[Solved] I smell scam here - I think bitmarket.io is a scammer

[traderbit]

This issue has been solved and bitmarket.io has send us the funds.

Everything is explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1471789.msg15982034#msg15982034

What happened: bitmarket.io required a loan and i offered him the loan without any interest.
Firstly i asked if he is dealing with neotox and he said that he haven't done yet, I required him to make a post that he is dealing with me, after that i sent the amount and required from him to confirm on the thread then i got a strange reply "dafuq u smoking?", i was suprised with this.
Later he made a post that someone else is using his account, Password is changed as it can be seen on seclog. http://archive.is/WNdyf
I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162203

Reference Link:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1471535.0 , http://archive.is/v8ZBi (Archived)
Amount Scammed: 0.164492
Payment Method: Bitcoin
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/09aad092f97ee5d0e6a8b6a652f038ded3d60fa12cba4e22ca4f2a4e8972ed80
PM/Chat Logs:

I can fund this loan with no interest, if you haven't made any deal with Neotox please let me know.

Hi, I haven't got it done yet.

That would be amazing.

Thank you.

Ok, I'm sending now and will write the address to send back.

P.S Could you please reply to my post that you are taking the loan from me, thanks!

Just did

Alright, i have just sent the 0.164492BTC worth 75 USD (coindesk rate), please repay 0.164492BTC to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

Please confirm it.

dafuq u smoking?

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[Bettwarm]

What happened: bitmarket.io required a loan and i offered him the loan without any interest.
Firstly i asked if he is dealing with neotox and he said that he haven't done yet, I required him to make a post that he is dealing with me, after that i sent the amount and required from him to confirm on the thread then i got a strange reply "dafuq u smoking?", i was suprised with this.
Later he made a post that someone else is using his account, Password is changed as it can be seen on seclog.
I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162203

Reference Link:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1471535.0 , http://archive.is/v8ZBi (Archived)
Amount Scammed: 0.164492
Payment Method: Bitcoin
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/09aad092f97ee5d0e6a8b6a652f038ded3d60fa12cba4e22ca4f2a4e8972ed80
PM/Chat Logs:

I can fund this loan with no interest, if you haven't made any deal with Neotox please let me know.

Hi, I haven't got it done yet.

That would be amazing.

Thank you.

Ok, I'm sending now and will write the address to send back.

P.S Could you please reply to my post that you are taking the loan from me, thanks!

Just did

Alright, i have just sent the 0.164492BTC worth 75 USD (coindesk rate), please repay 0.164492BTC to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

Please confirm it.

dafuq u smoking?

U should have asked for a signed message before sending the loan. Ask someone from DT to tagg the account with negative trust.

[traderbit]

U should have asked for a signed message before sending the loan.

I know, this was my mistake, but don't know how i trusted him. I checked the seclog if the password was changed the last 30days but couldn't find anything.

[Bettwarm]

U should have asked for a signed message before sending the loan.

I know, this was my mistake, but don't know how i trusted him. I checked the seclog if the password was changed the last 30days but couldn't find anything.

He just reset his password at: 9:24:34 PM, so this my account got hacked is fake.
After getting the loan his account password changed, he is busted.

[Lutpin]

I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Sounds alot like you indeed were.
Went ahead and left a (temporary) negative feedback on the account, posting here to keep track of the discussion.
Let's see how this one plays out.

He just reset his password at: 9:24:34 PM, so this my account got hacked is fake.
After getting the loan his account password changed, he is busted.

Maybe that password reset was to lock the hacker out of his account, not to "fake a hack".

[Quickseller]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

[Bettwarm]

I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Sounds alot like you indeed were.
Went ahead and left a (temporary) negative feedback on the account, posting here to keep track of the discussion.
Let's see how this one plays out.

He just reset his password at: 9:24:34 PM, so this my account got hacked is fake.
After getting the loan his account password changed, he is busted.

Maybe that password reset was to lock the hacker out of his account, not to "fake a hack".

Yes indeed, the hacker on purpose did not change the password since he wanted to scam people, and when a password changes and then asks a loan, it is obviously without a signed message that a scam will happen.

Traderbit, do not lend witout signed message.

[Lutpin]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

While I think (and would like to point out that) it was careless to give out a no collateral loan without requesting a signed message (and even more to give one out in private messages, while not really knowing the borrower, like the other guy did), I have to agree with QS here, it would be best for bitmarket.io to repair the damage done with their account and repay both lenders.

[traderbit]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

I don't know what is happening but let's wait from bitmarket.io to respond if he really was hacked or the hacker has still access to that account. I know that i have made a mistake by not asking for a signed message, can't believe how i didn't asked for it.

[zazarb]

question to @traderbit and @ThirstyMoon, Guys, where are you sane mind?
sarcastic, but you forcibly casting your money to  scammer. I have not seen you in lending section before. What prompted you to do so?
To lend need some knowledge also...

[traderbit]

question to @traderbit and @ThirstyMoon, Guys, where are you sane mind?
sarcastic, but you forcibly casting your money to  scammer. I have not seen you in lending section before. What prompted you to do so?
To lend need some knowledge also...

I have few posts in lending section, recently i have gave a loan of $5 to kozan and got paid within a week (even though there was a delay), i check regularly when i have time that section and i know how deals goes but i made a big mistake by not requiring a signed message,(even though i signed my post through my PGP key)

[Bettwarm]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

While I think (and would like to point out that) it was careless to give out a no collateral loan without requesting a signed message (and even more to give one out in private messages, while not really knowing the borrower, like the other guy did), I have to agree with QS here, it would be best for bitmarket.io to repair the damage done with their account and repay both lenders.

I think Traderbit should have asked for signed message. However Traderbit is the victim here, I think it should be repaid in a way, but I think it is also u fair to let someone repay 150$(2 loans). This will be a expensive lesson for either the lenders or the hacked person(real bitmarket.io).

[traderbit]

QS check this: seems that the hacker has these two accounts wheelz1200 and bitmarket.io

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Sorry to hear about this.  People are quick to loan to Hero and Legendary members so they rush to accept the loan request without asking for a signed message or collateral or whatever.  I did it myself and got burned.  Trust no one on this forum.

[bitmarket.io]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

[traderbit]

bitmarket.io is online and watching this thread:



P.S I think that i should contact those that have left positive feedback to bitmarket.io and maybe they can help me to reach the real owner of the account(if it is hacked).

[traderbit]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

If $75 are small for you they are pretty big to me, could you please send back my money to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L ?
Can you sign a message to prove that you still own your account?

[Boelens]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

I have left a negative trust that will remain until the lenders recover their money.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Right, but you know that the scam-->"hacked!" scenario is one we've seen over and over here, and it's worn thin. Not straight up calling you a liar, but it's definitely suspicious.  People who've been trusted here have done this.

[bitmarket.io]

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.