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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530803 times)
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October 27, 2016, 07:08:44 PM
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I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.

Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip?  The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did.  I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them.  I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3).  That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.

EDIT:  I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
You mean older s9's? New firmware does not run on old s9's?

I believe it runs, but so far, from what I have seen reported, it doesn't actually make them autotune at all like the new ones do.

EDIT: Batch 19 saying sold out on the website already.
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October 27, 2016, 07:34:19 PM
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I was thinking of running all my s9's with autotune to get the freq numbers for each board and then flip back to old firmware with those numbers
where you have fan control. Then consolidate boards that have the same autotune freq.

Didn't the original autotune firmware tune each chip?  The logs I saw posted for it looked like it did.  I haven't used any of those firmwares and my miners are all early batches now so haven't tested any of them.  I did mention the idea of mixing and matching boards based on performance back when I got my first S9 (batch 3).  That first S9 has a single bad board so I am quite certain the other two boards would even OC without a problem but that one board can't even handle stock freq.

EDIT:  I was actually hoping that one of the newer autotune firmwares would work on old miners so I could autotune that one and get a higher freq on the good boards.
You mean older s9's? New firmware does not run on old s9's?

I believe it runs, but so far, from what I have seen reported, it doesn't actually make them autotune at all like the new ones do.

EDIT: Batch 19 saying sold out on the website already.

Not.you is correct it works on older versions but won't auto tune.
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October 27, 2016, 08:49:36 PM
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Batch 19 13.5th version is sold out. I wonder how many they had to sale?
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October 27, 2016, 08:58:53 PM
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13.5 th autotune fan is spinning up and down from 2500 to 5000
jeez

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October 27, 2016, 09:04:39 PM
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its amazing people are still buying these things..

low warranty, that cost money to use it..
high failure rate.. so almost guaranteed to break down.
very high cost.. so no chance of roi..


if you guys bought 8 rx 480s for 250 each, and 4 bare bones cpus/board/ram combos.. you would spend about 3000$ and make MORE bitcoin in the end with lower power costs.. and a guaranteed chance of roi with a 3 to 5 year warranty on hardware.
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October 27, 2016, 09:16:21 PM
Last edit: October 27, 2016, 09:48:47 PM by Biodom
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^^^it does not have to be either/or.  you can spread it around or not buy any miner (hold btc/eth instead).
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.
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October 27, 2016, 11:05:56 PM
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All sold out

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October 27, 2016, 11:12:30 PM
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^^^it does not have to be either/or.  you can spread it around or not buy any miner (hold btc/eth instead).
the setup you described makes only $172/mo (before electricity) right now. I don't see how it pays $3000.
It looked better in July, of course, with altcoin at $15 and much lower difficulty.
Now...meh.

I sold off a lot of gear and I am holding 20 btc so  far so good.

hoping that lightningasic.com releases it 10th miner that they have show us .


I rather both the s9 and any big miner be well under 1000k  not well over.

the s9 13.5 is 1607 plus shipping.

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October 27, 2016, 11:23:33 PM
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All sold out

And they are back at 11TH Smiley Like a yo-yo.. people must be buying and getting cold feet.

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October 27, 2016, 11:24:46 PM
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I have a feeling that these latest batches are quite limited in quantity.

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October 27, 2016, 11:27:33 PM
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All "Sold Out"!

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October 27, 2016, 11:53:09 PM
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All "Sold Out"!
Well damn that was fast!
Glad I um, ordered #9 for me just after lunch.

Is a batch-18. Just couldn't see spending ~$400 USD more for the not-enough-faster batch-19. In the past the price diff was more like ~$200 or a tad more so I had always gone for the faster ones released. This is 1st time I didn't.

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October 27, 2016, 11:54:48 PM
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Nah there is still Batch 18 left... for now.

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October 28, 2016, 12:02:33 AM
Last edit: October 28, 2016, 02:11:39 PM by NotFuzzyWarm
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Nah there is still Batch 18 left... for now.
I seriously thought (for about 1 min) about ordering 2 of the b18's. But -- I've really been waiting for another release of the R4's so I can get one or 2 for room heaters. Ya know, cool weather here and cold arriving... Wisely chose to Just Say No and stuck with just the one.

Since again it will be replacing a power slot in my main farm at work that is currently used by a s7... starting to really get an unsightly buildup of off-line s7's growing at work  Embarrassed

Then also in Pasture there is the uber-rare fully functional retired A1 rig from AMT, 2x s2's, 2x C1's, and 2x s4's... Quite the collection. Glad I was at least able to offload literal pile of my old s1's 3's, 5's, and another s4 to Sidehack Cheesy

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October 28, 2016, 12:06:36 AM
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what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?
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October 28, 2016, 02:48:20 AM
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what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?

It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.

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October 28, 2016, 03:04:12 AM
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what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?

It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.

sometimes  you win out on a drop.  I have done it once in a while.

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October 28, 2016, 03:05:41 AM
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what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?

It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.

then, they should not say "bitcoins", just sell for $$ from credit cards or paypal.
bitcoin does not have bitmain's favorite value; value is known, real time.

what's up with pinching extra $20 by not adjusting btc price.
Isn't it a globally traded asset with real time price indication?

It seems like they've always manually adjusted their price on the site. Maybe they're afraid of automatic adjustments and the affect of larger price swings.

sometimes  you win out on a drop.  I have done it once in a while.

nowadays they just stop sales when it happens.
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October 28, 2016, 05:57:15 AM
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Now it is time to buy S9 batch 19,20 or to wait for new s10 or s11
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
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October 28, 2016, 06:14:01 AM
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Now it is time to buy S9 batch 19,20 or to wait for new s10 or s11
because in s7 during this much batches the s9 was released so when to expect new miner ?
BMT has no reason to release another miner. They have absolutely zero competition on the 14/16 nm node.

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