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May 12, 2016, 09:26:32 AM
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To be honest I don't really understand what he is saying in that reply.

But just in case someone doesn't understand it. These are the hashes:

Your siteArchived site
8eaf55f805d3d051dfc5151073ac9efd
3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990
f43d368fb63b177a65fb65c511d74962
a85492b89a34cfd7dbedc7f8c91c16e1
4dfd43d2da6e1a0b65802721a6f3babf     
b9119f5f3fbdfdccc1ac3c5f22361626     
eb5c6ed29f8559b68bf4aa75adb13560     
896ae32161795e8901d72977d1eb9e71
9e88dfe532d59e30b9b78d845b4c0e59  
87b1dd267ff439349095cc9c961e3cd6
8eaf55f805d3d051dfc5151073ac9efd
fe3b7dee0cf7cb7ea552995675306786     
f43d368fb63b177a65fb65c511d74962     
a85492b89a34cfd7dbedc7f8c91c16e1     
4dfd43d2da6e1a0b65802721a6f3babf     
b9119f5f3fbdfdccc1ac3c5f22361626     
eb5c6ed29f8559b68bf4aa75adb13560
896ae32161795e8901d72977d1eb9e71     
9e88dfe532d59e30b9b78d845b4c0e59     
87b1dd267ff439349095cc9c961e3cd6

Clearly 1 hash was changed. The archived site is on the well-known site archive.org, which is not a screenshot and cannot be "photoshopped". Also some of the unused hashes are still the same today so that "day changed" BS doesn't make sense either.

what?

where archived another day?

before bet hash been 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990.

he not checked md5 hash before.

this not proof!
You try to suggest that you change the hashes every day or something. But the unused future hashes are the same currently on your site and on the archived site, therefore the day is not relevant at all.




Anyway, not wasting any more time on this. Your site is an obvious scam and I assume everyone is smart enough to figure that out now.

we not change md5 hash.. show please screenshot 10 may or 9 may.

where screenshot of another day?
is not it strange?

is not proof,

you can check it.
make bet and check.
if you lose i refund bet to you.

please check.
this is not scam
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May 12, 2016, 09:28:34 AM
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Lol, looks like someone doesn't know what an archived site is. Accusing OP of photoshopping the hashes! Roll Eyes
Also the way he got butthurt simply proves his intention.

Thanks rambeazle for bringing this up.
This kind of behavior will often be looked over if you hadn't surfaced it.

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May 12, 2016, 09:29:08 AM
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Your site is an obvious scam and I assume everyone is smart enough to figure that out now.

/thread.

So Rollincoin, will you pay me the 1btc bounty that you offered if I proved you scammed me?

Lol, looks like someone doesn't know what an archived site is. Accusing OP of photoshopping the hashes! Roll Eyes
Also the way he got butthurt simply proves his intention.

Thanks rambeazle for bringing this up.
This kind of behavior will often be looked over if you hadn't surfaced it.

No problem. The fact that he can throw away his shitty site now is all the satisfaction I need. Disgusting thief. I will always try my best to fight against people like him. It is a pity that his kind is associated with bitcoin.
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May 12, 2016, 09:31:37 AM
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Your site is an obvious scam and I assume everyone is smart enough to figure that out now.

/thread.

So Rollincoin, will you pay me the 1btc bounty that you offered if I proved you scammed me?

Lol, looks like someone doesn't know what an archived site is. Accusing OP of photoshopping the hashes! Roll Eyes
Also the way he got butthurt simply proves his intention.

Thanks rambeazle for bringing this up.
This kind of behavior will often be looked over if you hadn't surfaced it.

No problem. The fact that he can throw away his shitty site now is all the satisfaction I need. Disgusting thief.

we not change md5 hash.. show please screenshot 10 may or 9 may.

where screenshot of another day?
is not it strange?

is not proof,

you can check it.
make bet and check.
if you lose i refund bet to you.

please check.

and make video!
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May 12, 2016, 09:33:50 AM
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Your site is an obvious scam and I assume everyone is smart enough to figure that out now.

/thread.

So Rollincoin, will you pay me the 1btc bounty that you offered if I proved you scammed me?

Lol, looks like someone doesn't know what an archived site is. Accusing OP of photoshopping the hashes! Roll Eyes
Also the way he got butthurt simply proves his intention.

Thanks rambeazle for bringing this up.
This kind of behavior will often be looked over if you hadn't surfaced it.

No problem. The fact that he can throw away his shitty site now is all the satisfaction I need. Disgusting thief.

we not change md5 hash.. show please screenshot 10 may or 9 may.

where screenshot of another day?
is not it strange?

is not proof,

you can check it.
make bet and check.
if you lose i refund bet to you.

please check.

and make video!

You still dont get it do you. He's is showing an archive of your site on the 11th and the current one, it shows the hash was changed. He archived the site on the 11th because he believed he was defrauded by your site which so happens to be true. No shocker there though. Site looks like shit anyways
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May 12, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
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Your site is an obvious scam and I assume everyone is smart enough to figure that out now.

/thread.

So Rollincoin, will you pay me the 1btc bounty that you offered if I proved you scammed me?

Lol, looks like someone doesn't know what an archived site is. Accusing OP of photoshopping the hashes! Roll Eyes
Also the way he got butthurt simply proves his intention.

Thanks rambeazle for bringing this up.
This kind of behavior will often be looked over if you hadn't surfaced it.

No problem. The fact that he can throw away his shitty site now is all the satisfaction I need. Disgusting thief.

we not change md5 hash.. show please screenshot 10 may or 9 may.

where screenshot of another day?
is not it strange?

is not proof,

you can check it.
make bet and check.
if you lose i refund bet to you.

please check.

and make video!

You didnt change it on 10 may or 9 may, you changed it on 11 may after I bet. You were unlucky that the internet archive documented the site before I bet. Oh it must be making you really angry.

If it is any consolation, I can buy your site from you. I offer you 0.1 btc. If you accept, take it from the amount that you scammed from me and now owe me Smiley
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May 12, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
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and make video!

No need for that.
An archive of a site is much clearer proof than a video. Clearer than the blue sky as well.

And you are now instructing this since you've changed the hashes back.
Nice try. Wink

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May 12, 2016, 09:41:21 AM
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and make video!

No need for that.
An archive of a site is much clearer proof than a video. Clearer than the blue sky too.

And you are now instructing this since you've changed the hashes back.
Nice try. Wink

Rollincoin, you could change the hash back, pay out my winning and pretend nothing happened. Cheesy

But then again, this thread will serve as a reminder of your ways.
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May 12, 2016, 09:45:36 AM
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and make video!

No need for that.
An archive of a site is much clearer proof than a video. Clearer than the blue sky as well.

And you are now instructing this since you've changed the hashes back.
Nice try. Wink

we not changed hash if you have screenshot of 9 or 10 may you see this hash 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990 
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May 12, 2016, 09:46:56 AM
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You still dont get it do you. He's is showing an archive of your site on the 11th and the current one, it shows the hash was changed. He archived the site on the 11th because he believed he was defrauded by your site which so happens to be true. No shocker there though. Site looks like shit anyways

we not changed hash if you have screenshot of 9 or 10 may you see this hash 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990 
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May 12, 2016, 09:49:37 AM
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If it is any consolation, I can buy your site from you. I offer you 0.1 btc. If you accept, take it from the amount that you scammed from me and now owe me Smiley


i can sell it for 2btc only.
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May 12, 2016, 09:51:00 AM
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Added negative trust.

People should realize that their "provably fair" implementation is already not provably fair anyway. They could literally show 10000s of hashes where the string is "Lose:......" and claim it's provably fair because the hash is the same. That is not how provably fair works.

Somehow, with such a crappy bad non-"provably fair" implementation, they still managed to cheat it extra - by changing the hash. That is like almost impressive.

Please ignore such sites.


we not changed hash if you have screenshot of 9 or 10 may you see this hash 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990
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Last edit: May 12, 2016, 10:13:12 AM by LiQuidx
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Added negative trust.

People should realize that their "provably fair" implementation is already not provably fair anyway. They could literally show 10000s of hashes where the string is "Lose:......" and claim it's provably fair because the hash is the same. That is not how provably fair works.

Somehow, with such a crappy bad non-"provably fair" implementation, they still managed to cheat it extra - by changing the hash. That is like almost impressive.

Please ignore such sites.


we not changed hash if you have screenshot of 9 or 10 may you see this hash 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990

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You didnt change it on 10 may or 9 may, you changed it on 11 may after I bet. You were unlucky that the internet archive documented the site before I bet. Oh it must be making you really angry.

If it is any consolation, I can buy your site from you. I offer you 0.1 btc. If you accept, take it from the amount that you scammed from me and now owe me Smiley

Stop asking for a screenshot of 9th and 10th of May. As rambeazle said you changed it on 11th AFTER he made the bet. Don't make yourself look more stupid than you already did.

 

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May 12, 2016, 10:41:44 AM
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Added negative trust.

People should realize that their "provably fair" implementation is already not provably fair anyway. They could literally show 10000s of hashes where the string is "Lose:......" and claim it's provably fair because the hash is the same. That is not how provably fair works.

Somehow, with such a crappy bad non-"provably fair" implementation, they still managed to cheat it extra - by changing the hash. That is like almost impressive.

Please ignore such sites.


we not changed hash if you have screenshot of 9 or 10 may you see this hash 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990

...
You didnt change it on 10 may or 9 may, you changed it on 11 may after I bet. You were unlucky that the internet archive documented the site before I bet. Oh it must be making you really angry.

If it is any consolation, I can buy your site from you. I offer you 0.1 btc. If you accept, take it from the amount that you scammed from me and now owe me Smiley

Stop asking for a screenshot of 9th and 10th of May. As rambeazle said you changed it on 11th AFTER he made the bet. Don't make yourself look more stupid than you already did.

I said this is not proof! we don't change hash.. he provide fake 100%!
proof is screenshot of 9,10 may.
and md5 hash equal hash today!
he really scam because lose bet..
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May 12, 2016, 10:45:52 AM
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Added negative trust.

People should realize that their "provably fair" implementation is already not provably fair anyway. They could literally show 10000s of hashes where the string is "Lose:......" and claim it's provably fair because the hash is the same. That is not how provably fair works.

Somehow, with such a crappy bad non-"provably fair" implementation, they still managed to cheat it extra - by changing the hash. That is like almost impressive.

Please ignore such sites.


we not changed hash if you have screenshot of 9 or 10 may you see this hash 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990

...
You didnt change it on 10 may or 9 may, you changed it on 11 may after I bet. You were unlucky that the internet archive documented the site before I bet. Oh it must be making you really angry.

If it is any consolation, I can buy your site from you. I offer you 0.1 btc. If you accept, take it from the amount that you scammed from me and now owe me Smiley

Stop asking for a screenshot of 9th and 10th of May. As rambeazle said you changed it on 11th AFTER he made the bet. Don't make yourself look more stupid than you already did.

I said this is not proof! we don't change hash.. he provide fake 100%!
proof is screenshot of 9,10 may.
and md5 hash equal hash today!
he really scam because lose bet..

He didnt provide any fake pics you dickhead. Archive.org is a website which archives your webpage. If you dont know what archive is then read here : http://www.dictionary.com/browse/archive
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May 12, 2016, 10:56:36 AM
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Using an incredible 10% house edge, and still it's not enough?

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May 12, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
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Using an incredible 10% house edge, and still it's not enough?

sir, i'm not scam and cheat.
is bad situation for me..
really fake.
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May 12, 2016, 11:06:21 AM
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Added negative trust.

People should realize that their "provably fair" implementation is already not provably fair anyway. They could literally show 10000s of hashes where the string is "Lose:......" and claim it's provably fair because the hash is the same. That is not how provably fair works.

Somehow, with such a crappy bad non-"provably fair" implementation, they still managed to cheat it extra - by changing the hash. That is like almost impressive.

Please ignore such sites.


we not changed hash if you have screenshot of 9 or 10 may you see this hash 3509c457c164d3a813c833cb9f62a990

...
You didnt change it on 10 may or 9 may, you changed it on 11 may after I bet. You were unlucky that the internet archive documented the site before I bet. Oh it must be making you really angry.

If it is any consolation, I can buy your site from you. I offer you 0.1 btc. If you accept, take it from the amount that you scammed from me and now owe me Smiley

Stop asking for a screenshot of 9th and 10th of May. As rambeazle said you changed it on 11th AFTER he made the bet. Don't make yourself look more stupid than you already did.

I said this is not proof! we don't change hash.. he provide fake 100%!
proof is screenshot of 9,10 may.
and md5 hash equal hash today!
he really scam because lose bet..

He didnt provide any fake pics you dickhead. Archive.org is a website which archives your webpage. If you dont know what archive is then read here : http://www.dictionary.com/browse/archive

i know it. and hash not changed.
you can try it and understand.

he is cheater and scammer.
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May 12, 2016, 11:06:36 AM
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Using an incredible 10% house edge, and still it's not enough?

sir, i'm not scam and cheat.
is bad situation for me..
really fake.

Please explain how I could have possibly faked it. I would really love to hear your theory. How did the different hash get on archive.org?
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May 12, 2016, 11:12:25 AM
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Using an incredible 10% house edge, and still it's not enough?

sir, i'm not scam and cheat.
is bad situation for me..
really fake.

Please explain how I could have possibly faked it. I would really love to hear your theory. How did the different hash get on archive.org?
I can think of a few Cheesy

You work at archive.org and decided this is a good way to test your Admin powers?
You've hacked archive.org and edited their archive?
You've changed rollincoin's DNS-settings to a site controlled by you, posted the edited hashes, archived that site, and changed the DNS-settings back to the original?

There! Three very possible but highly unlikely explanations. Let's see which one rollinCoin chooses Cheesy
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