Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[makvo]

Hey! my first post on these forums so sorry if I am doing something wrong

I saw Bitmain does not sell S9s anymore, they are out of stock. Anyone knows when it will be filled up, any soon? And while its not in stock, where should I buy it off? I would buy it at ebay but I am not sure, is it recommended by you guys? Also I was looking for a trusted seller not a random 40-50 point ones on ebay (yeah I know they are mostly not scammers either, but I am paranoid!)

TL;DR: where to buy s9?

Sorry if this was posted before.

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[mamiakimo]

Since you are using Awesome miner to monitor/control, try editing the Miner Offline rule to use 'Start Miner" Instead of "Restart Miner. I just started trying that and so far it seems to give the miner a kick in the pants without doing a full restart/warm boot.

good advice, thank you
i will try it after start my miner because i closed it until i fixed my internet connection with my ISP

[mamiakimo]

i get there response

Thank you for the updates. I need to check with the engineers about how the B17 machine handles interruptions in the internet connection. This batch miner works very differently from earlier batches.

The earlier firmware will not work on this batch.

I will get back to you as soon as I have more information.

[ZymurBits]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

Correction - Date is 10/18.  Must get new glasses.

[Sierra8561]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

[Biodom]

One board on S9 (two month old) does not work anymore. It is still under warranty, but is it even worth it sending it to hong kong?
What is the cost to do that from US, approximately? Instructions are peculiar and I have no ability to photograph anything as the miner is in hosting. What did you guys use, UPS or FEDEX?

[HagssFIN]

One board on S9 (two month old) does not work anymore. It is still under warranty, but is it even worth it sending it to hong kong?
What is the cost to do that from US, approximately? Instructions are peculiar and I have no ability to photograph anything as the miner is in hosting. What did you guys use, UPS or FEDEX?

Philipma1957 here in forum has had good experience with BitmainWarranty.
In US it might be a good idea to deal with them.
www.bitmainwarranty.com

[ZymurBits]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case).  Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

[Biodom]

One board on S9 (two month old) does not work anymore. It is still under warranty, but is it even worth it sending it to hong kong?
What is the cost to do that from US, approximately? Instructions are peculiar and I have no ability to photograph anything as the miner is in hosting. What did you guys use, UPS or FEDEX?

Philipma1957 here in forum has had good experience with BitmainWarranty.
In US it might be a good idea to deal with them.
www.bitmainwarranty.com

thanks. this is probably true re US repair, although typically you have to pay for it.
However, apart from sending cost, you are not supposed to pay for warranty repair in Hong Kong.
What if repair cost close to board cost when you do it in US? Then, it does not make sense.

I would appreciate if someone post re cost of sending a board from US to HK. Thanks.

[Sierra8561]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case).  Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

[numnutz2009]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case).  Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

[tntdgcr]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case).  Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

we're rolling it out on some 17s today and earlier problem miners.

[Sierra8561]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case).  Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

we're rolling it out on some 17s today and earlier problem miners.

I actually flashed it on a B14. Frequency has stayed at 550 on all boards. Chip temps still much higher than other S9's due to fan speed.

[tntdgcr]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case).  Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

we're rolling it out on some 17s today and earlier problem miners.

I actually flashed it on a B14. Frequency has stayed at 550 on all boards. Chip temps still much higher than other S9's due to fan speed.

can confirm, earlier batches are running hotter, but it could be they weren't reporting properly before. None of the early batches seem to change freq , 550s , 600s etc.

[Xircom]

I tried to roll out on some S9´s today, that did not hash at promised hash rate....... disaster struck.
Bitmain says its for all S9`s in the file name: Antminer-S9-all-201610180851-autofreq-user.tar

But some of my S9`s went mental and Chip temp (132-150 degree celcius) was showing up, just after a few min of mining. I reflashed the miners with old firmware to prevent burning the boards. Something is completely wrong with this firmware.

[Xircom]

Since you are using Awesome miner to monitor/control, try editing the Miner Offline rule to use 'Start Miner" Instead of "Restart Miner. I just started trying that and so far it seems to give the miner a kick in the pants without doing a full restart/warm boot.

Sometimes a miner shows offline in awesome and I managed to kick start them through putty: reboot -f -p
That works in many cases when miner shows offline in awesome and even when you cant browse the miner through the GUI.
How do you make this start command in Awesome you are talking about ?

[numnutz2009]

New firmware released today.  Not sure if it's the same as what came with Batch 16/17 or if newer (has the same date).  Description says "This package can make startup faster." fwiw

That is interesting how it works on all batches. anyone try it yet?

Installed and it did seem to start up quicker (< 2 minutes in my case).  Still has the oscillating fan speeds and no way to control.

Installed it on 1 of mine. I don't like the loss of fan control. My chip temp is now 15-20C higher than my others.

the temps are probably higher because the new firmware automatically overclocks the miner to the highest freq for each board. i much rather have each board at the same freq. one of my miners has a freq of 477 while another board in the same miner has a freq of over 600...that board is also hotter than the other 2. this will probably cause more failed boards than the old firmware did. afterall bitmain said "overclocking voids your warranty" because it puts the miner under more stress that wears it out faster...now it overclocks itself which will cause premature failures....not a good look bitmain...

has anyone tried the old firmware versions on b17 and 18?? im not sure what makes this batch any different. my 12th miners had 12th stickers placed over top of the 11.83th stickers and both stickers had the same serial number so im wondering if they are just saying that so people dont downgrade their firmware.

we're rolling it out on some 17s today and earlier problem miners.

keep us posted for sure because this new firmware sucks.

like the other guy said...the temps r probably high because of that auto fan stuff. if it doesnt ramp up the freq like it does with batch 17/18 then thats the only other reason really. idk y they change the fan profiles for the miner. u cant make these machines quiet. if they were worried about the sound they should have adopted the full size larger fan heatsink like they used before. tons of these shallow tiny heatsinks just blows. i would much rather lose some space where i run my miners and have larger heatsink vs this small compact miner that runs hot.

people abuse their miners alot though. im one of few that runs them properly (aka not in a barn or a shed in the dead of summer) so im surprised bitmain would release such a temp sensitive miner to the general public knowing how many run them. they could have released it but with a better cooling design.

[philipma1957]

One board on S9 (two month old) does not work anymore. It is still under warranty, but is it even worth it sending it to hong kong?
What is the cost to do that from US, approximately? Instructions are peculiar and I have no ability to photograph anything as the miner is in hosting. What did you guys use, UPS or FEDEX?

Philipma1957 here in forum has had good experience with BitmainWarranty.
In US it might be a good idea to deal with them.
www.bitmainwarranty.com

thanks. this is probably true re US repair, although typically you have to pay for it.
However, apart from sending cost, you are not supposed to pay for warranty repair in Hong Kong.
What if repair cost close to board cost when you do it in US? Then, it does not make sense.

I would appreciate if someone post re cost of sending a board from US to HK. Thanks.

About 110 via ups.

And you have to claim it to,be 44 usd or lower in value.

So 110 and if it is less lost or damaged you can only collect 44 bucks.

A boards value is around 450.

If you send to Colorado in a small usps flat rate it is 15 and you can insure it for 200 spend 18 total then spend 25 for return so 43 out of pocket and repair is 100 to 225.

So it can be a case of pick your ur poison.

Right now the solar array has 30-38 amps idle power due to my fear of using s9s.

It took me years to get a good power deal and now the gear has become very unreliable.
If s9s worked better I would have six or seven more. Instead I sold most off and I am down to three units.

[Epoch]

It took me years to get a good power deal and now the gear has become very unreliable.
If s9s worked better I would have six or seven more. Instead I sold most off and I am down to three units.

I agree; S9's in general have been very problematic compared to the scores of S1's, S3's, S5's, and S7's I've purchased. A significant drop in quality overall, which is disappointing and frustrating to see. I've had to RMA a large percentage of S9 boards already, some of the replacements have failed as well, and still have out-of-warranty dead boards to deal with. I'm not purchasing additional S9's, even though I have capacity for them ... hoping that something more reliable will show up at some point.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Since you are using Awesome miner to monitor/control, try editing the Miner Offline rule to use 'Start Miner" Instead of "Restart Miner. I just started trying that and so far it seems to give the miner a kick in the pants without doing a full restart/warm boot.

Sometimes a miner shows offline in awesome and I managed to kick start them through putty: reboot -f -p
That works in many cases when miner shows offline in awesome and even when you cant browse the miner through the GUI.
How do you make this start command in Awesome you are talking about ?

Be on the Main tab, select Options > Rules. You get a menu with pre-defined tick boxes as well as an area below to write your own rules..

From the pre-defined list double click on Offline Detection to edit what it does. Same applies to Dead Device Detection -- you can edit how many chips report bad before choosing what to do about it.

Like I said, for Offline the default was restert which rebooted the entire miner. Changing to Start miner I think just restarts cgminer itself. There is prolly a description of what the API calls do in ck/Kanos github...

So far looking at the logged stats, since changing Offline Detection to just Notify and to Start Miner (vs Restart) none of my miners have rebooted since! Ja the Notifications are logged but looking at the performance loge for times involved show no hash rate lost and miner uptime reflects happy running as well.

With the 8 s9's I have and several s7's as well I'd see at least one per-day reboot due to offline timeout. Now - zero