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..... Pluto is not a planet simply because there are at least 4 other bodies rather identical to it just next to Pluto. If Pluto is a planet then so are they...
No, they're not, because Pluto is priveliged.
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May 20, 2016, 08:48:12 PM |
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If the universe is made out of the same stuff everywhere and nature hates to waste energy to build new stuff, could the humanoid shape be the most logical path for an intelligent life form ready for space exploration?
NO. Because as we all know, our big brains stem from the fact we have opposing thumbs and fingers. That is, unless you choose to be a Denier of these established scientific factoids. Just as the grand planet Pluto is now only a Plutoid, by virtue of a consensus of scientific opinion, you must bow down to factoids such as the thumb and finger oppositional premise of the big brain theory, and ignore contrary evidence such as the infinite number of gradations of stupidity. Those only confirm the hypothesis, as creatures which were more stupid would have fewer possible levels of stupidity. Thus in the case of Hillary, it's "Bill or No Bill?" asked from one side of the bed to Huma, on the other side. Now, if the oppositional thumb merits discussion, we have to acknowledge that beings, creatures or slimeballs with a plethora of said oppositional apparatus would be greater in intelligence as follows. n = number of oppositional thumb/finger pairs t = time c = clusterfuck factor bb = degree to which brain is high or low density in bricklike nature F = unknown factor, plugged into make the results agree with pre determined intent Smartness = n^(t*(-c + -bb + F) Obviously... LOL, everytime I read one of your post I discover a new way to see things in an absurd and far too simplified way. So you don't agree on the fact that Pluto is not a planet? Tell us how you know things better than all scientists. After proving how you're better than any meteorologist and climatologists I bet you're ready to show us how good of an astronaum you are xD Spendulus, the great scientist! Ah..... I SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED... A strong defense of the decision that Pluto is only a "PLutoid object," since the IAU, which has the sole authority to name planets in it's own mind, is based in Paris, France, and you.... Fuck no I don't agree with this BS. Hey, Pluto earned it's right to be a planet. It's your French buddies who think they have the right to name things who are Plutoids. Besides, "Plutoid" is dumber than a sack of bricks. Well I didn't know it was based in Paris but it doesn't matter it's an international consortium. The decision to declassify it was made after an international consortium precised the definition of the word planet. A planet: Astronomers of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) voted on and passed the first scientific definition of a planet in August 2006. According to this new definition, an object must meet three criteria in order to be classified as a planet. First, it must orbit the Sun. Second, it must be big enough for gravity to squash it into a round ball. And third, it must have cleared other objects out of the way in its orbital neighborhood. It is not the case of Pluto You want Pluto to be classified as a planet? As you wish, but then you would have not nine but around 51 planets. Because any object orbiting the sun and massive enough would be called a planet. And by the way, it's not a Plutoid, it's a dwarf planet.
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May 20, 2016, 08:48:50 PM |
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..... Pluto is not a planet simply because there are at least 4 other bodies rather identical to it just next to Pluto. If Pluto is a planet then so are they...
No, they're not, because Pluto is priveliged. And why is it privileged? Because we discovered it first? That's how you do science? XD
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May 20, 2016, 11:20:27 PM |
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..... Pluto is not a planet simply because there are at least 4 other bodies rather identical to it just next to Pluto. If Pluto is a planet then so are they...
No, they're not, because Pluto is priveliged. And why is it privileged? Because we discovered it first? That's how you do science? XD Yep. Sure, why not? And it's a Plutoid. And don't claim you don't know we are talking Paris here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutoid
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May 21, 2016, 08:13:09 AM |
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..... Pluto is not a planet simply because there are at least 4 other bodies rather identical to it just next to Pluto. If Pluto is a planet then so are they...
No, they're not, because Pluto is priveliged. And why is it privileged? Because we discovered it first? That's how you do science? XD Yep. Sure, why not? And it's a Plutoid. And don't claim you don't know we are talking Paris here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlutoidBELIEVE whatever you want I didn't know it. And again it doesn't matter because the definition was made by an international consortium, not by Paris scientists. Why not? Are you totally dumb or do you willingly say stupid things? Well maybe because that's not how science work.. you can't say "okay this object doesn't fit the definition but we're going to call that a planet because you know I like the guy who discovered it so let's give it the planet title even if it doesn't suit the definition we made" Not really surprising you find yourself so good at understanding things if you don't care about definitions xD Might explain why you're always saying shit though ^^
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May 21, 2016, 08:14:53 AM |
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And Plutoid are just a sub category of dwarf planets! What do you find so disturbing about it?
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May 21, 2016, 12:50:23 PM |
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And Plutoid are just a sub category of dwarf planets! What do you find so disturbing about it?
Lol, I am just having fun ribbing you about it because it is so Parisian.
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May 21, 2016, 11:40:18 PM |
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Here is how splendulus "science" works. Could it explains that most of his opinions smell like shit? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh and I know it's hard to imagine but not all French are parisian ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 22, 2016, 07:38:25 AM |
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The US space agency has just announced the discovery of the new "exoplanets" which are considered as similar to Earth due to their distance from the star they orbit. Timothy Morton, associate research scholar at Princeton University in New Jersey, said: "We have discovered 1,284 new planets - the most explanets ever announced at one time." It more than doubles the previous amount of exoplanets found by the Kepler Telescope, taking the total number to 2,325. It comes after NASA said they now also believe every star in space has at least one planet orbiting it, further increasing the chance of life evolving somewhere. Paul Hertz, Astrophysics Division director at NASA Headquarters in Washington, said: "The Kepler specialist telescope is the first capable of detecting call rocky planets in the habitable zone of their parent star. "When launched we did not know if exoplanets or rocky exoplanets were rare and we now know they are extremely common and most stars have at least one planet orbiting. "Our research is on just a fraction of possible exoplanets and knowing this is the first step in answering the question if we are alone in the universe." Among the new discoveries are also a further 100 grade A rocky exoplanets which are the most likely for life to begin just like Earth. And of these 24 were found to be of a similar size to Earth and distance from their stars in the so-called Goldilocks habitable zone, making them the most likelyy candidates for life. Combined with 12 already found by Kepler researchers, there are now 36 of the Earth-like planets and a further 12 possible ones awaiting verification. It was previously believed that many stars were out there alone, meaning the odds of other Earth-like planets with the right conditions for life to start are much higher than ever believed. The information has come from astronomers researching swathes of data from the Kepler Telescope mission. Initially more than 4,600 possible exoplanets were found and the 2,325 are those which have now been confirmed as definite exoplanets. NASA made the major announcement about the latest findings from the Kepler research at a press conference which started at 6pm. A NASA spokesman said: "When Kepler was launched in March 2009, scientists did not know how common planets were outside our solar system. "Thanks to Kepler’s treasure trove of discoveries, astronomers now believe there may be at least one planet orbiting every star in the sky." Kepler completed its prime mission in 2012, and collected data for an additional year in an extended mission. In 2014, the spacecraft began a new extended mission called K2. K2 continues the search for exoplanets while introducing new research opportunities to study young stars, supernovae and other cosmic phenomena. http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/668945/NASA-Chance-of-life-being-out-there-boosted-as-every-star-has-at-least-one-planet-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Somewhere, an alien is wondering what we are up to... oh crap! 1,200 is big amount of planests,i never hear about this before,i just notice that only one or two planests like mars that can used as life for human,but now NASA found 1,200 ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) its time to move to another planet?leave our beloved earth?
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May 22, 2016, 01:15:14 PM |
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Here is how splendulus "science" works. Could it explains that most of his opinions smell like shit? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh and I know it's hard to imagine but not all French are parisian ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) May be but only a Parisian faux intellectual could even dream of the word... "Plutoid."
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May 22, 2016, 05:38:01 PM |
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Here is how splendulus "science" works. Could it explains that most of his opinions smell like shit? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh and I know it's hard to imagine but not all French are parisian ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) May be but only a Parisian faux intellectual could even dream of the word... "Plutoid." Oh another non argument. Seems like you got only that kind of reasoning though ; )
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May 22, 2016, 07:05:23 PM |
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Here is how splendulus "science" works. Could it explains that most of his opinions smell like shit? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Oh and I know it's hard to imagine but not all French are parisian ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) May be but only a Parisian faux intellectual could even dream of the word... "Plutoid." Oh another non argument. Seems like you got only that kind of reasoning though ; ) What, can't take a joke? Think about it. There isn't even any "science" to naming stuff. That's what the IAU does.
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May 23, 2016, 12:30:31 AM |
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Theres a lot of new planet discovered but the big problem is how can we go there. We dont have the equipment that can travel extremely fast.
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May 23, 2016, 12:42:15 AM |
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Theres a lot of new planet discovered but the big problem is how can we go there. We dont have the equipment that can travel extremely fast.
They are still working on why the EmDrive is even possible. Once they do, and making them as cheap as a Vespa, the cosmos will shrink overnight...
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May 23, 2016, 12:49:56 AM |
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Theres a lot of new planet discovered but the big problem is how can we go there. We dont have the equipment that can travel extremely fast.
They are still working on why the EmDrive is even possible. Once they do, and making them as cheap as a Vespa, the cosmos will shrink overnight... Not really. It's still a 20 year trip to nearby stars, and when the guys return home, 500 years or so will have passed. EM doesn't solve the speed of light limit. What we need to do is link into those galactic routers, and maybe trade beer recipes for warp drive formulas.
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May 23, 2016, 01:34:43 AM |
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Theres a lot of new planet discovered but the big problem is how can we go there. We dont have the equipment that can travel extremely fast.
They are still working on why the EmDrive is even possible. Once they do, and making them as cheap as a Vespa, the cosmos will shrink overnight... Not really. It's still a 20 year trip to nearby stars, and when the guys return home, 500 years or so will have passed. EM doesn't solve the speed of light limit. What we need to do is link into those galactic routers, and maybe trade beer recipes for warp drive formulas. The EmDrive doesn't violate any laws and you will get older if you return home. The same amazing progress in propulsion is happening in life extension science. That is why I said once the engine is as compact cheap and plentiful as a vespa, living, 500 years would be normal. If you live 80 years, the cosmos is vast. If you live 10000 years and you can reach the nearest star in 20, then the cosmos would have shrunk.
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May 23, 2016, 01:40:49 AM |
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Theres a lot of new planet discovered but the big problem is how can we go there. We dont have the equipment that can travel extremely fast.
They are still working on why the EmDrive is even possible. Once they do, and making them as cheap as a Vespa, the cosmos will shrink overnight... Not really. It's still a 20 year trip to nearby stars, and when the guys return home, 500 years or so will have passed. EM doesn't solve the speed of light limit. What we need to do is link into those galactic routers, and maybe trade beer recipes for warp drive formulas. The EmDrive doesn't violate any laws and you will get older if you return home. The same amazing progress in propulsion is happening in life extension science. That is why I said once the engine is as compact cheap and plentiful as a vespa, living, 500 years would be normal. If you live 80 years, the cosmos is vast. If you live 10000 years and you can reach the nearest star in 20, then the cosmos would have shrunk. That sounds very, very 1980s-ish. Consider that today, because we have high speed Internet in our homes, we travel much less than in the past. We use videochat, instead of getting on a plane to go to a meeting. We turn on the big screen to streaming media, instead of going to the theater. Etc. This is IMHO much more true of space travel. We send truly amazing probes out in our solar system, many places which take 20 years to get to. Robotic interplanetary probes which transmit data back in a hundred years, those would only be an extension of our current probes. But even then there are serious problems. We need to hack that galactic router.
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May 23, 2016, 03:24:30 AM |
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Theres a lot of new planet discovered but the big problem is how can we go there. We dont have the equipment that can travel extremely fast.
They are still working on why the EmDrive is even possible. Once they do, and making them as cheap as a Vespa, the cosmos will shrink overnight... Not really. It's still a 20 year trip to nearby stars, and when the guys return home, 500 years or so will have passed. EM doesn't solve the speed of light limit. What we need to do is link into those galactic routers, and maybe trade beer recipes for warp drive formulas. The EmDrive doesn't violate any laws and you will get older if you return home. The same amazing progress in propulsion is happening in life extension science. That is why I said once the engine is as compact cheap and plentiful as a vespa, living, 500 years would be normal. If you live 80 years, the cosmos is vast. If you live 10000 years and you can reach the nearest star in 20, then the cosmos would have shrunk. That sounds very, very 1980s-ish. Consider that today, because we have high speed Internet in our homes, we travel much less than in the past. We use videochat, instead of getting on a plane to go to a meeting. We turn on the big screen to streaming media, instead of going to the theater. Etc. This is IMHO much more true of space travel. We send truly amazing probes out in our solar system, many places which take 20 years to get to. Robotic interplanetary probes which transmit data back in a hundred years, those would only be an extension of our current probes. But even then there are serious problems. We need to hack that galactic router. It does sound 1980s-ish because it is hard to imagine traveling without the need of a spaceship. Maybe we won't need any vehicles if we can convert ourselves into pure data, each probes sent being a galactic network of bridged routers. Unless we can remotely feel, smell, taste, humans will always want to travel and be "there". I believe it is part of our nature.
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May 23, 2016, 03:42:23 AM |
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.... It does sound 1980s-ish because it is hard to imagine traveling without the need of a spaceship. Maybe we won't need any vehicles if we can convert ourselves into pure data, each probes sent being a galactic network of bridged routers. Unless we can remotely feel, smell, taste, humans will always want to travel and be "there". I believe it is part of our nature.
Sure, but reality has zoomed past imagination. That's what happens with exponential technological change. Reality is that NOW solar system exploration is by our extended eyes and hands, our tools that do remote sensing without the need for moving live meat around in cans. The 5-40 year long trips exist right now, right here. Those are lengths of time to go round trip from Earth to various destinations in this solar system.
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May 23, 2016, 04:00:59 AM |
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.... It does sound 1980s-ish because it is hard to imagine traveling without the need of a spaceship. Maybe we won't need any vehicles if we can convert ourselves into pure data, each probes sent being a galactic network of bridged routers. Unless we can remotely feel, smell, taste, humans will always want to travel and be "there". I believe it is part of our nature.
Sure, but reality has zoomed past imagination. That's what happens with exponential technological change. Reality is that NOW solar system exploration is by our extended eyes and hands, our tools that do remote sensing without the need for moving live meat around in cans. The 5-40 year long trips exist right now, right here. Those are lengths of time to go round trip from Earth to various destinations in this solar system. That is why we are irrational creatures. Lots of us will still do the trip because it is impractical to move live meat around in cans.
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