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May 27, 2016, 07:24:41 PM
Last edit: May 30, 2016, 02:06:09 PM by Bimmerhead
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Has anyone done a review of all the ICOs over the last couple years?

It would be interesting to see what price the ICO sold at, what the coin closed at on its first day of trading, highs and lows since then, and what that coin is worth today.

I think the first ICO was Maidsafe back in April 2014, but I might be wrong.

If this hasn't been done, maybe we could crowdsource the data. If anyone is interested I'll setup a Google sheet for this.


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data tracking here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p7sJflgEXYp9VbgJVgsIXG08MLBw2iNPT-PO3GtEgEU/edit?usp=sharing
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May 27, 2016, 07:36:13 PM
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Has anyone done a review of all the ICOs over the last couple years?

It would be interesting to see what price the ICO sold at, what the coin closed at on its first day of trading, highs and lows since then, and what that coin is worth today.

I think the first ICO was Maidsafe back in April 2014, but I might be wrong.

If this hasn't been done, maybe we could crowdsource the data. If anyone is interested I'll setup a Google sheet for this.

i found this list. this can be used to find out more. answers to your questions.

http://www.ofnumbers.com/2015/01/06/18-months-of-token-presales-a-review/

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Below are a bakers dozen projects undertaken in the past 18 months that used some form of crowdsale (ICO, ITO):

Mastercoin raised 4,740 BTC in August 2013
NXT raised 21 BTC in November 2013
Maidsafe raised 7,368 BTC and “95,000 MSC” / BitAngels ‘loan’ in April 2014
Swarm raised 1,252 BTC in June 2014
Bitshares AGS raised 5,621 BTC and 415k Protoshares in July 2014
Viacoin raised 610 BTC in July 2014
Ethereum raised 31,529 BTC in August 2014
StorJ raised 910 BTC in August 2014
SuperNET raised 1,201 BTC and “4,536 BTC equivalent” in Sept 2014
Peertracks (Bitshares music) raised ~1,436 BTC in November 2014
Bitbay raised 5,000 BTC in November 2014
Ziftr raised around “2,000” BTC (more than $650k) in Dec 2014
Gems raised 2,600 BTC in Dec 2014
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May 27, 2016, 07:42:51 PM
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Thanks for the list vlom, that's a good start for my study.
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May 27, 2016, 07:51:55 PM
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Thanks for the list vlom, that's a good start for my study.

Please share this, I'm too lazy to get into this the right way myself. I've always wondered if the ones that surge initially before the price corrects, were profitable to the earliest adopters. I've seen some tank out the gate, but statistically, if you throw money at all of these, do they tend to proc more than fail? Would you be net profitable by trying a little of each of the promising ones, or is the overall loss from the dead ducks too much?
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May 27, 2016, 07:54:04 PM
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Gems
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0
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crowdsale (GetGems Sale Closes With 38,135,367 GEMZ sold)  
GetGems sale has successfully raised $780K (2,633 BTC) during the token sale.

ICO-Price: 2'633/38'135'367=0.00006904 BTC

closed at on its first day of trading:

highs and lows since then:

 what that coin is worth today: 0.00000312 BTC (@27.05.2016)
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May 27, 2016, 07:56:57 PM
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Feel free to add data to my spreadsheet here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p7sJflgEXYp9VbgJVgsIXG08MLBw2iNPT-PO3GtEgEU/edit?usp=sharing
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May 27, 2016, 08:04:39 PM
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i do not have an account @google  Tongue
that why i can't use the sheet actively.

btw i made a mistake: gems ico-prise was wrong. now it should be OK.

to find out about the price after the first day of trading i not that easy...
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May 27, 2016, 08:08:57 PM
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Thanks vlom. Are you at least able to view the sheet?
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May 27, 2016, 08:14:01 PM
Last edit: May 27, 2016, 08:33:46 PM by vlom
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Thanks vlom. Are you at least able to view the sheet?

yes, i am.

i will collect infos of LISK-ICO and post it here.


85,000,000 LISK for ICO participants.

Amount Raised: The Lisk ICO has now ended with a total of 14,009 BTC and 80 million XCR exchanged! (the XCR had a fixed value for ICO

Date of ICO: Feb. to March 2016

ICO Price in BTC: Lisk price in satoshi : 0.00018265 (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg14269645#msg14269645)

Exchange Debut: May 25 2016

Price at Close of Trading on First Day: about 0.0012 (after 24 hours of trading @polo / 26.05.2016 23:30).

Price May 27/16: 0.00075979
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May 29, 2016, 01:30:03 PM
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Gems
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.0
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crowdsale (GetGems Sale Closes With 38,135,367 GEMZ sold)  
GetGems sale has successfully raised $780K (2,633 BTC) during the token sale.

ICO-Price: 2'633/38'135'367=0.00006904 BTC

closed at on its first day of trading:

highs and lows since then:

 what that coin is worth today: 0.00000312 BTC (@27.05.2016)

On the spreadsheet, Gems should be called Getgems, and their website is Getgems.org

Their token is called Gemz, and the ICO price at launch was close to 5800 sat, and increased thereafter until the end of the ICO period.

On May 23, 2016, Poloniex announced they were delisting Gemz on June 3rd.

Hope that helps.
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May 30, 2016, 03:56:22 AM
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Problem is that only a few ICOs are successful and most of the rest are scams.

It is a good idea to study them one by one. With better study, we can know better why some succeed and others failed.
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May 30, 2016, 07:46:45 AM
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Retards.. learn what a Pyramid scheme scam is.

Analyzing your scam schemes for profits is a fucking gay retarded joke.
..at least to anyone with half a fucking brain.

How many times can a huge amount of reasons be explained until you scammers get it ?
What part don't you get ? ..let me know i can help you out by explaining it AGAIN.

You might as well have posted a topic called "Nigerian Scam performance study"

Reality Check time dumb fuck greedy profiteers..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam

See ICO in that list ?

No ?

Then read the SEC's fraud scam warning issued Dec 4th 2015 by the US govt.
https://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf

Know who the SEC is morons ?
Guess what they govern ?
Seriously take a wild guess idiots.. i'll wait.


PS:
They mentioned Bitcointalk in the PDF "Investor Warning" about shit coins AKA: Virtual Currencies

You shit heads are nothing but crypto digital ponzi NIGERIAN SCAMMERS pushing Pyramid schemes.

idiots  Roll Eyes

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May 30, 2016, 01:31:03 PM
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Retards.. learn what a Pyramid scheme scam is.

Analyzing your scam schemes for profits is a fucking gay retarded joke.
..at least to anyone with half a fucking brain.

How many times can a huge amount of reasons be explained until you scammers get it ?
What part don't you get ? ..let me know i can help you out by explaining it AGAIN.

You might as well have posted a topic called "Nigerian Scam performance study"

Reality Check time dumb fuck greedy profiteers..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam

See ICO in that list ?

No ?

Then read the SEC's fraud scam warning issued Dec 4th 2015 by the US govt.
https://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf

Know who the SEC is morons ?
Guess what they govern ?
Seriously take a wild guess idiots.. i'll wait.


PS:
They mentioned Bitcointalk in the PDF "Investor Warning" about shit coins AKA: Virtual Currencies

You shit heads are nothing but crypto digital ponzi NIGERIAN SCAMMERS pushing Pyramid schemes.

idiots  Roll Eyes

Not sure if joking? Nice Trust rating.

The point of looking at the performance of ICOs is to determine if they are good or bad investments. Seems this makes more sense than listening to some bitcoin-latecomer who just spews foul-mouthed rants in what may or may not be an attempt to talk down ICO prices.
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May 30, 2016, 02:01:27 PM
Last edit: May 30, 2016, 02:24:28 PM by BitcoinNational
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vlom's list is damning evidence of the coming future for this weeks ICO hotcakes ...

Sure there needs to be venture capital (seed funding) to make the New New but until there are systems of account (and escrow officers signing off on expenditures) ... it just going to be more of the same old same old ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam and Spoets screaming told you so!

With the shitcoins, at least there is a network.  But these assets have less worth than fiat paper, cuz theys is not even paper.  Vaporware is even worse, NXT started in 2014 and has an ETA of 2018 before it works as promised, hell at least their honest in the timeframe projections ... LSK, ETH might be stable platforms for the average yahoos come 2021 Wink

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Problem is that only a few ICOs are successful and most of the rest are scams.
It is a good idea to study them one by one. With better study, we can know better why some succeed and others failed.

speaking of Lucky7  Roll Eyes

name one successful ICO
name one ICO that is exemplar ... the template to follow!

Again imo trust agents need to hold in escrow the raised BTC; later it can be programmed into smart contracts.  TheDAO is promising such solution.  We will see  Roll Eyes Grin  

imo ...
GEMZ & SWARM had the best indicators of they might work  Lips sealed

adding to vlom's list:

Aurora (premine acting as a kind of ICO)
Paycoin
START (premine acting as a kind of ICO)
CLAM (air drop premine as a kind of ICO)
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/storjcoin-x/  (best numbers/chart) << maybe the success case


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May 30, 2016, 02:05:12 PM
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I should have made this a self-moderated thread.

This thread isn't about discussing personal opinions on whether most ICOs are scams or not. This thread is to build a spreadsheet with price data to see how ICOs have performed immediately after there market debut.

Please try and stick to discussions around the spreadsheet and providing data for said sheet.

Thank you.
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May 30, 2016, 02:16:05 PM
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I should have made this a self-moderated thread.

This thread isn't about discussing personal opinions on whether most ICOs are scams or not. This thread is to build a spreadsheet with price data to see how ICOs have performed immediately after there market debut.

Please try and stick to discussions around the spreadsheet and providing data for said sheet.

Thank you.

Don't worry Bimmerhead, I really like what you are doing with this project and I will contribute if I have time to do so.

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Good idea OP!  I hope coinmarketcap could add this info to their site.

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There is also Bicrystals  it happened in September 2015.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957797.0
1000 BTC was raised.  and is traded only on Poloniex. https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bcy  and was 0.00008-0.0003BTC first week of trading and trading happened as soon crowdsale ended.
Game that they develop will go live in September 2016.

Crowdsale price was from 0.000067-0.0001BTC depends if you bought first or last week. altogether was 4 weeks.


Well this ICO is was different then the most maybe should not even be posted side by side.

What is a bit hard to compile is that 30 million Bitcrystals stayed owned by EDS and only 14 millions was sold to collect 1000 BTC. But we will soon see how all that will work out.
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May 30, 2016, 04:02:40 PM
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I should have made this a self-moderated thread.

This thread isn't about discussing personal opinions on whether most ICOs are scams or not. This thread is to build a spreadsheet with price data to see how ICOs have performed immediately after there market debut.

Please try and stick to discussions around the spreadsheet and providing data for said sheet.

Thank you.

yes. that is true. sorry, i did not find the time to help you again and write something useful here.

 what about the hundreds of ICOs on yobit (https://yobit.net/en/ico/)? is there a coin that lasted more than two weeks?

do you want to include them in your list?
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 what about the hundreds of ICOs on yobit (https://yobit.net/en/ico/)? is there a coin that lasted more than two weeks?

do you want to include them in your list?

Not really, no. I'm thinking more along the lines of Ethereum/Lisk/Waves/Maidsafe/Storj blockchain 2.0 type offerings, not just alt-coins that don't offer a significant new service or technology.
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