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[ysell]

i think at the start there should only 3 coins added:
BTC (most known, but slow as fk) ,
LTC (second oldest succsessful way faster)
ETH newcomer but already traded on many Exchanges.

Coinmarketcap is not a very unbiased indicator* so i made a research on how many exchanges the coins are traded and how the moneyflow
is distributed on all exchanges where the coin is traded. *some coins in the Top10 have only 1-3 exchanges with massive volume,
but imaginge if that exchange vanishes (hack,fraud,gov regulation fail,DDOS) like MtGox.Cryptsy and so on. The The coin will drop instant out
of the Top ten. So here is my research:



i think monero should not be added at the start since it will give them a feature "for free".
Give me some counter arguments to that statement pls

does anyone know if Digibyte of bytecoin have some "anon" features?

I have used exchanged.i2p and thought it was pretty good. There are some improvements that could be made, but considering it's up and running already it would be great to continue using it. Personally I don't think it's a good idea to single out competitive currency as it removes portability for those interested in crossing over from inferior privacy tech like zcash.

Cryptoslave : I don't know if this has already been considered but could we possibly fork the zcoin project and bolt on the i2p infrastructure afterwards,  saving time trying to integrate zcoin code into existing Anoncoin code?

The fact that Meeh is still working on i2p integrations for other coins means he would be the man for this job. I tried to contact Meeh last night, but he wasn't around.

What do you think Cryptoslave?

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[machico]

CS - Does anoncoin own the anonexchange.com domain?

[machico]

i think at the start there should only 3 coins added:
BTC (most known, but slow as fk) ,
LTC (second oldest succsessful way faster)
ETH newcomer but already traded on many Exchanges.

Coinmarketcap is not a very unbiased indicator* so i made a research on how many exchanges the coins are traded and how the moneyflow
is distributed on all exchanges where the coin is traded. *some coins in the Top10 have only 1-3 exchanges with massive volume,
but imaginge if that exchange vanishes (hack,fraud,gov regulation fail,DDOS) like MtGox.Cryptsy and so on. The The coin will drop instant out
of the Top ten. So here is my research:



i think monero should not be added at the start since it will give them a feature "for free".
Give me some counter arguments to that statement pls

does anyone know if Digibyte of bytecoin have some "anon" features?

I have used exchanged.i2p and thought it was pretty good. There are some improvements that could be made, but considering it's up and running already it would be great to continue using it. Personally I don't think it's a good idea to single out competitive currency as it removes portability for those interested in crossing over from inferior privacy tech like zcash.

Cryptoslave : I don't know if this has already been considered but could we possibly fork the zcoin project and bolt on the i2p infrastructure afterwards,  saving time trying to integrate zcoin code into existing Anoncoin code?

The fact that Meeh is still working on i2p integrations for other coins means he would be the man for this job. I tried to contact Meeh last night, but he wasn't around.

What do you think Cryptoslave?

Very interesting article. Bitcoin is now only 47% of the altcoin market.

http://www.visualcapitalist.com/chart-coin-universe-keeps-expanding/

[X68N]

my opinion is i did  like the altcoins from the start on more than BTC.
Today i dislike BTC even more than in the past because
- its slow af (i have 40 min transfertime)
- transfers can get stuck when you send with the wrong "fee/byte"-rate which is fucked up because the fee is flexible as i understand
  and if the fee is rising slowly your transaction will stuck, For me one needed ~20 hours! But it can get much worse see
  https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
- Bitcoin was propagated as alternative to the Banks with their high fees but now bitcoin fees become expensive themselves!
- Bitcoin as liberation from the Central Bank authority but these days bitcoin it self is not decentral but instead controled by a handful of  
   people  with the private keys to change the code.
- The Client needs 6-10 days to download and ~125GB Harddisk (Litecoin needs only 8GB even with a much faster Blocktime)
- only 4 connections on average (ANCi2p has 18 lol)

Overall its bulky and there are better coins aviable.
The only thing positive for me about BTC is the high price

Also 1 currency only  is unnatural, competition in the free market brings evoloution.

[ysell]

After all the Windows based issues in the news regarding hacking. A more secure Linux wallet would be ideal. I've created this tutorial in making a portable, wallet, with a flash drive bootable Linux OS. I've tested it thoroughly and see no issues with it. Please give me feedback http://www.docomputing.co.uk/running-the-anoncoin-wallet-on-a-flash-drive-usb/index.html

It's a super fast wallet, i2p and Operating system and the great thing is you can set it up as cold storage. Exposing your wallet to limited Internet time reduces the possibility of hacking. Going to ask the development team if they want to include my version on the Wiki.

Next job is to get zerocoin configured. Going to check over the existing zerocoin code in the next few weeks and see what can be done. If there's any developers not on irc2p that want to contribute, please get on irc2p and let the team know if you're available to contribute.

Machico, could you please give me your thoughts on crowd funding. I will ask the developers what they think a fair price for creating a zerocoin solution would be. I was thinking if the crowd funding  price was high enough, it would gain more interest, and possibly lead to greater PR, an attractive solution  for new developers etc. If we propose a complete zerocoin solution rather than broken down deliverables it may incourage a team of developers to get involved, work together and they can then divide the proceeds between themselves once a zerocoin solution has been established. What do you and X68N think?

[ysell]

Interesting... this thread has woken up and also cryptopia seems to be recovering in terms of volume and price

Meeh has done some amazing work on i2p recently and the encrypted Internet traffic is having negligible impact on performance. A year ago, the extra load was definitely noticeable. Now I'm continually checking to see if i2p is active because it's so fast. There is more interest in i2p cryptocurrency now as it is performing better. There are worldwide political and economic reasons why coins such as Anoncoin are becoming more saught after.

[Cryptoslave]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

[Cryptoslave]

(...)
Your questions
A) The starting 3 years of mining coins was producing a 10% income for developers. This is bound to stifle innovation and development after the 3 year period. Personally I see crowd funding as the best option. Payment can be made in FIAT or Bitcoin as there are not enough Anoncoin mining to continue the ICO type scenario
(...)

Just as a side note, I would suggest developers of zerocoin buy large amounts of ANC in order that when they complete the crowd funding project, they receive a double whammy of finance as their ANC holdings increase and they receive a payout from the crowd funding.

Just to clarify, there was not a premine of 10% or anything on Anoncoin. At launch Meeh mined 1000 block (0.14% of a total of 3100000) before sharing the chain in public, for testing purpose, and he gave them back to the community via donation thread and faucet. I know it has a fact because he gave to me my first 150 ANC this way (100 on forum and 50 in I2P chat).

Premine: 1000 blocks (4200 ANC) that were returned to the community by community donations and a public faucet.  

Other than that there was absolutely no premine you can check the ANC source code on github.

[X68N]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

[AmoreJaz]

This coin was one of my first scrypt coins i mined . and i always loved it! like every coin it has seen its ups and downs but by god it is still here and doing pretty damn GOOD, The Devs job is not a easy one so a big" ANC BRAVO" to the Devs

P.S.  i was actively mining it already for a while before ANC  actually sponsored the mining pool Cryptotroll... for the nostalgia of things .... lol great memories!!!!

[machico]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

I think I have a solution to help you CS. Why don't you provide your yobit ZEC address here and we can join together and do some mining directly to your account until you get to 0.1BTC. I have no BTC. All my coins are in other currencies. 

[machico]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

I think I have a solution to help you CS. Why don't you provide your yobit ZEC address here and we can join together and do some mining directly to your account until you get to 0.1BTC. I have no BTC. All my coins are in other currencies.  

Can people interested in helping say so here.

http://zcash.flypool.org is pretty good and pays when one reaches 0.01 ZEC (0.00106789 BTC)

[Cryptoslave]

@Cryptoslave i send you the 0.01 btc , for the (yobit 0.1 btc target fee listing) to : 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE
and linked the main thread to your post.

who is in charge of the twitter  account i saw that there are 1200 followers, a tweet for the yobit crowdfunding would be helpfull

Thank you X68N, you are the only one interested in yobit fund it seems... as you were the only donator! I will complete the form in a couple of days and we will get listed on yobit

CS

well isn't it possible to use the twitter account of anoncoin to ask for donations?
i mean its not much money. Maybe the crowdfunding time is too short?,
i reminded the main thread once a gain i hope there will be some more donators, i mean to donate 0,01btc should be possible for a lot of people here

i have a funny idea, if Yobit adds ANC i would inform BTC38 they should hurry up because there is a new competionion Market.
Maybe that speeds up their actions.

I think I have a solution to help you CS. Why don't you provide your yobit ZEC address here and we can join together and do some mining directly to your account until you get to 0.1BTC. I have no BTC. All my coins are in other currencies.  

Can people interested in helping say so here.

http://zcash.flypool.org is pretty good and pays when one reaches 0.01 ZEC (0.00106789 BTC)

Good idea!

I do not own BTC myself neither, this is why I shall buy new ones before sending to yobit, hence the delay of a few days to get money.

Here is the Zec address yobit generated for my account: t1Zh5RmUrsW1HMTyf7bnkRNuEw6WcSpjpyG

Otherwise the btc address is still valid 1PkKCC6ogaSJGig27hapf9kD3XtgXy4LYE

Thanks to all miners and donators!

As said, we never owned anoncoin twitter account, they were from community members, now they do not follow anoncoin anymore it seems. I have the @cryptoslave twitter account but not a lot of followers and I do not know how many are interested in Anoncoin or in my random tweets

[X68N]

and who is in charge for the website?

[kreatoralex]

I synchronize my wallet, but for several hours everything is in place. Can I somehow speed it up?

[ysell]

I synchronize my wallet, but for several hours everything is in place. Can I somehow speed it up?

Download the bootstrap file

Then download the bootsrap file to speed up the build of the blockchain

Follow instructions here

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_use_a_bootstrap_file_to_speed_up_initial_synchronization#For_Linux_users

Then after carrying out the above carry out the following

Go to download area where the bootstrap download is

Unzip it

Then copy the contents of the bootstrap folder to the ~/.Anoncoin directory 

[huxdy]

I'm glad to see that you are still trying to revive ANC. All my coins are in BTC38. If them open the recharge, I would like to donate 500ANC

[K1773R]

I synchronize my wallet, but for several hours everything is in place. Can I somehow speed it up?

you only use clearnet, your own fault!

[Cryptoslave]

I'm glad to see that you are still trying to revive ANC. All my coins are in BTC38. If them open the recharge, I would like to donate 500ANC

Hi,

so what is the situation there on BTC38? cannot you withdraw at least? I thought only deposit did not work

I am doing the yobit application now, with the help of 0.01 btc from donation. In about a week we will see if they add Anoncoin. Meanwhile exchanged.i2p is down for maintenance (Abyss told me he will be back up soon), a new i2p service like shapeshift is in process to be build, and Nova exchange is the only exchange right now.

Thank you for your donation proposal, we can discuss that when the crowdfund is set up by our fellow members.

CS

[machico]

Hi all,

I will start putting together some ideas and structure for the crowdfunding. Ysell was able to speak with some developers and was given $20k as a target. If we are trying to raise money this way, we need a fully costed project that will integrate zerocoin including a revenue stream to pay for continuous development. Suggestions on what we should target? We don't need to reach the objective to get what we have raised.

The first thing we need is for the community to donate some ANC's to give away to the crowdfunding donors as a thank you. If the crowdfunding doesn't go ahead, donations will be returned. CS, can you please co-ordinate ANC donations and then send it to the crowdfunding donors? I was thinking we could give 1 ANC as a gesture of gratitude per donation. Any suggestions?

Finally, we need ideas for making money after zerocoin has been fully integrated to pay for continuous development. The initial idea was to try a second crowdfunding for an exchange and give away some of the equity to donors. Ysell suggested we raise money via transaction fees which could also work as well. Any suggestions?