Who will be the next victim for Vitalik to dump his Ethereum IPO scamtokens on?

[Mastercon]

The Chinese got 30% of the Ethereum mining hash at the moment. Due to the cheap electricity price, it will rise again.

[Spoetnik]

The Chinese got 30% of the Ethereum mining hash at the moment. Due to the cheap electricity price, it will rise again.

What are the Chinese DOING with the ETH "Fuel tokens" ?
They must me be mining them for some reason right ?
Hmm i am perplexed !
I just can't seem to get a handle on this guys.. can you help me ?
It's a mystery people.. i will figure it out one day though, i swear !

LET'S MAKE BITCOINTALK GREAT AGAIN !

Let's ban all ICO's !

..or at least move them to the scam section where they belong.
They are not a currency so why are they even posted here ?

I also was curious what that guys comment has to do with the topic..
Was he / she implying something with the China comment ?

[Kysduckson]

The Chinese got 30% of the Ethereum mining hash at the moment. Due to the cheap electricity price, it will rise again.

What are the Chinese DOING with the ETH "Fuel tokens" ?
They must me be mining them for some reason right ?
Hmm i am perplexed !
I just can't seem to get a handle on this guys.. can you help me ?
It's a mystery people.. i will figure it out one day though, i swear !

LET'S MAKE BITCOINTALK GREAT AGAIN !

Let's ban all ICO's !

..or at least move them to the scam section where they belong.
They are not a currency so why are they even posted here ?

I also was curious what that guys comment has to do with the topic..
Was he / she implying something with the China comment ?

If you do not have any interest in the altcoin, you can just post in the bitcoin section and let others lose.

[RoommateAgreement]

there will always be so many victims who get fooled and buy into the pumps and get dumped on as soon as they buy and lose their money and give up trading after a while.

[Minecache]

The Chinese got 30% of the Ethereum mining hash at the moment. Due to the cheap electricity price, it will rise again.

What are the Chinese DOING with the ETH "Fuel tokens" ?
They must me be mining them for some reason right ?
Hmm i am perplexed !
I just can't seem to get a handle on this guys.. can you help me ?
It's a mystery people.. i will figure it out one day though, i swear !

LET'S MAKE BITCOINTALK GREAT AGAIN !

Let's ban all ICO's !

..or at least move them to the scam section where they belong.
They are not a currency so why are they even posted here ?

I also was curious what that guys comment has to do with the topic..
Was he / she implying something with the China comment ?

If you do not have any interest in the altcoin, you can just post in the bitcoin section and let others lose.

But his only interest is trolling.

[TrueAnon]

[Spoetnik]

Questions answered ? NONE.
I asked and was ignored then insulted.. as usual.

And no "ignore them" is a dumb reply sorry.

They are not currencies.. so quit calling them "Altcoins" (like you just did)
An Altcoin (to me anyway) is a currency.
So of it's not a currency then why is it posted here ?

I will tell you NOOBS who showed up after i did..
Because you all morphed this entire Altcoin scene into a giant scammy ICO scam fest
..for profit.

You leave !

When i showed up here i recall there being a level of class & integrity that was erased by scammy dregs.
You all showed up for no reason other than to find a way to profit Fiat or BTC from Altcoins.
While pretending you support Altcoins.. a crock of fucking shit !

Scammy shorted sighted idiocy like supporting Ethereum or way back Doge coin is pathetic.
How many of you use either for the intended purpose they were made and not for Poloniex trading ?

You are full of shit guys.
You flap your gums but it's all bullshit designed to lure in potential victims.
Nothing but a bunch of Crypto-Pedo's grooming their victims at 'The talk

Don't like my comment ?
Go make an ICO scheme coin about it..

I am here telling you what the world see's here kidiots.
I am the one telling you why World participation is non-existent.
I am the one who posted the (SEC) Crypto-Currency Investor Fraud Alert Warning
..that mentions this forum.

Don't agree with me ?
The fucking world does !

..or they would be here involved yet they tell me face to face this shit is scammy.
As it gets worse day by day..

Who agrees with me ?

THE FUCKING -SEC- DOES SCAMMY ICO ASSHOLES !

Know who that is little blow hard's ?

https://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf

[Osinarad]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

[Febo]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

Done long ago. 115 millions ETC was traded already.

[Technicrate]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

Done long ago. 115 millions ETC was traded already.

If you can extend that logic, then all the premined ETH have changes hands. No original owners own that.

[Mastercon]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

Done long ago. 115 millions ETC was traded already.

If you can extend that logic, then all the premined ETH have changes hands. No original owners own that.

There is a possibility that some of  the original Ethereum owners still have the ETC, they might dump them.

[dinofelis]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

Done long ago. 115 millions ETC was traded already.

If you can extend that logic, then all the premined ETH have changes hands. No original owners own that.

Of course not.  Given the uncertain future, best is to hedge ETH with ETC.  Ideally, you should put equal value in both if you are totally unsure about which one will "win" (if any), which means that you should trade about 3/8 of your ETH holdings for ETC.  (assuming that the ETC price is about 1/8 of the ETH price).  In that case, you already had 1/8 of your value in ETC and 7/8 in ETH, and you're adding 3/8 to it (while losing 3/8 of ETH), so that you obtain 4/8 of your value in ETH and 4/8 of your value in ETC.

That would be the "maximum entropy" hedge, if you are totally ignorant about their future rise or fall in value.

In reality people seem to make another estimation (give it a higher chance that, say, ETH will double, rather than that ETC will double) and hence assign a different ratio to their wallets.  This is essentially what their market price ratio indicates.  There are probably people not hedging at all, and purely holding ETH (or purely holding ETC), but I guess most will hedge some.

[raphma]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

he dumped eth and he will hold ETC 

[sanas]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

he dumped eth and he will hold ETC 

i think there will be coordinated dump of the ETC in the next few weeks to finish off the Ethereum Classic.

[FruitBucket]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

he dumped eth and he will hold ETC 

i think there will be coordinated dump of the ETC in the next few weeks to finish off the Ethereum Classic.

The dump of the ETC will not kill the ETC. There will be some coordinated 51% attack on the ETC.

[Sniper44]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

he dumped eth and he will hold ETC 

i think there will be coordinated dump of the ETC in the next few weeks to finish off the Ethereum Classic.

The dump of the ETC will not kill the ETC. There will be some coordinated 51% attack on the ETC.

they both will die eventually some day so there is no reason why not because it is bad with a lot of peoblems.

but as of today, ETC is the big deal because it is growing and the trade volume shows that whales are showing a big favor towards ETC for now.

[sanas]

Do you think it is possible for the Vitalik to dump his ETC to the people who want to keep the ETC?

he dumped eth and he will hold ETC 

i think there will be coordinated dump of the ETC in the next few weeks to finish off the Ethereum Classic.

The dump of the ETC will not kill the ETC. There will be some coordinated 51% attack on the ETC.

they both will die eventually some day so there is no reason why not because it is bad with a lot of peoblems.

but as of today, ETC is the big deal because it is growing and the trade volume shows that whales are showing a big favor towards ETC for now.

When the ETC price is $10 or more, we can say it will replace the ETH. Now, it is just $1, it is vulnerable.

[Azael]

Vitalik is not a scammer. And you really destroy the word 'scam' to mean literally everything in crypto.


However I do believe Vitalik is controlled by people around him and these people do not have pure intentions in the sense of developing good crypto.

[dinofelis]

The dump of the ETC will not kill the ETC. There will be some coordinated 51% attack on the ETC.

A 51% attack only rolls back a chain for so long as one sustains the 51% hash rate.  It is a good trick to do a few temporary double spends.  If you want to kill a chain permanently, you have to sustain the 51% hash rate.  That's quite an investment in vandalism, and moreover, you will probably be recognized (IP address launching all the false blocks).

I really doubt that anyone in his right mind is going to do so.  It is not happening with crypto that have the same PoW function and wildly different hash rates, so why should this happen to ETC ?   

[dinofelis]

When the ETC price is $10 or more, we can say it will replace the ETH. Now, it is just $1, it is vulnerable.

When ETH has lowered to $2, too :-)

I don't see any significant long term driving force behind ETC/ETH.  It was the promise of complex smart contracts, but that's over now.  What else can ETC/ETH offer ?