and I am straining to stay in the right frame of mind, your timing was very good, I think writing about it will help ease my pain.

I went through everything and moved the stop loss from 6% to 8%. The reason for the problem to begin with is also a good thing.. n00bs. If it were not for the fresh blood the market would stagnate. What we are seeing is exactly what happened in November and December of last year.

Your stop loss size should reflect the size of the coin you are trading, the smaller the coin the more volatility. At present I am going through one of those phases where I am not trading anything larger than. 0.00009999, so my stop loss needs to be bigger. Previous to this week a 6% stop loss would handle 95% of my trading, now with this craziness, 8% will handle maybe 60-70% of the market conditions that I trade in. I hope this is good enough.

I had the same trouble as you, a slight market shift and a coin pair drops 14% no big deal, this is the wild west after all, ..but then it stays there for days and weeks. Screw it take your freaking losses, my pairs normally hit every 8-36 hours if I leave it hanging for 6 days that is a potential for how many trades?

A couple of other things. If you set your stop loss huge, they will trigger less frequently but there will be larger losses and it will happen! The bot has no freaking idea the coin pair is trading at a 3 month high and just keeps going, eventually (at least once) the pair will crash and potentially double what your stop loss is set at so if you make too much allowance be prepared.

Look at this article. Internalize it! Allow your mind to hover over each percent descending until your stomach roils, that or above is your tolerance level for losses do not exceed them or you will feel the same thing over and over each time your stop loss triggers.
https://www.investors.com/how-to-invest/investors-corner/still-the-no-1-rule-for-stock-investors-always-cut-your-losses-short/
(there are other more gradient tables which I prefer, it is the best I could do on short notice that drives home the point)

Dissolve emotional ties with all coin pairs, some are performant only because of the people trading them. Ditch the bad ones or the ones with too much noise around them, this week I dumped XVG and NCASH and felt nothing but profound relief.

Yeah, lesterj  we all bleed from the same things in different ways, there is no shortcut. Use the demo, that is a good move, I do that too when trying to work something out. Do your math, whatever is the most sustainable approach will probably be the best for you, because like in poker the last one at the table goes home with the most coins.

I do believe I feel better already, STORM just handed me a very unexpected 12.6% gain and it is time for lunch. Yea!  Grin




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April 21, 2018, 07:13:32 PM
 #4300

nobody gives a fk about drawing tools if they cant be used as bot conditions

maybe try work on getting it to run for more than 24 hours without crashing
or at least a button to resume all bots after a crash



I'm up for that!
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