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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 506476 times)
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June 21, 2016, 01:27:31 AM
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My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).

watch for heat creep  Mine tend to creep to as high as 75-105 unless I clock to 550  vs 650.

much of this issue is summer temps in the solar array shed.  we are getting fans set up and will change the venting setup.

this will fix heat issues. and we will boost the  clock back up.

At the hottest part of the day they are hitting 100-101.  But the PCB temps are right around what the S7's are showing (67-70) so I am guessing the S7 chip temps are hitting those kind of numbers too. 
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June 21, 2016, 12:08:54 PM
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My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).

watch for heat creep  Mine tend to creep to as high as 75-105 unless I clock to 550  vs 650.

much of this issue is summer temps in the solar array shed.  we are getting fans set up and will change the venting setup.

this will fix heat issues. and we will boost the  clock back up.

At the hottest part of the day they are hitting 100-101.  But the PCB temps are right around what the S7's are showing (67-70) so I am guessing the S7 chip temps are hitting those kind of numbers too. 

So, What is the difference between temp(PCB) and temp(chip)?  I understand the ranges for temp(PCB) is "keep it under 80c and runs most efficient at 58-65c," But what is the safe range and cutoff for temp(chip)?

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June 21, 2016, 12:51:07 PM
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My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).

watch for heat creep  Mine tend to creep to as high as 75-105 unless I clock to 550  vs 650.

much of this issue is summer temps in the solar array shed.  we are getting fans set up and will change the venting setup.

this will fix heat issues. and we will boost the  clock back up.

At the hottest part of the day they are hitting 100-101.  But the PCB temps are right around what the S7's are showing (67-70) so I am guessing the S7 chip temps are hitting those kind of numbers too. 

So, What is the difference between temp(PCB) and temp(chip)?  I understand the ranges for temp(PCB) is "keep it under 80c and runs most efficient at 58-65c," But what is the safe range and cutoff for temp(chip)?


all of us seem to  be
pcb-chip
50   80
60   90
70  100
75  105
80  110

so 80 pcb would mean 110 chip

my thoughts are the s-7  could run at 65 pcb for 6 to 8 months  been there done that with two units that ran from  sept 2015


which would mean  65-95    should be fine for long term runs.



and 80 - 110 is shut down temp.


so 66-96 to 79-109  is the gray zone.   

My goal is to be under 70 -100   as much as possible.  I am not looking to be a beta tester with 8200 usd worth of gear.


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June 21, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
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My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).

watch for heat creep  Mine tend to creep to as high as 75-105 unless I clock to 550  vs 650.

much of this issue is summer temps in the solar array shed.  we are getting fans set up and will change the venting setup.

this will fix heat issues. and we will boost the  clock back up.

At the hottest part of the day they are hitting 100-101.  But the PCB temps are right around what the S7's are showing (67-70) so I am guessing the S7 chip temps are hitting those kind of numbers too. 

So, What is the difference between temp(PCB) and temp(chip)?  I understand the ranges for temp(PCB) is "keep it under 80c and runs most efficient at 58-65c," But what is the safe range and cutoff for temp(chip)?


all of us seem to  be
pcb-chip
50   80
60   90
70  100
75  105
80  110

so 80 pcb would mean 110 chip

my thoughts are the s-7  could run at 65 pcb for 6 to 8 months  been there done that with two units that ran from  sept 2015


which would mean  65-95    should be fine for long term runs.



and 80 - 110 is shut down temp.


so 66-96 to 79-109  is the gray zone.   

My goal is to be under 70 -100   as much as possible.  I am not looking to be a beta tester with 8200 usd worth of gear.



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June 21, 2016, 01:13:36 PM
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My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).

watch for heat creep  Mine tend to creep to as high as 75-105 unless I clock to 550  vs 650.

much of this issue is summer temps in the solar array shed.  we are getting fans set up and will change the venting setup.

this will fix heat issues. and we will boost the  clock back up.

At the hottest part of the day they are hitting 100-101.  But the PCB temps are right around what the S7's are showing (67-70) so I am guessing the S7 chip temps are hitting those kind of numbers too. 

So, What is the difference between temp(PCB) and temp(chip)?  I understand the ranges for temp(PCB) is "keep it under 80c and runs most efficient at 58-65c," But what is the safe range and cutoff for temp(chip)?


all of us seem to  be
pcb-chip
50   80
60   90
70  100
75  105
80  110

so 80 pcb would mean 110 chip

my thoughts are the s-7  could run at 65 pcb for 6 to 8 months  been there done that with two units that ran from  sept 2015


which would mean  65-95    should be fine for long term runs.



and 80 - 110 is shut down temp.


so 66-96 to 79-109  is the gray zone.   

My goal is to be under 70 -100   as much as possible.  I am not looking to be a beta tester with 8200 usd worth of gear.



My unit is at 65/95/99% fan/13.6TH/650mhz.

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June 21, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
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My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).

watch for heat creep  Mine tend to creep to as high as 75-105 unless I clock to 550  vs 650.

much of this issue is summer temps in the solar array shed.  we are getting fans set up and will change the venting setup.

this will fix heat issues. and we will boost the  clock back up.

At the hottest part of the day they are hitting 100-101.  But the PCB temps are right around what the S7's are showing (67-70) so I am guessing the S7 chip temps are hitting those kind of numbers too. 

So, What is the difference between temp(PCB) and temp(chip)?  I understand the ranges for temp(PCB) is "keep it under 80c and runs most efficient at 58-65c," But what is the safe range and cutoff for temp(chip)?


all of us seem to  be
pcb-chip
50   80
60   90
70  100
75  105
80  110

so 80 pcb would mean 110 chip

my thoughts are the s-7  could run at 65 pcb for 6 to 8 months  been there done that with two units that ran from  sept 2015


which would mean  65-95    should be fine for long term runs.



and 80 - 110 is shut down temp.


so 66-96 to 79-109  is the gray zone.   

My goal is to be under 70 -100   as much as possible.  I am not looking to be a beta tester with 8200 usd worth of gear.



My unit is at 65/95/99% fan/13.6TH/650mhz.

I gave up on the HW error count - its like a counter, literally going up like speedometer - crazy

please clock at freq  643 for 24 hours and see what you get.

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June 21, 2016, 02:38:25 PM
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Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

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June 21, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
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Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

Where did you order one? The official site does not have any.

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Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

Where did you order one? The official site does not have any.

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June 21, 2016, 03:23:19 PM
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Is the S9 as loud as the S7?

   The fan noise on the S7 is unbearable compared to S3's. sigh.
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Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I think you will find a lot with the AP3 from bitmain - https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201505040743496917U7kGsCm0694 .   It is the one recommended from them "Bitmain recommends the APW3-12-1600-B2 power supply for both the S9 and S7 miner.".   

Just make sure you have the 205V or more so PSU can operate properly.
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June 21, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
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Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

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Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

I suspect that the bitmaintech psu is just a tiny bit short to run an s-9

it does need 210 or more volts so if in USA you need correct voltage wires.

now if you are looking for an ATX 120 volt option EVGA has them  but they are costly

titanium 1600 watt cost - 386 usd

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Crossfire-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?


platinum 342
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-PLATINUM-Crossfire-220-P2-1600-X1/dp/B00NJG61JQ/ref=sr_1_3?

gold 302
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-120-G2-1600-X1/dp/B00MMLUIE8/ref=sr_1_2?

Thanks! Along the lines of what I was looking for!
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any rumors on batch 4 release date?
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Just ordered one. Wondering what power supplies people are using in the states?

Thanks guys!

Where did you order one? The official site does not have any.

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I just checked my two s-9's coming on weds well they are now coming on thurs and both have a line I have never seen.
I bolded the line below.


Shenzhen, China   06/22/2016   1:00 A.M.   Export Scan
Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   10:15 P.M.
Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.



Lakewood, NJ, United States   06/21/2016   7:08 A.M.   The receiver must pay the duties or taxes due on the package.



Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   3:07 P.M.   Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery.
06/20/2016   12:40 P.M.   The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
Shenzhen, China   06/20/2016   11:15 P.M.   Arrival Scan
06/20/2016   10:59 P.M.   Departure Scan
06/20/2016   7:36 P.M.   Origin Scan
06/20/2016   5:06 P.M.   Pickup Scan
China   06/20/2016   1:10 A.M.   Order Processed: Ready for UPS


I have read this has happened to some people  and some paid it and some fixed it.

So if I pay for 2 units  how much is it?

If I want to fix it what do I do?

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I just checked my two s-9's coming on weds well they are now coming on thurs and both have a line I have never seen.
I bolded the line below.


Shenzhen, China   06/22/2016   1:00 A.M.   Export Scan
Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   10:15 P.M.
Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.



Lakewood, NJ, United States   06/21/2016   7:08 A.M.   The receiver must pay the duties or taxes due on the package.

.....

I wonder if maybe this happened because you have two S9's as a single shipment, and the total value exceeded some threshold. In the past haven't you had "single miner shipments"? Perhaps in the future it might be worth considering staggered orders which become staggered shipments?
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I just checked my two s-9's coming on weds well they are now coming on thurs and both have a line I have never seen.
I bolded the line below.


Shenzhen, China   06/22/2016   1:00 A.M.   Export Scan
Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   10:15 P.M.
Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.



Lakewood, NJ, United States   06/21/2016   7:08 A.M.   The receiver must pay the duties or taxes due on the package.

.....

I wonder if maybe this happened because you have two S9's as a single shipment, and the total value exceeded some threshold. In the past haven't you had "single miner shipments"? Perhaps in the future it might be worth considering staggered orders which become staggered shipments?

They were staggered by more then a day.

 first order batch 2 order was on the 9th
 second batch 2 order was on the 12th

so the question is what will fees be for 4154   = 1985+1985+62+62

so I get a delay in shipping   it comes on thur vs wed and a mystery fee.

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I just checked my two s-9's coming on weds well they are now coming on thurs and both have a line I have never seen.
I bolded the line below.


Shenzhen, China   06/22/2016   1:00 A.M.   Export Scan
Shenzhen, China   06/21/2016   10:15 P.M.
Your package is in transit. We're updating plans to schedule your delivery. / The package will be forwarded to a UPS facility in the destination city.



Lakewood, NJ, United States   06/21/2016   7:08 A.M.   The receiver must pay the duties or taxes due on the package.

.....

I wonder if maybe this happened because you have two S9's as a single shipment, and the total value exceeded some threshold. In the past haven't you had "single miner shipments"? Perhaps in the future it might be worth considering staggered orders which become staggered shipments?

I had the exact same thing happen. I had to pay $63.00 for my 5 miners.
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Is the S9 as loud as the S7?

   The fan noise on the S7 is unbearable compared to S3's. sigh.

From what I have read in some threads ( I didn't have one myself) you can compare the noise from the S9 with an S7.
Maybe one of the owners can answer better?


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