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Question: Should Monero relaunch with an ICO?  (Voting closed: May 13, 2017, 07:04:02 PM)
Yes - 14 (14.6%)
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Perhaps - 1 (1%)
I don't care - 9 (9.4%)
Monero is dead - 36 (37.5%)
That poll is stupid - 15 (15.6%)
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May 25, 2016, 08:43:38 AM
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John Connors Accusation:
I discovered 13 ZeroDay's in Monero source code and exploited the v2 block bug that split the network consensus. The remaining 12 I'm keeping in my back pocket so next time they piss me off again or attempt a DoS. Wink

John Connors Proof of his accusation:
People should check this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233817.0 before voting. Cool



Pathetic...

What's pathetic is your sad attempt at fud when your coin's a complete mess. Anyone else smell the desperation because I can.  Roll Eyes     

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May 25, 2016, 08:48:04 AM
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What's pathetic is your sad attempt at fud when your coin's a complete mess. Anyone else smell the desperation because I can.  Roll Eyes     

Where do I FUD?
definition: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

I'm just calling out John Connor on his lies:
definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie

I can smell your bullshitstories for sure, you're unworthy of a normal discussion...

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May 25, 2016, 08:52:21 AM
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Lol look at the vote. Cheesy This forum sees through your shenanigans and antics that's probably why your coin is dying. I would be very wary of owning monero at this point. Just look at the blatant complete disregard at the vulnerabilities found. No one wants to be part of that. For anyone who is, good luck with your sinking ship with capt. Risto at the helm.    

    

To keep you on your vcash sockpuppet words ...

Yours truly master john-connor DID NOT EVEN NAME ONE VULNERABILITY!!!
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May 25, 2016, 11:02:03 AM
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Lol look at the vote. Cheesy This forum sees through your shenanigans and antics that's probably why your coin is dying. I would be very wary of owning monero at this point. Just look at the blatant complete disregard at the vulnerabilities found. No one wants to be part of that. For anyone who is, good luck with your sinking ship with capt. Risto at the helm.    

    

To keep you on your vcash sockpuppet words ...

Yours truly master john-connor DID NOT EVEN NAME ONE VULNERABILITY!!!

yes he didn`t .....and he shouldn`t ..at least not for free just my 2 Vcash...cheers Cheesy Cheesy
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May 25, 2016, 11:31:58 AM
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Lol look at the vote. Cheesy This forum sees through your shenanigans and antics that's probably why your coin is dying. I would be very wary of owning monero at this point. Just look at the blatant complete disregard at the vulnerabilities found. No one wants to be part of that. For anyone who is, good luck with your sinking ship with capt. Risto at the helm.    

    

To keep you on your vcash sockpuppet words ...

Yours truly master john-connor DID NOT EVEN NAME ONE VULNERABILITY!!!

yes he didn`t .....and he shouldn`t ..at least not for free just my 2 Vcash...cheers Cheesy Cheesy

I'm personally offering 500k XMR for all 12 of the exploits.

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May 25, 2016, 11:47:33 AM
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Lol look at the vote. Cheesy This forum sees through your shenanigans and antics that's probably why your coin is dying. I would be very wary of owning monero at this point. Just look at the blatant complete disregard at the vulnerabilities found. No one wants to be part of that. For anyone who is, good luck with your sinking ship with capt. Risto at the helm.    

    

To keep you on your vcash sockpuppet words ...

Yours truly master john-connor DID NOT EVEN NAME ONE VULNERABILITY!!!

yes he didn`t .....and he shouldn`t ..at least not for free just my 2 Vcash...cheers Cheesy Cheesy

I'm personally offering 500k XMR for all 12 of the exploits.

Ok can u plz link to escrow proof that the funds r secured?

~CfA~

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May 25, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
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Lol look at the vote. Cheesy This forum sees through your shenanigans and antics that's probably why your coin is dying. I would be very wary of owning monero at this point. Just look at the blatant complete disregard at the vulnerabilities found. No one wants to be part of that. For anyone who is, good luck with your sinking ship with capt. Risto at the helm.    

    

To keep you on your vcash sockpuppet words ...

Yours truly master john-connor DID NOT EVEN NAME ONE VULNERABILITY!!!

yes he didn`t .....and he shouldn`t ..at least not for free just my 2 Vcash...cheers Cheesy Cheesy

You're as dumb as him if you don't get the situation.

--If he can't deliver at least one exploit, he looks like a liar.

--If he does deliver at least one exploit, he'll gain HUGE reputation and probably some market cap.

--So given that he has claimed 12, revealing at least one is the best option and an easy one to make at that--now, if he had only said one or two, then your argument makes more sense.

My guess is you and the rest of the V-cards will have to live with option A and try defend an unenviable position. As the saying goes, "It's better to have smart enemies than dumb friends."


My guess is he is praying someone who is smarter than him will give him an exploit so he can take credit for it--similar to what he did with his lack of attributions for Satoshi's code.

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May 25, 2016, 01:19:46 PM
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simple math here    13-1=12  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1473091.msg14869453#msg14869453
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May 25, 2016, 02:12:19 PM
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12 + never happened, still equals 12.

But ATM he has a stage and an audience and a stated 1 of 12 exploits to pick from....any day now....

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May 25, 2016, 02:27:15 PM
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12 + never happened, still equals 12.

But ATM he has a stage and an audience and a stated 1 of 12 exploits to pick from....any day now....

you mean like
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May 25, 2016, 02:40:24 PM
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12 + never happened, still equals 12.

But ATM he has a stage and an audience and a stated 1 of 12 exploits to pick from....any day now....

Never happened??



Who''s lying?
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May 25, 2016, 02:43:10 PM
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Never happened??

https://i.imgur.com/wHVlCK8.jpg

Who's lying?

LMAO... and the Monero gang was busted once again.


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May 25, 2016, 03:29:21 PM
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Never happened??

https://i.imgur.com/wHVlCK8.jpg

Who's lying?

LMAO... and the Monero gang was busted once again.



Niggling over how to define an exploit after the exploit is known isn't discovering a bug no one knew about. So you can try again with one of the 12 Mr. Connor claims to have found all on his own--like a big boy.

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May 25, 2016, 07:26:09 PM
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Never happened??

https://i.imgur.com/wHVlCK8.jpg

Who's lying?

LMAO... and the Monero gang was busted once again.



Niggling over how to define an exploit after the exploit is known isn't discovering a bug no one knew about. So you can try again with one of the 12 Mr. Connor claims to have found all on his own--like a big boy.


Well to put this argument into perspective, John-Connor was the first person on January 15th (check the twitter feed) to correctly point out that the flaw was in fact a zeroday exploit and not a DOS attack like the devs of monero were calling it on January 15th...  the fact that he outed himself out as the person who exploited the XMR code to force the event solidifies that he knows a lot about the cryptonote codebase.

whether or not he has 12 more that he can exploit as well is another question, but I would be careful how far you take this flame war.

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May 25, 2016, 07:28:53 PM
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I totally agree with an ICO, so they got money to buy the 12 exploits in darknet  Grin
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May 25, 2016, 07:42:15 PM
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Never happened??

https://i.imgur.com/wHVlCK8.jpg

Who's lying?

LMAO... and the Monero gang was busted once again.



Niggling over how to define an exploit after the exploit is known isn't discovering a bug no one knew about. So you can try again with one of the 12 Mr. Connor claims to have found all on his own--like a big boy.


Well to put this argument into perspective, John-Connor was the first person on January 15th (check the twitter feed) to correctly point out that the flaw was in fact a zeroday exploit and not a DOS attack like the devs of monero were calling it on January 15th...  the fact that he outed himself out as the person who exploited the XMR code to force the event solidifies that he knows a lot about the cryptonote codebase.

whether or not he has 12 more that he can exploit as well is another question, but I would be careful how far you take this flame war.

I wouldn't. Threats are a cheap form of psychological warfare and Mr. Connor seemed quite in your face back then, but seems less than eager to do or prove anything today. Instead he hides behind a few shills (or possibly sock-puppet accounts) after running off. Either prove it or stfu.

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May 25, 2016, 08:18:27 PM
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12 + never happened, still equals 12.

But ATM he has a stage and an audience and a stated 1 of 12 exploits to pick from....any day now....

Never happened??

https://i.imgur.com/wHVlCK8.jpg

That tweet is the next day after the bug was already publicly known. I proves nothing about john-connor's claims.

I asked for a him to show a link to a tweet (not a screenshot) with a timestamp prior to the bug being publicly known, proving his knowledge as he claimed could be done via twitter, and got crickets. I'm still waiting.

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Well to put this argument into perspective, John-Connor was the first person on January 15th (check the twitter feed) to correctly point out that the flaw was in fact a zeroday exploit and not a DOS attack like the devs of monero were calling it on January 15th...me war.

Are you lying too or just incredibly retarded? Denial of service (DOS) is a type of attack that can, under the right circumstances, be performed using an exploit. They are two words for (or two aspects of) the exact same thing.

If the attack had progressed to the point where funds were lost, or information were improperly disclosed (not applicable in this case) then it could be called something other than a DoS. In reality the only impact of the attack was that some exchanges suspended service (i.e. denial of service) until it was patched. There was not even a persistent chain fork because hash rate accepting the invalid block was below 50%.

tldr: there was a bug that allowed someone to propagate an invalid block, indirectly denying service for a short time. The Monero team discovered the attack, diagnosed the cause (with no assistance from john-conner or anyone else outside the team, though genuine assistance is certainly always appreciated), and released a fix before any serious harm occurred, and john-connor tried to take credit for it with no verifiable evidence whatsoever.
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May 25, 2016, 08:30:19 PM
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12 + never happened, still equals 12.

But ATM he has a stage and an audience and a stated 1 of 12 exploits to pick from....any day now....

Never happened??

https://i.imgur.com/wHVlCK8.jpg

That tweet is the next day after the bug was already publicly known. I proves nothing about john-connor's claims.

I asked for a him to show a link to a tweet (not a screenshot) with a timestamp prior to the bug being publicly known, proving his knowledge as he claimed could be done via twitter, and got crickets. I'm still waiting.

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Monero devs sold it as an attack at the time, John was the one pointing out it was an exploit. There's a difference.. anybody is free to look it up on Twitter themselves, so i really don't care for your troll games smooth Smiley
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May 25, 2016, 08:58:26 PM
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i really don't care for your troll games smooth Smiley

Seems like one of smooth's troll games got officially removed today:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484321.0

LoL

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May 25, 2016, 09:00:23 PM
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12 + never happened, still equals 12.

But ATM he has a stage and an audience and a stated 1 of 12 exploits to pick from....any day now....

Never happened??

https://i.imgur.com/wHVlCK8.jpg

That tweet is the next day after the bug was already publicly known. I proves nothing about john-connor's claims.

I asked for a him to show a link to a tweet (not a screenshot) with a timestamp prior to the bug being publicly known, proving his knowledge as he claimed could be done via twitter, and got crickets. I'm still waiting.

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Monero devs sold it as an attack at the time, John was the one pointing out it was an exploit. There's a difference.. anybody is free to look it up on Twitter themselves, so i really don't care for your troll games smooth Smiley

There is no difference and furthermore the official announcement posted prior to any tweets from him I can find, clearly stated there as an ommitted check error in the code (i.e. exploit) so you are still lying.

I'm still waiting for tweet timestamps proving his involvement (i.e. not after a public announcement) as he claimed and challenged us to debunk. Until he provides a link to such a tweet, he is debunked, but then let's face it, he was debunked as soon as it was discovered he ripped off the Bitcoin code and lied about writing it from scratch and claimed a lot of other delusional nonsense.
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