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Hi ,
What do you think of the new antminer from bitmain?

1.Hashrate:2.7 TH / s 5%
2.Power consuming:697W + 10%
3.Voltage :11.6~13.0
4.Chip Quantity:90x BM1385
5.Dimension:306mm(L)*150mm(W)*275mm(H)
6.Cooling:212038 Fan
7.Working Temperature:0℃ TO 40℃
8.Connection:Ethernet
9.PowerSupply(1000W Enermax)
10.Noise level:62db(25℃)
11.Net Weight:6.02KG
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May 17, 2016, 03:51:02 AM
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Source for this?

Interesting if true.  This vendor in past has been quick to post info if who I'm thinking https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1195199.msg12543681#msg12543681 .

I have not seen/heard of this either.   But if who I'm thinking of... they seem to put info on here pretty quick just don't mention word leak info.... they don't like that
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May 17, 2016, 04:02:25 AM
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Hi ,
What do you think of the new antminer from bitmain?
1.Hashrate:2.7 TH / s的5%
2.Power consuming:697W + 10%
3.Voltage :11.6~13.0
4.Chip Quantity:90片 BM1385
5.Dimension:306mm(L)*150mm(W)*275mm(H)
6.Cooling:212038 Fan
7.Working Temperature:0℃ TO 40℃
8.Connection:Ehternet
9.Powersupply(1000W enermax)
10.Noise level:62db(25℃)
11.Net Weight:6.02KG

Well looks to be a tweener.

I do not like a piece of gear that is a tweener .

But my first prediction for the iPad was that : it's a tweener bound to fail.

So I did a full fail on that prediction.

Rather then say this a loser gear no one wants since it is not very efficient .

I will say if it is cheap maybe people will like it.

It would be good for replacing s-5's

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So Bitmain listened and answered all our prayers?





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May 17, 2016, 04:10:50 AM
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So Bitmain listened and answered all our prayers?


Well it is the s-7 chip.  Would be nice if,it,was a new chip and used 300 watts.

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So Bitmain listened and answered all our prayers?


Well it is the s-7 chip.  Would be nice if,it,was a new chip and used 300 watts.

Yeah but this is good for home miners. Since it probably will be quieter and won't require such a huge PSU.

A lot depends on the pricing however.





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May 17, 2016, 04:12:07 AM
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So Bitmain listened and answered all our prayers?

Yeah, now if only they'd released it six or eight months ago, instead of right before the halving, when Bitmain themselves and at least three other outfits are moving 16nm gear with between one fourth and one half the power consumption.

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It has a built in PSU
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Don"t think i have seen this on a bitmain spec

9.Powersupply(1000W enermax)

How is that Lexical analysis working out bickneleski?
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I do not know what they are thinking. Built in psu = $$$.

So it will be 350 plus shipping. Maybe 400 total.

And we will need to pull the psu out in a month once it fails s-2 anyone.

Maybe I will get one for the array and do review .

Frankly I may buy another gpu and Eth mine with it.

That psu must be left over from the s-2.

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I do not know what they are thinking. Built in psu = $$$.

So it will be 350 plus shipping. Maybe 400 total.

And we will need to pull the psu out in a month once it fails s-2 anyone.

Maybe I will get one for the array and do review .

Frankly I may buy another gpu and Eth mine with it.

That psu must be left over from the s-2.

I just want to know where info is from and how solid it is.   They hit gear quick on here to try to get an ad.   They got avalon 6 on here really quick with prototype pics.  But.... they also reported on the Avalon 4 Mini - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152545.msg12135872#msg12135872 which never moved to far past prototype's. 

So I just want to know where info is from so we know how solid it is.
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There is no market for home whiners. Make a S7+ instead.
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Here is the source from its official website.
https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160421034108161se80ckq8069F
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now that is cool. i would love a few of those for 0.88btc , it's a shame the shipping to Canada would be more than the miner....
those would work good for my situation, all-in-ones, and under 700watts, yummy

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I do not know what they are thinking. Built in psu = $$$.

So it will be 350 plus shipping. Maybe 400 total.

And we will need to pull the psu out in a month once it fails s-2 anyone.

Maybe I will get one for the array and do review .

Frankly I may buy another gpu and Eth mine with it.

That psu must be left over from the s-2.

I just want to know where info is from and how solid it is.   They hit gear quick on here to try to get an ad.   They got avalon 6 on here really quick with prototype pics.  But.... they also reported on the Avalon 4 Mini - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152545.msg12135872#msg12135872 which never moved to far past prototype's. 

So I just want to know where info is from so we know how solid it is.

Did you see the post of the news source ?
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now that is cool. i would love a few of those for 0.88btc , it's a shame the shipping to Canada would be more than the miner....
those would work good for my situation, all-in-ones, and under 700watts, yummy

Shipping to Canada will probably be like $50.


Wonder what they would charge without the 1000Watt PSU since most of us have a PSU already.

Looking at this however I think it would be cheaper to just buy an S7 and remove out hashing blade. And sell that blade on eBay.





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now that is cool. i would love a few of those for 0.88btc , it's a shame the shipping to Canada would be more than the miner....
those would work good for my situation, all-in-ones, and under 700watts, yummy

Shipping to Canada will probably be like $50.


Wonder what they would charge without the 1000Watt PSU since most of us have a PSU already.

Looking at this however I think it would be cheaper to just buy an S7 and remove out hashing blade. And sell that blade on eBay.

ya i was trying to order one, the sites all weird, dosent show in cart then i get
"Freight calculation error, please send e-mail to info@bitmaintech.com"
so i can't even check shipping costs. i would buy one of those just to have 1, it would be perfect for my situation (small home noob miner)

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I do not know what they are thinking. Built in psu = $$$.

So it will be 350 plus shipping. Maybe 400 total.

And we will need to pull the psu out in a month once it fails s-2 anyone.

Maybe I will get one for the array and do review .

Frankly I may buy another gpu and Eth mine with it.

That psu must be left over from the s-2.

I just want to know where info is from and how solid it is.   They hit gear quick on here to try to get an ad.   They got avalon 6 on here really quick with prototype pics.  But.... they also reported on the Avalon 4 Mini - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152545.msg12135872#msg12135872 which never moved to far past prototype's.  

So I just want to know where info is from so we know how solid it is.

Did you see the post of the news source ?

I did now that you posted it.  Thank you for posting it is a good source with pictures and info.   In future you might include links to sources with posts.  

Without source it is hard to tell much as you did get the first They got avalon 6 on here really quick with prototype pics which was very real. But the Avalon 4 Mini you posted and have on your site really never made it past prototypes.
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This only open 1000unit to local China. The price is including the postage(local) + PSU 1000W.
....however, from the chinese forum, this model is a joke, local chinese no one willing to buy.
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I think that this purchase would be a disaster.

This is S9 design with older S7 chip.

The same disaster, as S5+  before S7.
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Now you have to know the S9 parameters

5.Dimension:306mm(L)*150mm(W)*275mm(H)
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https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160421034108161se80ckq8069F

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I think that this purchase would be a disaster.

With this they can also replace their ageing ATX PSUs... Wink

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Those psus come from the s2

not worth buying with the psu.

shipping cost for that psu is a waste.

Too bad   as it is a decent format.

Would have been nice if it came out in December  without the psu.

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Seems like they are trying to move the rest of the S7 chips out the door to make room for their S9 chips.



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May 17, 2016, 04:16:48 PM
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Seems like they are trying to move the rest of the S7 chips out the door to make room for their S9 chips.



 I would love a few with s-9 chips and no psus


I could put this psu instead as I have a few of them


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I can't really make out the configuration, but is this roughly 2/3 of an S7, with the ATX PSU on top and two fans? The 90 chips sounds like two boards. The power requirements and hashrate don't quite fit the "two thirds of an S7" theory, but I'd be stunned if they actually engineered another board for the BM1385 chip at this late date.

As packaging goes, it's pretty obviously a "paste up job" of existing parts (except for the top PSU mounting bracket).

I know I will pass, though I don't think Bitmain will miss my non-purchase.  Smiley

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Is there some kind of april fool-like equivalent thing in China or something? This is silly as hell. o.O


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@Tupsu: Why do you think this tells us anything about the S9?

My crystal ball says , it is the ancestor of the S9. It will soon be seen.  

S9 will be two blades small miner,  with the possibility of fixing the power supply unit or with cheap CPU on top

Basic Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) without power supply holder

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Is there some kind of april fool-like equivalent thing in China or something? This is silly as hell. o.O

works for cheap power guy that wants a quieter miner.  but so does unplugging a board on a real s-7 then down clock the two left from freq 700 to freq 500

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Is there some kind of april fool-like equivalent thing in China or something? This is silly as hell. o.O

works for cheap power guy that wants a quieter miner.  but so does unplugging a board on a real s-7 then down clock the two left from freq 700 to freq 500

Hmm. I think for a cheap power guy that wants a quiet miner, you'd want a severely undervolted version and not those fans. When i looked at the price, i told myself:
"I dont see any upside, if i was to throw money away, i'd buy a S7 and underclock that, which would give better results, I think."

On the small amount of "free" electricity i have, i have been running my now obsolete S3/S5 on silent or aftermarket fans.

I don't know maybe this fill a niche somewhere and i just don't see it.


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May 18, 2016, 02:26:09 AM
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This is literally just a 2 blade S7 with a dumpy pc ATX power supply. At this price you may as well buy a normal S7 and trade someone the extra hashing board for a quality PSU if you want to run something under 1000w.

Plus as the other guy said, this is a limited run only available in China.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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Very interesting I wonder what if anything ever happened with the U4 does anybody know.  When I started mining I started on the U3 and I always have hoped for a U4 but I've heard nothing about it.
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Very interesting I wonder what if anything ever happened with the U4 does anybody know.  When I started mining I started on the U3 and I always have hoped for a U4 but I've heard nothing about it.

The same thing that happened on the S6 and S8 i believe. I don't know if Bitmain plan on doing any other small miners again, but it would be nice. My absolute best IMO is the S3. Some S3 with S9 chips would be sooo nice.


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With the current network hash rate and difficulty I cant see them creating smaller miners as they would never be able to achieve ROI.


I want larger, faster, rack mountable units personally. Id rather monitor 1000 large fast machines than 10000 tiny lil S7 style miners :/

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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Is there some kind of april fool-like equivalent thing in China or something? This is silly as hell. o.O

works for cheap power guy that wants a quieter miner.  but so does unplugging a board on a real s-7 then down clock the two left from freq 700 to freq 500

Hmm. I think for a cheap power guy that wants a quiet miner, you'd want a severely undervolted version and not those fans. When i looked at the price, i told myself:
"I dont see any upside, if i was to throw money away, i'd buy a S7 and underclock that, which would give better results, I think."

On the small amount of "free" electricity i have, i have been running my now obsolete S3/S5 on silent or aftermarket fans.

I don't know maybe this fill a niche somewhere and i just don't see it.

same my power cost is kind of free i just never really admitted it or said so because i pay it back in other costs i pay in my house like cable phone etc . i don't have to but do any way and it's few 100 a month and even pay half the power bill from time to time, on top of rent food the normal stuff .

that's exactly why i keep running s3 s5 and a4 etc even some old ass script miner thu i just retied one took it a part and thu away the inside,molded the case some then put in more up to date script miner boards .
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i love how it implies on the bottom that mining on any other pool but antpool may void your warranty.. :/
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i love how it implies on the bottom that mining on any other pool but antpool may void your warranty.. :/


anywhere else but MINERAL pool! haha    (is that google translate error or BMT translate error?)

no but i never noticed that till now, it does kinda imply that hey?   good ol' BMT .... -_-

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not all of us are need it to do ROI and would like to keep mining in our homes.

at my age i don't think i would want the hassle of a 1000 miners i would go 50 and be happy . and it is a hassle from day to day rather you admit or not , it's also fun but it has it's down sides etc.



If you don't care to ROI and want to mine in your home buy an S3 instead.  It secures the network just as good, and you will lose less money.

You're welcome  Grin

On a side note, I agree paying too much for a POS PSU (if it's the same as the S2) and additional shipping costs.  This seems like a step backwards, and only good to dump old parts on suckers who don't understand the halving.  I much prefer the S7 design myself, from both a practical and a biased, self-interested point of view (server PSU's).

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Well, like everyone else.... I just hate it. A two board S7, great idea if it had been done a few Months ago, with a PSU that noone needs or wants, pushing up the shipping cost at a total price which is very close to a batch 17, 3 Board S7.  Duh..... Must mean that S9 is close?


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not all of us are need it to do ROI and would like to keep mining in our homes.

I am not sure how staring at a loud piece of tech pumping out heat while costing you money makes sense for anyone. I mean the whole point of mining is to make a profit is it not?  You may as well crank your house heater up, open all the windows, and just watch it waste money if thats the case. No special hardware, no reboots, no mining pools needed.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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But the furnace is so boring... no flashing lights at all.

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@Tupsu: Why do you think this tells us anything about the S9?

My crystal ball says , it is the ancestor of the S9. It will soon be seen.  

S9 will be two blades small miner,  with the possibility of fixing the power supply unit or with cheap CPU on top

Basic Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) without power supply holder

I don't think the S7 will be only 2 boards, unless each board can drain 600/700w. At this point, a new miner with less than 8 Th/s will be a bit disapointing. When you have 3 or 4 antminer s7 running, you think the antminer s5 is a very small miner, you would need 12 or 16 S5 to do the same hashrate (with a lot more power, of course), and you would need up to 43 antminer s7 to do the same hashrate. I don't belive we will see smaller miners than the s7 from bitmain (and of course, avalon will raise the hashrate of new miners, too). Do you belive it could be a new Antminer S9 with 5.4Th/s and draining 700w? I think it will be greater, draining 1.300w and hashing 8.125 Th/s (0.16w J/Gh)...
But i'm only speculating about it, i really don't know anything about Bitmain...

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With the current network hash rate and difficulty I cant see them creating smaller miners as they would never be able to achieve ROI.


I want larger, faster, rack mountable units personally. Id rather monitor 1000 large fast machines than 10000 tiny lil S7 style miners :/


I have agree with you here, I would like to see some big industrial rack mount equipment with either a way of plugging PSU's in, (maybe three laying flat above with the cables curving round) or inbuilt PSU's

I however like this 2.7th machine to be honest, when you try and add it to the cart in the UK it just turns into a S7. Sad

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With the current network hash rate and difficulty I cant see them creating smaller miners as they would never be able to achieve ROI.


I want larger, faster, rack mountable units personally. Id rather monitor 1000 large fast machines than 10000 tiny lil S7 style miners :/


I have agree with you here, I would like to see some big industrial rack mount equipment with either a way of plugging PSU's in, (maybe three laying flat above with the cables curving round) or inbuilt PSU's

I however like this 2.7th machine to be honest, when you try and add it to the cart in the UK it just turns into a S7. Sad

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@Tupsu: Why do you think this tells us anything about the S9?

My crystal ball says , it is the ancestor of the S9. It will soon be seen.  

S9 will be two blades small miner,  with the possibility of fixing the power supply unit or with cheap CPU on top

Basic Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) without power supply holder

I don't think the S7 will be only 2 boards, unless each board can drain 600/700w. At this point, a new miner with less than 8 Th/s will be a bit disapointing. When you have 3 or 4 antminer s7 running, you think the antminer s5 is a very small miner, you would need 12 or 16 S5 to do the same hashrate (with a lot more power, of course), and you would need up to 43 antminer s7 to do the same hashrate. I don't belive we will see smaller miners than the s7 from bitmain (and of course, avalon will raise the hashrate of new miners, too). Do you belive it could be a new Antminer S9 with 5.4Th/s and draining 700w? I think it will be greater, draining 1.300w and hashing 8.125 Th/s (0.16w J/Gh)...
But i'm only speculating about it, i really don't know anything about Bitmain...


yeah but this is not really sustainable.. you cant just keep getting faster and larger every generation.. pretty soon they will have to start delivering 1ph truck size farms..


smaller more efficient is really the way to go if you want to keep making a profit. hopefully these companies that make the miners realize this and stop making industrial size miners.

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With the current network hash rate and difficulty I cant see them creating smaller miners as they would never be able to achieve ROI.


I want larger, faster, rack mountable units personally. Id rather monitor 1000 large fast machines than 10000 tiny lil S7 style miners :/


I have agree with you here, I would like to see some big industrial rack mount equipment with either a way of plugging PSU's in, (maybe three laying flat above with the cables curving round) or inbuilt PSU's

I however like this 2.7th machine to be honest, when you try and add it to the cart in the UK it just turns into a S7. Sad

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@Tupsu: Why do you think this tells us anything about the S9?

My crystal ball says , it is the ancestor of the S9. It will soon be seen.  

S9 will be two blades small miner,  with the possibility of fixing the power supply unit or with cheap CPU on top

Basic Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) without power supply holder

I don't think the S7 will be only 2 boards, unless each board can drain 600/700w. At this point, a new miner with less than 8 Th/s will be a bit disapointing. When you have 3 or 4 antminer s7 running, you think the antminer s5 is a very small miner, you would need 12 or 16 S5 to do the same hashrate (with a lot more power, of course), and you would need up to 43 antminer s7 to do the same hashrate. I don't belive we will see smaller miners than the s7 from bitmain (and of course, avalon will raise the hashrate of new miners, too). Do you belive it could be a new Antminer S9 with 5.4Th/s and draining 700w? I think it will be greater, draining 1.300w and hashing 8.125 Th/s (0.16w J/Gh)...
But i'm only speculating about it, i really don't know anything about Bitmain...


yeah but this is not really sustainable.. you cant just keep getting faster and larger every generation.. pretty soon they will have to start delivering 1ph truck size farms..


smaller more efficient is really the way to go if you want to keep making a profit. hopefully these companies that make the miners realize this and stop making industrial size miners.



That depends on your target market, which is shifting more and more so to large orders that can afford to have multiple 1 PH/s trucks.



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I think this is a much better idea for ending the life of a chip than the S5+.  The S5+ was targeted at the same buyers who would have purchased the S7 two weeks later.  This S7-LN is targeted at smaller budget miners who most likely won't be purchasing the S9 anyway.  It is a very large step forward from the S5+ disaster and I'm glad to see it.  Having learned my lesson already though, I will wait for the S9 this time around.


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May 18, 2016, 11:12:53 PM
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yeah but this is not really sustainable.. you cant just keep getting faster and larger every generation.. pretty soon they will have to start delivering 1ph truck size farms..

Why exactly can you not get faster and larger? As mining is industrialized that is what needs to happen to keep it growing.

P.S. There are multiple companies that have built and offered to sell tractor trailer sized self contained farms. As a matter of fact Avalon is working on one right now. The only problem is the cooling in such a small enclosed area. You have to use air conditioning which basically destroys the profits.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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Very interesting I wonder what if anything ever happened with the U4 does anybody know.  When I started mining I started on the U3 and I always have hoped for a U4 but I've heard nothing about it.

The same thing that happened on the S6 and S8 i believe. I don't know if Bitmain plan on doing any other small miners again, but it would be nice. My absolute best IMO is the S3. Some S3 with S9 chips would be sooo nice.

Yeah well it was still cool to mine some btc or some altcoins with the U3. If they used the S7 chips on a U3 type platform I think the hashrate would be pretty high relatively speaking.
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I think we can all agree on this:  More flashing lights.  Christmas color leds.  Even more leds.  More flashing frequency.  brighter.  faster.  longer.
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I think this is a much better idea for ending the life of a chip than the S5+.  The S5+ was targeted at the same buyers who would have purchased the S7 two weeks later.  This S7-LN is targeted at smaller budget miners who most likely won't be purchasing the S9 anyway.  It is a very large step forward from the S5+ disaster and I'm glad to see it.  Having learned my lesson already though, I will wait for the S9 this time around.
Yeah I remember the nightmare with those S5+ and all the people who really got reamed on that deal, I will hold out for now.
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I think this is a much better idea for ending the life of a chip than the S5+.  The S5+ was targeted at the same buyers who would have purchased the S7 two weeks later.  This S7-LN is targeted at smaller budget miners who most likely won't be purchasing the S9 anyway.  It is a very large step forward from the S5+ disaster and I'm glad to see it.  Having learned my lesson already though, I will wait for the S9 this time around.
Yeah I remember the nightmare with those S5+ and all the people who really got reamed on that deal, I will hold out for now.

S5+ wasn't that bad. If you had free electricity you would make more money with it than S7.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477198.0





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Yeah but that's an aslo of free electric.

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I think this is a much better idea for ending the life of a chip than the S5+.  The S5+ was targeted at the same buyers who would have purchased the S7 two weeks later.  This S7-LN is targeted at smaller budget miners who most likely won't be purchasing the S9 anyway.  It is a very large step forward from the S5+ disaster and I'm glad to see it.  Having learned my lesson already though, I will wait for the S9 this time around.
Yeah I remember the nightmare with those S5+ and all the people who really got reamed on that deal, I will hold out for now.

S5+ wasn't that bad. If you had free electricity you would make more money with it than S7.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477198.0
If you have free electric you can make money, but truth is there is no such thing as free electric. Someone is flipping that bill.
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NO way going to ROI on these halving is shortly and no doubt it going to get tough in BTC world. Days have gone when only needed small asic to make a good profit. Corporate business who bulk buy killed the mini miner off or home miner from making a good amount of profit after brake even. Will be interesting to see how the price of BTC goes after few months after halving and how the mining hash goes too.

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IF it's real



awesome not really i see why no one really wants it now i don't even think i do @ 300 to 400 USD imo as other said wait: S7 will be the same price if not cheaper, there milking it till they get there new chips ready .

and hit us with a over priced s10 s11 s12 or what ever name they give it and it will sell unless bitfury  does what they said https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1291890.msg14898273#msg14898273 the other day and BW comes thu we should see nicely priced miners again everyone can enjoy.

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Why post this again? We already know its being sold on the Chinese Bitmain website.





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I think we can all agree on this:  More flashing lights.  Christmas color leds.  Even more leds.  More flashing frequency.  brighter.  faster.  longer.


here here i love to see those lights don't know what i do now with out them but yes more lights please on those miners.

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Waiting for news

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Waiting for news
Do you think we will hear anything before the halving on the new miner?  I would think they would wait until the dust settles.
That's why the last (maybe) run of S7's shipping out starting this week.  Just seems like a chaotic time to introduce a new miner.
But I suppose they will sell them regardless of the cost.  I did order one last S7 from this upcoming batch.
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This only open 1000unit to local China. The price is including the postage(local) + PSU 1000W.
....however, from the chinese forum, this model is a joke, local chinese no one willing to buy.

Well, however - I think it is a nice idea for small or low power miner, who just want a small machine.
It the chinese people dont buy it maybe bitmain will sell it worldwide Wink

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The timing of that monstrosity is awful, it is as useful as tits on a boar  Wink - unless it has some newer chips than the 1385
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I think that this purchase would be a disaster.

This is S9 design with older S7 chip.

The same disaster, as S5+  before S7.
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Now you have to know the S9 parameters

5.Dimension:306mm(L)*150mm(W)*275mm(H)
6.Cooling:212038 Fan





https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160421034108161se80ckq8069F

I dont know why they didnt just come up with a 3-board design using undervolted chips for less heat and better efficiency. I bet a 135-chip design could manage 4.2TH/1kW, which would be pretty compelling.

Including the PSU seems silly in most places where PSUs are readily available in stores. Unless its <$80 for that PSU it not really worth the hassle and shipping costs compared to the local NCIX/tigerdirect.

but i love the top bracket. Id buy just that for my S7 as it looks like a great way to minimize cord clutter from the PSU

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The timing of that monstrosity is awful, it is as useful as tits on a boar  Wink - unless it has some newer chips than the 1385
I have no idea what will sell in China.  But it's the price that baffles me.  It's like they are sticking it to their own countryman.
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The timing of that monstrosity is awful, it is as useful as tits on a boar  Wink - unless it has some newer chips than the 1385
I have no idea what will sell in China.  But it's the price that baffles me.  It's like they are sticking it to their own countryman.

Do not forget. This price is with the Chinese sales tax. ( 17% ? )

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The timing of that monstrosity is awful, it is as useful as tits on a boar  Wink - unless it has some newer chips than the 1385
I have no idea what will sell in China.  But it's the price that baffles me.  It's like they are sticking it to their own countryman.

Do not forget. This price is with the Chinese sales tax. ( 17% ? )
You gotta love the communist free market.
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pure speculation

S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s 5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W+ 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396 6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 C to 40 C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M

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pure speculation

S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s 5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W+ 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396 6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 C to 40 C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M

Wow, even speculating the frequency. I have a feeling that this will be the closest to the S9.






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pure speculation

S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s 5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W+ 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396 6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 C to 40 C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M

what are the specs of the old s7?

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pure speculation

S9 Specifications:
1. Hash Rate: 9.63 TH/s 5%
2. Power Consumption: 1350W+ 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
3. Power Efficiency: 0.15 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)
4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V
5. Chip quantity per unit: 114x BM1396 6. Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)
7. Cooling: 1x 12038 fan
8. Operating Temperature: 0 C to 40 C
9. Network Connection: Ethernet
10. Default Frequency: 800M

Wow, even speculating the frequency. I have a feeling that this will be the closest to the S9.



... and then the chinese people call it S11 and your speculation is over Cheesy

Anyways. I hope after claiming the first position they will stop a bit - even if they have a new chip.
They shall use it for own farm and dont sell it.
This would be a good long time invest for all who already have an Antminer or who want to buy a new S7 right now.
If S9, S11 or whatever is on the market the ROI for old mining hardware will be in danger (like it is and was always).
Every time the difficulty gets a bit higher the earnings will be harder --- and everytime the hashrate increases --- the difficulty will increase faster, because of passing more blocks is faster, too.

For me the winner is fix. They should be ready with a new asic out of the box for the day a competitor is announcing a new asic, but for now --- slower is nicer Wink

Just compare in here: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
or somehwere @blockchain.info  Roll Eyes Tongue

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I wouldn't buy that, I'll buy a new process, fed up of the 28nm which right now, it is having a longer life than 56nm...
Bitmain is hellbent on diluting the entire mining market at all costs, so I'm not going to help them any further.
They counter difficulty increases with putting in more hardware on the market, so there is no new-diff-settle time; which is anti-Bitcoin... it's a market takeover.
Like it or not, Chinese pools amount for over 75% of the pooled hashrate.
Who profits from this the most?  You guessed it.  Buttmain.

This is just a pilfer miner, like the S5 was... just meant to take your previous miner's good coin yields to pay for the cheap-ass hardware.
Nah, I'll keep my coin this time and wait for the next generation miner, and potentially, next non-dick manufacturer... but they all are.
I bitch at Bitmain but KnC & BitFury are 1,000 times worst and will be until there is serious competition.
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I think that this purchase would be a disaster.

This is S9 design with older S7 chip.

The same disaster, as S5+  before S7.
..................................................
Now you have to know the S9 parameters

5.Dimension:306mm(L)*150mm(W)*275mm(H)
6.Cooling:212038 Fan

https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160421034108161se80ckq8069F

I dont know why they didnt just come up with a 3-board design using undervolted chips for less heat and better efficiency. I bet a 135-chip design could manage 4.2TH/1kW, which would be pretty compelling.

Including the PSU seems silly in most places where PSUs are readily available in stores. Unless its <$80 for that PSU it not really worth the hassle and shipping costs compared to the local NCIX/tigerdirect.

but i love the top bracket. Id buy just that for my S7 as it looks like a great way to minimize cord clutter from the PSU

+1 for the bracket, would do anything to be able to tidy up the mess of cables and PSU's currently plaguing my s7's
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+1 for the bracket, would do anything to be able to tidy up the mess of cables and PSU's currently plaguing my s7's



zip ties and more zip ties will clean it up!

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https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160527114935137wr0xd6U006A9
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It would appear it is now official.  This wattage is much more workable in my appt.. Do likes.
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After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?
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After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?

I believe they are aiming this miner at people like me.  Who want to mine but I don't want to be running an operation.. Just something that uses a bit of power but is still actually adding some calcs to the network.  The idea my CPU at 500 hashes is adding to the network is just BS.

I am highly considering one, still a little more power than I would like to use BUT it is in the range it won't overload a circuit and I can have a few more things on the circuit. 
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I wonder if those Enermax Revolution87+ PSU's are used or leftovers from S2 times.

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I think this is them just clearing out old stock that would otherwise just sit there losing money for them. People wanted a lower power miner and dont care about ROI, so here it is!

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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As i know all coupons are expired. is this correct?

If not, can somebody check if it is usable for this miner?

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As i know all coupons are expired. is this correct?

If not, can somebody check if it is usable for this miner?
All coupons ARE expired.

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As i know all coupons are expired. is this correct?

If not, can somebody check if it is usable for this miner?
All coupons ARE expired.

Funny thing is, people still trying to sell them on eBay, even listing the exp date... so if anyone is starting a expired coupon collection  Tonguehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/100-OFF-ANTMINER-S7-Bitmain-Coupon-Expires-5-11-16-/322054298549?hash=item4afbee9bb5:g:3aYAAOSwQjNW-IMY
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After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?

no all coupons are dead.

4 of these small units shipped to usa   will cost 1291 with psu and shipping  you get 10.8th

2 s-7s with psus will cost 1335

so plug n play

  10.8th for  1291   s-7 lite
    9.4th for  1335  s-7 regular.

assume the power use is equal the new model looks a little better.

of course if you had a coupon then the older model is better. but coupons are dead.

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After running the calculations am I correct that holding all things constant (same elec. rate, shipping from Bitmain, difficulty,) the ROI seems to be about the same this S7-LN vs. S7  (within about 10 days or so form the calculator).  I am not even questioning if ROI is even achievable with everything else going on.. halving..next gen equipment etc. Just doing a direct a comparison between these two models.

my calculation allotted for buying a S7 PSU for about $150, and being able to use a $100 coupon on the newest Batch s7 (which I assume cant be used for the S7-LN?).

This would make total shipped cost of Each:

  • S7-LN = $276
  • S7 Batch 17 + PSU = $550

My point is, unless you just need a smaller / quieter machine... ROI wise & comparison wise the S7-LN does not seem drastically different that the S7.  Does this seem correct?

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They really must have some specific formula for determining these prices

Because its basically makes them useless by the time it pays for itself unless BTC doubles, difficulty halves.

I guess none of us will like the S9 pricing.





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They really must have some specific formula for determining these prices

Because its basically makes them useless by the time it pays for itself unless BTC doubles, difficulty halves.

I guess none of us will like the S9 pricing.

The s9 will only work for a low power guy 5 cents 6 cents.  I wonder if they will make it use 2000 watts  killing off most if not all  120 volt  setups.

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So I see these are now available on the main Bitmain site.

$276 shipping from June 2nd.

Great pity from an International shipment point of view that these are not available at a lower price & weight without the PSU.


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In my opinion there is on point on the new S7-Lite which is perfect.
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They really must have some specific formula for determining these prices

Because its basically makes them useless by the time it pays for itself unless BTC doubles, difficulty halves.

I guess none of us will like the S9 pricing.

For mining in general to remain profitable, the price of Bitcoin will have to double for the halving. As long as the price shoots up to match the difficulty - which it always has - especially after a halving, miners will remain profitable. Especially including this S7-LN because it comes with a power supply.

I'm not quite understanding why everyone is calling this useless. It's just as efficient as the previous S7, half the price, half the hashes, but it comes with a power supply.
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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation. B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.
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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus

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Any idea if this miner will run a little quieter then the original S7?





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Any idea if this miner will run a little quieter then the original S7?

yes I think I saw a db number a little lower then the s-7.

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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus

True, but remember it wasn't decades ago that we were at $700-$1100. I mean, look at whats happened the past year! We're up twice as much as we were! The point where we're at now could just be a year and a half "down-ish swing", and the when it halves it could easily double in price, which would keep miners profitable and keep the network alive.

Either way I'm waiting a month or so after the halving for the dust to settle and see where we're at. Only at that point will I consider setting up a decent mining operation.
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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus

True, but remember it wasn't decades ago that we were at $700-$1100. I mean, look at whats happened the past year! We're up twice as much as we were! The point where we're at now could just be a year and a half "down-ish swing", and the when it halves it could easily double in price, which would keep miners profitable and keep the network alive.

Either way I'm waiting a month or so after the halving for the dust to settle and see where we're at. Only at that point will I consider setting up a decent mining operation.

agreed.  im hoping that knc going down will drop 50-100PH/S from the network over next few weeks/months to reconsider mining ;p 
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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus

True, but remember it wasn't decades ago that we were at $700-$1100. I mean, look at whats happened the past year! We're up twice as much as we were! The point where we're at now could just be a year and a half "down-ish swing", and the when it halves it could easily double in price, which would keep miners profitable and keep the network alive.

Either way I'm waiting a month or so after the halving for the dust to settle and see where we're at. Only at that point will I consider setting up a decent mining operation.

agreed.  im hoping that knc going down will drop 50-100PH/S from the network over next few weeks/months to reconsider mining ;p 
till then im following phil, GPU rigs all the way

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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus

True, but remember it wasn't decades ago that we were at $700-$1100. I mean, look at whats happened the past year! We're up twice as much as we were! The point where we're at now could just be a year and a half "down-ish swing", and the when it halves it could easily double in price, which would keep miners profitable and keep the network alive.

Either way I'm waiting a month or so after the halving for the dust to settle and see where we're at. Only at that point will I consider setting up a decent mining operation.

agreed.  im hoping that knc going down will drop 50-100PH/S from the network over next few weeks/months to reconsider mining ;p  
till then im following phil, GPU rigs all the way


I have 310mh doing eth coin.   at 18 cents power on the 1st of june

I have 27-28th doing btc coin   at 'free' power =  I provide rigs buysolar provides  power we split the coins.  With my summer power price it is the only way I can mine btc at the moment.

I make more with eth coin then the btc at the moment.

I also blend and balance the  eth btc and cash  about ⅓ +  ⅓ + ⅓

And I stopped renting for a while.

So a mix is what I am doing. I will very likely get a s-9 when it comes out.

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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Heck, I might buy one so I can put the PSU in a big desktop and run it on something that'll actually hold up. Maybe play with undervolting and see what it can do.

If it's half the hashes and half the price including the PSU, just think how much profit they're still milking off the full-size S7. And just think how much profit they'd have been milking when the originals sold for four times the current pricetag. If nothing else, it's useful for that slap in the face.

The price doubling after the halving doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the price would be based on availability, and the halving only affects new coins - most of the coins to ever exist are already in circulation so the halving doesn't have that much of an effect on overall supply.

I only say it will double because A. it will nearly have to in order for ANY miners to profit, no matter how large or small of an operation.

B. the last and only time it halved the price shot through the roof, and there's only more backing for it now.

I think they came out with this to hedge against the halving, to get more people mining.

the price went down after the last time and   the diff dropped a bit.   then 3 or 4 adjustments  later we upswung in price.

Topping out in April 2013  at 240 usd  then a crash.  I would argue asics boosted price along with the ing.

But now we do not have something 10x the efficiency  like asics were to gpus

True, but remember it wasn't decades ago that we were at $700-$1100. I mean, look at whats happened the past year! We're up twice as much as we were! The point where we're at now could just be a year and a half "down-ish swing", and the when it halves it could easily double in price, which would keep miners profitable and keep the network alive.

Either way I'm waiting a month or so after the halving for the dust to settle and see where we're at. Only at that point will I consider setting up a decent mining operation.

agreed.  im hoping that knc going down will drop 50-100PH/S from the network over next few weeks/months to reconsider mining ;p  
till then im following phil, GPU rigs all the way


I have 310mh doing eth coin.   at 18 cents power on the 1st of june

I have 27-28th doing btc coin   at 'free' power =  I provide rigs buysolar provides  power we split the coins.  With my summer power price it is the only way I can mine btc at the moment.

I make more with eth coin then the btc at the moment.

I also blend and balance the  eth btc and cash  about ⅓ +  ⅓ + ⅓

And I stopped renting for a while.

So a mix is what I am doing. I will very likely get a s-9 when it comes out.

Even if the S9 is priced higher than previous versions and comes with a higher hash rate, it will likely be more efficient, being worth the upgrade. The new S7 that comes with a power supply though, those are looking great! You shave hundreds or thousands off your setup because of the free PSU. What I'm curious about is what the halving will do to mining. These things don't ship until a month before the halving, that's what is making me hesitant.
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Anybody know if that Enermax will run on 120v?  If it's anything like the S2 PSI would imagine that it would but I just want to make sure.

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Anybody know if that Enermax will run on 120v?  If it's anything like the S2 PSI would imagine that it would but I just want to make sure.

It should but if,it does not I have something for you.

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Anybody know if that Enermax will run on 120v?  If it's anything like the S2 PSI would imagine that it would but I just want to make sure.

Yeah I got a bunch of them at 120V





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Anybody know if that Enermax will run on 120v?  If it's anything like the S2 PSI would imagine that it would but I just want to make sure.
Yes.
http://www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/product_a1_1_1&lv0=1&lv1=58&no=190

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wonder if they are going to update their price..

Price and discount: Retail price is $276 per unit excluding shipping cost.


Price:       291 USD
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It looks like bitmain changed price. Yesterday was 276 usd but today 291 usd.
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Thanks for the all the replies on the power supply.  I didn't realize the Enermax is multi-rail like the LEPA 1600.  I can't believe they raised the price already thought.   Cry

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Thanks for the all the replies on the power supply.  I didn't realize the Enermax is multi-rail like the LEPA 1600.  I can't believe they raised the price already thought.   Cry

Coins went up.  This has been done before by them on more then one occasion.

I have to clock their btc addy try to figure out their sales on this.

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It looks like bitmain changed price. Yesterday was 276 usd but today 291 usd.

Yesterday the BTC price was about 480$ and today at 540$
Maybe thats the reason?


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It looks like bitmain changed price. Yesterday was 276 usd but today 291 usd.

Yesterday the BTC price was about 480$ and today at 540$
Maybe thats the reason?

probably yes and when we calculating by bitcoins it looks that price is cheaper on official page

friday: 276 USD ( 0.563 BTC )
sunday: 291 USD ( 0.543 BTC )

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May 29, 2016, 08:38:33 PM

Thanks for the all the replies on the power supply.  I didn't realize the Enermax is multi-rail like the LEPA 1600.  I can't believe they raised the price already thought.   Cry
It is "multi-rail" PSU for protection, like the circuit breakers in your house.
There is actually quite few real multi-rail PSUs.
See this review:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=270
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It looks like bitmain changed price. Yesterday was 276 usd but today 291 usd.

Yesterday the BTC price was about 480$ and today at 540$
Maybe thats the reason?

probably yes and when we calculating by bitcoins it looks that price is cheaper on official page

friday: 276 USD ( 0.563 BTC )
sunday: 291 USD ( 0.543 BTC )




That's cool wish this was all ways that way price goes up but BTC go down Smiley . makes buying stuff easier with btc and in a way saves cash kind of . why i'm glad there is cash to compare it to .


so who buying one of these  it is temping ?. there on sell now !!! to any one any were

i could have the cash to gather in about a month the bitcoin halving doesn't worry me.

I see it as a good thing and we will all adjust or it goes under and eth steps in . or we get 12.5 or so less coins and over time it gets a little harder to hit a full BTC of 12.5 coin per like now,  I'm  not to sure  if the difficulty is affected by the block change if it's not it should go about  like LTC did and after it all adjusts out we get less coins per block with the same usually complaints,  me included. .  ..and the price goes up but this time stays up and in four years it happen again.. this reminds me of the time change a few years back from 1999 to 2000 the  2k so called bug nothing really happen and life went on .

I may buy one of these or wait see what happens to the Avalon 6 price i got a feeling we won't see any of the new miners with new chips till around the middle of June to the end of July sadly.

unless they go sell in the next day or 2 we sure as hell won't see them in May for sell to the public in gen.

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I'd rather not have the PSU.
I'm NOT fond of Enermax power supplies in general (had way too many dead ones still in warenttee), and a 1000 watt unit on that miner is overkill anyway (a good 850 like the Seasonic X850 Gold or the EVGA G2 in that ballpark would make a LOT more sense), but too small for any other useage I'd want to put it to.

 Then again, looks like they might have had to go to a 1000 watt unit to get enough PCI-E connectors - my X850s only have 6 of them....


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I'd rather not have the PSU.
I'm NOT fond of Enermax power supplies in general (had way too many dead ones still in warenttee), and a 1000 watt unit on that miner is overkill anyway (a good 850 like the Seasonic X850 Gold or the EVGA G2 in that ballpark would make a LOT more sense), but too small for any other useage I'd want to put it to.

 Then again, looks like they might have had to go to a 1000 watt unit to get enough PCI-E connectors - my X850s only have 6 of them....



Well they are obviously trying to get rid of some datacener PSU's. Otherwise it wouldn't even make financial sense to include PSU in $270 USD.

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I'd rather not have the PSU.
I'm NOT fond of Enermax power supplies in general (had way too many dead ones still in warenttee), and a 1000 watt unit on that miner is overkill anyway (a good 850 like the Seasonic X850 Gold or the EVGA G2 in that ballpark would make a LOT more sense), but too small for any other useage I'd want to put it to.

 Then again, looks like they might have had to go to a 1000 watt unit to get enough PCI-E connectors - my X850s only have 6 of them....



Well they are obviously trying to get rid of some datacener PSU's. Otherwise it wouldn't even make financial sense to include PSU in $270 USD.

exactly.   

has someone confirmed those are S2 PSU's on that note? im curious, as they, yes, MUST have been "old inventory" from SOMEWHERE imo

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So, I bought one of these. Mostly because I want to play with volt adjusting and I actually have need of a beefy ATX PSU.

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So, I bought one of these. Mostly because I want to play with volt adjusting and I actually have need of a beefy ATX PSU.

How do you adjust the voltage on these? Is there an option or do you need to solder a variable resistor?





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I'm sure it'll require hardware hacking; best case, it'd take jacking into a DPOT's I2C line. Probably pretty much the same as the 135-chip S7 "repair" thread.

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I'm a little confused.  If this is just 2 blades of a S7 with 90 chips (45 per blade compared to the 3 blades of a S7 with a total of 135 chips) and the chips are clocked at the same 700M, then shouldn't it be 3.15 TH/s (instead of the 2.7 TH/s)?  Or am I missing something here?  I see that the power usage is less than 2/3 (866W vs. 700w is about 81% of original), so the efficiency is corrected for the 2.7 TH/s to 0.25 J/GH.  Or do I have this wrong?

EDIT:  I think that the 700M is an error and that they are running at 600M (this is the speed I had my S7 running and it was putting out about 4.05 TH/s).

Shipping is about $55 with FedEx to So. Cal.

Also, when someone gets one, please post pics on how the PS bracket is attached to the S7 case?  I'd be interested in just picking up the PS bracket if available.
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I'm a little confused.  If this is just 2 blades of a S7 with 90 chips (45 per blade compared to the 3 blades of a S7 with a total of 135 chips) and the chips are clocked at the same 700M, and the efficiency is the same 0.25 J/GH, then shouldn't it be 3.15 TH/s (instead of the 2.7 TH/s)?  Or am I missing something here?  I see that the power usage is less than 2/3, but shouldn't the efficiency then be corrected and go up?  Or do I have this wrong?

Also, when someone gets one, please post pics on how the PS bracket is attached to the S7 case?

Yes I agree the obvious Maths do not add up. I had assumed that it was merely a 2 Board version of the 700MHz 3 Board 135 Chip S7.

So either the clock speed must be less than 700MHz or the Hash Rate of the chips at 700MHz must be lower or they just got the maths wrong...


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I'm a little confused.  If this is just 2 blades of a S7 with 90 chips (45 per blade compared to the 3 blades of a S7 with a total of 135 chips) and the chips are clocked at the same 700M, then shouldn't it be 3.15 TH/s (instead of the 2.7 TH/s)?  Or am I missing something here?  I see that the power usage is less than 2/3 (866W vs. 700w is about 81% of original), so the efficiency is corrected for the 2.7 TH/s to 0.25 J/GH.  Or do I have this wrong?

Also, when someone gets one, please post pics on how the PS bracket is attached to the S7 case?

I agree that something looks off. The website for this miner suggests that it's running at 700 MHz, then the figures don't work out right. It would be really attractive for somebody to get their hands on one and do a proper review. Maybe they got some overall power reduction in the fans, but that doesn't cover the hashrate and frequency discrepancy.
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2.7TH is dead on for 90 chips at 600MHz. Given that a lot of the listing looks like it was copied directly from an S7 page, saying 700MHz instead of 600MHz wouldn't be the only error in the info.

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Yesterday I received s7 silent. Chips frequency 600, temp 45/48 but I have cold room. Fan speeds 2700/3000 and I have to told you that is really silent.
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So, I bought one of these. Mostly because I want to play with volt adjusting and I actually have need of a beefy ATX PSU.

 That's what EVGA G2 1300s and Seasonic X1250s are for.

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 The listing error would be ... more than a bit in character for Bitmain on their S7 varients. Anyone put a wattmeter on one of these puppies yet to see what the REAL power draw looks like?


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     It looks to me that a clock at 540 vs 600  would really let fans run low. Hash would drop to 2490 vs 2770
  I wonder if sidehack could figure out a voltage drop for these.
 Remember how the s-1's could do  140gh at 170 watts  vs   200 gh at 400 watts  with a simple pencil mod.


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I don't need a PSU that beefy. Honestly a good 650 would do it, so a cheap 1000W is probably about right and I don't want to gut my Dragon.

I'm going to have a lot on my plate starting about Tuesday of this week and going through the forseeable future, but I'll probably still make sure to take a day and jack around with this miner as much as I can. The BM1385 should be capable of going below 0.2J/GH board-level.

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New S7-LN running

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Thanks for sharing interesting to see this out in the wild.  I would love to see more pictures of this miner.   Think you can get the front/back/sides with a camera and post in thread?  Either way thanks again for sharing.
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this miner looks like a nice one for office use.

set freq to 540  it will hash 2500gh  use just over 625 watts.  be quiet  .  looks like a good fit for some.

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I think somebody already figured out a way to undervolt these by doing a mod. It ran I think at 0.22w/ghs









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What are you waiting for? Pump it up to 700mhz
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What are you waiting for? Pump it up to 700mhz

It should do 700M no problem (doing 3.15 TH/s), but since the fans are only running at about 3,000rpm, it's not advisable.
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I recived my 3x S7 LN today
2 of them are working fine,
1 of them is not powering at all
Can anyone help me ?


I checked the power cord and it is working correctly on other PSU
I switched the PSU on first and then the JUMPER on
Miner not powering at all

Any advices ? WHat should I do ?

It's a brand new miner that I just recived a few mins and not working at all
I don't like this, and I don't want to send it back to warranty because it will cost me so much to ship and lose so much time

Later Edit : I was thinking that it could be only the PSU that is not working right ? Because if it was working fine it should have started even without the miner ?

Later Later Edit : Switched the PSu with one of mine and it is working
F*cking Bitmain send me an already burnt PSU
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I recived my 3x S7 LN today
2 of them are working fine,
1 of them is not powering at all
Can anyone help me ?


I checked the power cord and it is working correctly on other PSU
I switched the PSU on first and then the JUMPER on
Miner not powering at all

Any advices ? WHat should I do ?

It's a brand new miner that I just recived a few mins and not working at all
I don't like this, and I don't want to send it back to warranty because it will cost me so much to ship and lose so much time

Later Edit : I was thinking that it could be only the PSU that is not working right ? Because if it was working fine it should have started even without the miner ?

Later Later Edit : Switched the PSu with one of mine and it is working
F*cking Bitmain send me an already burnt PSU

honestly thats what you get for buying cheap chinese shit man
good for you, next time don't support a company that sends out garbage, and works to destroy BTC thru their mining practices.
good for anyone with shitty equipment from them
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honestly thats what you get for buying cheap chinese shit man
good for you, next time don't support a company that sends out garbage, and works to destroy BTC thru their mining practices.
good for anyone with shitty equipment from them


So who would you buy a state of the art Miner from?


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and they are not cheap at all ! in fact they are very expensive
they are just shitty
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Cheap can refer to price or build quality. Bitmain didn't used to sell either, but started going cheap on build quality with the S5.

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anyway, It later found out that it was only the bitmain jumper fault
I powered it up with the paper clip method.
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Just got word that my unit has shipped and should arrive Wednesday. Hopefully I can take some time in the short term to jack around with it. Might even see if there's a way to hack the PIC for voltage adjustment without requiring hardware changes.

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Just got word that my unit has shipped and should arrive Wednesday. Hopefully I can take some time in the short term to jack around with it. Might even see if there's a way to hack the PIC for voltage adjustment without requiring hardware changes.
   I just ordered one from HolyScott, I can't wait to see if you come up with a way to cool these down a bit more.
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I don't really have a timeline, unfortunately, given how full the plate is with manufacture, manufacture, manufacture and dev. But I'll do what I can.

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Could someone drop a video on youtube with one of these running in a room by itself?   My buddy wants to see how bad it is because he is considering ordering one.  He couldn't bear his S7, so I took it in for him for a profit split.

If possible to show an S7 running in the same room alone as well for comparison, that would be super =)

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I heard that the fans have a speed of ~3000rpm, so could it be like back in the Antminer S1, S3 -days?

edit: okay, good point Real-Duke

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I remember my S3 run mostly with around 1800rpm.
But indeed it would be nice to have a sound proof from the miner


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I remember my S3 run mostly with around 1800rpm.
But indeed it would be nice to have a sound proof from the miner
An S3 can be kept in the same room as you with no sound woes if the ambient temp in the room stays under 75-80*.   They are super quiet TBH....  But those are <= 2000RPM fans....

So it can't really be a basis of comparison IMHO =)  He is just curious if he will need to do any special soundproofing is he buys one.

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I've resisted buying one so far, but if these are quite like people are saying I might have to order one. 

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Why buy a miner that's going to be close to or totally UNprofitable in a month?

 Bitmain kinda shot themselves in the foot about these, didn't give themselves enough time to sell very many before they announced the S9.


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Why buy a miner that's going to be close to or totally UNprofitable in a month?

 Bitmain kinda shot themselves in the foot about these, didn't give themselves enough time to sell very many before they announced the S9.



I would love to see some more images and hear about sound level.  I'm thinking this could be more of a S3 replacement for those with "free" electricity that don't want a full bigger miner like S7/S7-F1.  Also does requires less electricity then regular S7, so again some market for it.   So i think there is a market for it, just smaller then S9.  

But once someone get's one I really hope we hear on sound level maybe even at a lesser freq and see how low it goes.
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3000rpm doesn't mean anything because the fans on the S1,S3 are different then the fans on the S5,S7.
The latter have some industrial type of delta fans and they were louder at 2500rpm, then the older fans at 3000rpm.

Only way to make this quiet is to undervolt and underclock.





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An S3 can be kept in the same room as you with no sound woes if the ambient temp in the room stays under 75-80*.   They are super quiet TBH....  But those are <= 2000RPM fans....

So it can't really be a basis of comparison IMHO =)  He is just curious if he will need to do any special soundproofing is he buys one.
To stay with the S3 together in the same room better solution is/was to replace the original fans with some Arctic silent fans and max 1500rpm
Like this I have had some in my living room as heater during winter months  Wink
Surely this couldn't be done with this new S7-LN....


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3,000 rpm on the S7 is noticeably less noisy, but will you be able to sleep with it in the same room.  NO.

Where are the additional pics. from those that received theirs already?  Would like to see more, like how the power supply bracket is attached and if there's anything in the 3rd blade location or is it just empty?
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3,000 rpm on the S7 is noticeably less noisy, but will you be able to sleep with it in the same room.  NO.

Where are the additional pics. from those that received theirs already?  Would like to see more, like how the power supply bracket is attached and if there's anything in the 3rd blade location or is it just empty?
3000RPM on the S7 and hashrate to 2.5Th... (have batch 6) and the miner is as loud as my PC with it's cooling fans full-tilt.... and its a dell Precision 690... Its not quiet.   But I myself an used to that sound in my room so to each their own I guess.

I have an S3 in my parents garage, and it does get loud when it gets heatsoaked.  Its higher in the rafters because that's the only location there's space, ethernet access and power.  So I can see how it would bother people and run high fan speed if trapped in your bedroom or livingroom.... But for the one in my living room, when its not at full fan speed, you hardly notice its there.  It only kicks up fan speed for a min or two every once in a while, or if I forget to leave a window open during the day.
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3000rpm doesn't mean anything because the fans on the S1,S3 are different then the fans on the S5,S7.
The latter have some industrial type of delta fans and they were louder at 2500rpm, then the older fans at 3000rpm.

Only way to make this quiet is to undervolt and underclock.

 S5 fans were a FFB or similar series Delta focused flow design in the 3800-4200 RPM range - NOT 3000 RPM or even all that close.
 I don't know what the S3 used, perhaps AFB series Deltas (which ARE quieter at the same RPM but don't handle backpressure very well comparatively)?


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3000rpm doesn't mean anything because the fans on the S1,S3 are different then the fans on the S5,S7.
The latter have some industrial type of delta fans and they were louder at 2500rpm, then the older fans at 3000rpm.

Only way to make this quiet is to undervolt and underclock.

 S5 fans were a FFB or similar series Delta focused flow design in the 3800-4200 RPM range - NOT 3000 RPM or even all that close.
 I don't know what the S3 used, perhaps AFB series Deltas (which ARE quieter at the same RPM but don't handle backpressure very well comparatively)?


They are very low RPM.  I never see more than 2500.

Silent at 1000-1500.

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Mine just arrived. Gonna have some fun with it, but first...






Can someone confirm if that's the S2 PSU? I only ever bought a kit new, which didn't have the PSU, and neither did the secondhand machine I picked up a long time later.

Nice to see they got taller heatsinks instead of just leaving voids. That's what I was worried about. Reckon the added surface area improves heat transfer to air for quieter fan speeds at the same frequency as a standard S7.

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It looks like the s2 psu to me.

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Whats about the noise he make? Btw great that somebody got one before the holidays  Cool


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June 08, 2016, 03:07:51 PM

5-minute average 2716GH, temps 46 and 49, fans at 2880. I'm not a good reference for "how loud is this" because I have a high tolerance for fan noise; slept near a computer for the last 15 years, heated my living room with A1 Dragons and underclocked S4 the last two winters, and my desk is about 40 feet from 100KW of hosted machines. But I will say, I can't even hear it running sitting next to the S4+ (...whose PWM lines were clipped so the fans are rolling 4KRPM).

Sometime I'll put it in a quiet room next to an S3 and see how it compares. But now that I know it works I think I'm gonna do some hacking.

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June 08, 2016, 03:13:13 PM

5-minute average 2716GH, temps 46 and 49, fans at 2880. I'm not a good reference for "how loud is