Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[Cassey]

Love to try CKPool, but unable to connect for some reason.  Any suggestions?

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[Puffy23]

Buddy, Slush's has the BEST dashboard, but CKPool has the BEST profits. 

Can we have a non-emotional, fact based, discussion about that?  I am open to switching.

Slush is running around 62PH, it has a 2% fee and using a scoring system that seems fair (rewards consistent participation).  Transaction fees are shared.

CKPool is running around 36PH, has a 0.9% fee and uses PPLNSG payouts.  Transaction fees are also shared.

Seems to me, for someone that is running for months, PPLNSG and Slushes scoring system are similar in effect, both avoid block hoppers (are those still a problem?).

Variance based on pool size is not a big deal for either:  both are large enough that a daily payout is reasonable (my personal threshold).

Seems Slush wouldn't make for a very good backup pool, since short term access results in a lower score.  Seems to me that CKPool may be ok for that, although the payouts would be delayed by a day or so.

Bottom line, the fees are the major difference?

BTW - I have CKPool as one of my backup pools as of last night, but all three of my miners are showing the pool as dead.  I'm using a named account.  The doc indicates the worker name will be auto-generated upon first contact, yet I'll never have a first contact if the pool doesn't show up as alive...

Slush is bad if you have a blackout  you lose your work.  I would not use them for this one reason. Forget any other reason then this one.

also along the same lines if you do a big rental  on nicehash and the rental drops off you lose your work.

I don't mine anywhere that loses my work  in under 12 hours.  To me the 5n feature of kano is a big reason I mine with them.

I can understand wanting credit for every second participating in the pool, however, the Slush method isn't necessarily unfair.

It's true that you lose all your work on power down for the next block found.  But on the flip side of that coin you get full credit for the next block found on power up.  Granted, you lose work faster than you gain it, but not so much so that these two attributes of the scoring system don't nearly cancel each other out.

To boot, if you get back online before the next block is solved (in the pool) there is 0 impact to the credit towards that block.  So Slush favors power ons as well as intermittent power downs between blocks to balance out for losing credit on power downs where a block is solved.

I see nothing *bad* about that.  It's just different.

[notlist3d]

Blade 4 seems to have 10x the HW errors   -  Now hashing at 13.444Thz  -- Ambient temp is below 20deg C


(picture above)


Oh  and numnutz2009  your name is Fitting -- Just replace the first  n with a D

Your HW errors are still really low though.   So the even with the 1 with more I don't see it as a amount that causes alarm.   You have a decent test run with over a day.   As far as hardware errors looks fine to me.


On another note Biodom can you add a PSU spot on your spreadsheet?   Would be interested to have that on there.  On one I am testing with you can put down the Bitmain AP3.

[Biodom]

Blade 4 seems to have 10x the HW errors   -  Now hashing at 13.444Thz  -- Ambient temp is below 20deg C


(picture above)


Oh  and numnutz2009  your name is Fitting -- Just replace the first  n with a D

Your HW errors are still really low though.   So the even with the 1 with more I don't see it as a amount that causes alarm.   You have a decent test run with over a day.   As far as hardware errors looks fine to me.


On another note Biodom can you add a PSU spot on your spreadsheet?   Would be interested to have that on there.  On one I am testing with you can put down the Bitmain AP3.

I don't mind adding PSU, of course, but most people provide only fractional info.
I will add it for you a bit later.

[clgrissom3]

Almost at 2 hours now, web page indicateds 13,544.19 GH/S(RT) and 13,6954.32(avg) - just added the "Lowes sound mod" and noticing the temps go up a few degrees - now at 65-67C.

Of interest, Slushpool is crediting my S9 with 14.53TH/s over the past hour:

My units are in a basement "machine room", so thinking of removing the grills to see if that helps.  On my S7s, I found partially blocking the intake worked, but raised temps.  Using a block of 2x3 lumber BEHIND the unit brought the sound under control.  May play a bit more before disabling the safety grills.

Buddy, Slush's has the BEST dashboard, but CKPool has the BEST profits.  

I use Slush because I can have an active dashboard on every single electronic device I own.  I notice within minutes when one of my miners is offline or hashing at unusually low rates.  The increased % of uptime is worth more to me than the higher % of blocks found.

My units are in a remote location on a TWC business class connection and I still live in fear that they will burn up on an internet outage.  I've had several that I noticed immediately and by the time I arrived it still smelled a bit toasty and the metal racks were almost searing hot.  No other pool offers the kind of access to the dashboard (from my experience) that allows me to respond almost immediately.

I get notices of down or under-performing miners by text messages (and emails) on Kano.is so I don't have to watch the dashboard constantly.  I used to be on Slush until I realized that I made a lot more on Kano.  Now...I just can't wait to get my S9 batch 3 online!  



 

[yslyung]

Love to try CKPool, but unable to connect for some reason.  Any suggestions?

name wrong ! chk properly.

back to topic, b3 scheduled to arrive on 20th too.

no lemon no likey lemon

[sunny163]

waiting for batch 2 be shipped ......

[philipma1957]

Buddy, Slush's has the BEST dashboard, but CKPool has the BEST profits. 

Can we have a non-emotional, fact based, discussion about that?  I am open to switching.

Slush is running around 62PH, it has a 2% fee and using a scoring system that seems fair (rewards consistent participation).  Transaction fees are shared.

CKPool is running around 36PH, has a 0.9% fee and uses PPLNSG payouts.  Transaction fees are also shared.

Seems to me, for someone that is running for months, PPLNSG and Slushes scoring system are similar in effect, both avoid block hoppers (are those still a problem?).

Variance based on pool size is not a big deal for either:  both are large enough that a daily payout is reasonable (my personal threshold).

Seems Slush wouldn't make for a very good backup pool, since short term access results in a lower score.  Seems to me that CKPool may be ok for that, although the payouts would be delayed by a day or so.

Bottom line, the fees are the major difference?

BTW - I have CKPool as one of my backup pools as of last night, but all three of my miners are showing the pool as dead.  I'm using a named account.  The doc indicates the worker name will be auto-generated upon first contact, yet I'll never have a first contact if the pool doesn't show up as alive...

Slush is bad if you have a blackout  you lose your work.  I would not use them for this one reason. Forget any other reason then this one.

also along the same lines if you do a big rental  on nicehash and the rental drops off you lose your work.

I don't mine anywhere that loses my work  in under 12 hours.  To me the 5n feature of kano is a big reason I mine with them.

I can understand wanting credit for every second participating in the pool, however, the Slush method isn't necessarily unfair.

It's true that you lose all your work on power down for the next block found.  But on the flip side of that coin you get full credit for the next block found on power up.  Granted, you lose work faster than you gain it, but not so much so that these two attributes of the scoring system don't nearly cancel each other out.

To boot, if you get back online before the next block is solved (in the pool) there is 0 impact to the credit towards that block.  So Slush favors power ons as well as intermittent power downs between blocks to balance out for losing credit on power downs where a block is solved.

I see nothing *bad* about that.  It's just different.

Thank you  I see something in your info that I can use.

[not.you]

Love to try CKPool, but unable to connect for some reason.  Any suggestions?

name wrong ! chk properly.

There was that whole thing where Kano had talked to someone who had an S9 before they were technically released and it was sending an extraneous command at connection that was causing it not to work on the Kano pool.  I don't know if you could see it in the logs at startup or not.  But it seems within the realm of possibility that if this one did not have the firmware updated before being shipped it may be configured to use that extraneous command at connection which would prevent it from working on Kano CKpool.  In that case then theoretically speaking, a firmware update should fix it.  However based on the intermittent bricking reports from S7 firmware updates I think I would be certain that was the issue before going down that road.  

[Cassey]

There was that whole thing where Kano had talked to someone who had an S9 before they were technically released and it was sending an extraneous command at connection that was causing it not to work on the Kano pool.  I don't know if you could see it in the logs at startup or not.  But it seems within the realm of possibility that if this one did not have the firmware updated before being shipped it may be configured to use that extraneous command at connection which would prevent it from working on Kano CKpool.  In that case then theoretically speaking, a firmware update should fix it.  However based on the intermittent bricking reports from S7 firmware updates I think I would be certain that was the issue before going down that road.  

Thanks.  Alas my S9 unit was shipped with the June 8th firmware, and I'm seeing the same issue on my S7s.  I've asked for help on the #ckpool IRC channel, but so far, no response.

To the previous responder:  I actually do know how to spell my username, and the image shows that as being consistent with my usage on Slush.  As mentioned, the website accepts that spelling as me.

[clgrissom3]

Love to try CKPool, but unable to connect for some reason.  Any suggestions?

Have you tried any of the other ports?  Which country are you in?  There are some nodes for other countries as well...

stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333
stratum+tcp://stratum80.kano.is:80
stratum+tcp://stratum81.kano.is:81
stratum+tcp://stratum443.kano.is:443
stratum+tcp://stratum8080.kano.is:8080

[not.you]

There was that whole thing where Kano had talked to someone who had an S9 before they were technically released and it was sending an extraneous command at connection that was causing it not to work on the Kano pool.  I don't know if you could see it in the logs at startup or not.  But it seems within the realm of possibility that if this one did not have the firmware updated before being shipped it may be configured to use that extraneous command at connection which would prevent it from working on Kano CKpool.  In that case then theoretically speaking, a firmware update should fix it.  However based on the intermittent bricking reports from S7 firmware updates I think I would be certain that was the issue before going down that road.  

Thanks.  Alas my S9 unit was shipped with the June 8th firmware, and I'm seeing the same issue on my S7s.  I've asked for help on the #ckpool IRC channel, but so far, no response.

To the previous responder:  I actually do know how to spell my username, and the image shows that as being consistent with my usage on Slush.  As mentioned, the website accepts that spelling as me.

Then that suggests an intentional block on the pool side for some reason.  Message him on here or post in the pool thread.

[AriesIV10]

Buddy, Slush's has the BEST dashboard, but CKPool has the BEST profits. 

Can we have a non-emotional, fact based, discussion about that?  I am open to switching.

Slush is running around 62PH, it has a 2% fee and using a scoring system that seems fair (rewards consistent participation).  Transaction fees are shared.

CKPool is running around 36PH, has a 0.9% fee and uses PPLNSG payouts.  Transaction fees are also shared.

Seems to me, for someone that is running for months, PPLNSG and Slushes scoring system are similar in effect, both avoid block hoppers (are those still a problem?).

Variance based on pool size is not a big deal for either:  both are large enough that a daily payout is reasonable (my personal threshold).

Seems Slush wouldn't make for a very good backup pool, since short term access results in a lower score.  Seems to me that CKPool may be ok for that, although the payouts would be delayed by a day or so.

Bottom line, the fees are the major difference?

BTW - I have CKPool as one of my backup pools as of last night, but all three of my miners are showing the pool as dead.  I'm using a named account.  The doc indicates the worker name will be auto-generated upon first contact, yet I'll never have a first contact if the pool doesn't show up as alive...

Slush is bad if you have a blackout  you lose your work.  I would not use them for this one reason. Forget any other reason then this one.

also along the same lines if you do a big rental  on nicehash and the rental drops off you lose your work.

I don't mine anywhere that loses my work  in under 12 hours.  To me the 5n feature of kano is a big reason I mine with them.

I can understand wanting credit for every second participating in the pool, however, the Slush method isn't necessarily unfair.

It's true that you lose all your work on power down for the next block found.  But on the flip side of that coin you get full credit for the next block found on power up.  Granted, you lose work faster than you gain it, but not so much so that these two attributes of the scoring system don't nearly cancel each other out.

To boot, if you get back online before the next block is solved (in the pool) there is 0 impact to the credit towards that block.  So Slush favors power ons as well as intermittent power downs between blocks to balance out for losing credit on power downs where a block is solved.

I see nothing *bad* about that.  It's just different.

Thank you  I see something in your info that I can use.

There is a site that measures pool statistics:  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/?view=flipcard
Goto the third Card that says Pools.

Of course there is a method that I also use is put a 1 miner there and compare with 1 miner in another pool to see the profitability.  That Dashoboard of Slush's is cool, but the bottom line is what counts!

[SaBit]

@clgrissom  ---  That app is cool .,, What is it? Where can I get it?


PSU = Bitmain AP1600

[Tupsu]

Starts the same old story, such as the S5 +
One of my  today arrived  S9 blade does not work in a couple of hours anymore. Low speed. After reboot only 2 blades. The red light is on, on all 3 blades. Power restart did not help . I Replaced the PSU. Did not help . PSU is now  Bitmains 1600W, was before IMB 2000W
 Screenshot.


Click on the image

[clgrissom3]

@clgrissom  ---  That app is cool .,, What is it? Where can I get it?


PSU = Bitmain AP1600

It only works on the Kano pool...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1344360.0

[SaBit]

Thanks -- d@mn it's for iPhone

[Cassey]

Thanks -- d@mn it's for iPhone

Yep.  Just switched and loaded the app this afternoon.  Not quite sure what the bar color code is suppose to mean between my 3 workers, since all three are colored the same.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Thanks -- d@mn it's for iPhone

Ja Und ta boot -- the s9 does not work with M's Miner Monitor either. Worse is that the author ceased dev on it late last year. 2x

[coinits]

Hey Bitmain...quit being so silent. You have good clients with shit gear. Wassup with that?

Also, will you be removing these bugs in the next batch?

When will the next batch come out?