Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[castiel0504]

Hey I'm new here. From the US. I recently in the past few months have been researching. I would really like to get two s9's. Currently though I am in the same boat as Navigo. Not looking to pay double. How long are their normal intervals between batches? I'm leaning towards I will need to play the waiting game.

Make twitter > follow them on twitter > turn on mobile/sms notifications > have prepared Bitcoin Cash in wallet to pay > when you get notification run to pc like madman > buy it > ? > wait 2 months > profit

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[hiroshitran]

I wanna buy S9 but , I sent mail and contact on website. But no one reply me ? Anyone know another hardware ?

[castiel0504]

I wanna buy S9 but , I sent mail and contact on website. But no one reply me ? Anyone know another hardware ?

Waiting periods for reply from suppliers are HUGE like from 1 to few weeks, there is no way that you will get an answer instantly, or answer at all if you are asking blunt questions. Best way to do is prepare money, and follow my suggestion in upper reply, that is best way how you can be informed when sale happens

[thiec]

I wanna buy S9 but , I sent mail and contact on website. But no one reply me ? Anyone know another hardware ?

If you just buy below 100 pcs, dont bother to email or contact them. Just wait they launch another batch sales

[jchi2210]

I wanna buy S9 but , I sent mail and contact on website. But no one reply me ? Anyone know another hardware ?

If you just buy below 100 pcs, dont bother to email or contact them. Just wait they launch another batch sales

I wonder how much of a discount they offer if you buy 100..I've been thinking about contacting them and trying to come up with it. It would be much quicker ROI lol.

[Biffa]

They haven't been offering discounts on recent batches. But when they do they are listed on the product page and are the ones tiny:

For an order containing 50 or more units, a 0.5% discount will be offered;

For an order containing 200 or more units, a 1.5% discount will be offered;

For an order containing 500 or more units, a 3% discount will be offered.

[AriesIV10]

I would like to see some more availability on the S9s.

[webdeep]

Is it worth buying S9 now ??

[beltsniffer]

Is it worth buying S9 now ??

That all depends on how cheap your power is, how fast the difficulty rises, and how much the price of BTC increases. You can use one of the many mining calculators out there to figure out if it would be profitable for you.

[HagssFIN]

Yeah there is no universal answer when it comes to the profitability..

[MN-Mining]

Hey I'm new here. From the US. I recently in the past few months have been researching. I would really like to get two s9's. Currently though I am in the same boat as Navigo. Not looking to pay double. How long are their normal intervals between batches? I'm leaning towards I will need to play the waiting game.

Make twitter > follow them on twitter > turn on mobile/sms notifications > have prepared Bitcoin Cash in wallet to pay > when you get notification run to pc like madman > buy it > ? > wait 2 months > profit

Thanks for the info. Hopefully I can scoop at least one up in from the next batch.

[Snub]

Is it worth buying S9 now ??

It worth for me, basing on my calculations, but that all depends on how much your electricity costs now

[ConnerM]

Is it worth buying S9 now ??

Dudes are constantly posting this everywhere in the forums - is mining profitable in such and such an date on such and such a machine? Is an S9/741/GPU/CPU/Raspberry Pi profitable to mine on yesterday / today / tomorrow?

You can't do anything more than guess at mining revenues beyond a couple difficulty cycles anyway, so ROI calculation is pretty useless. Cost of electricity is far less important than the anticipated exchange rate of BTC at a certain time in the future - that is really the only metric that matters. I'm sure all those folks that have high power rates and talked themselves out of mining at a loss (or when the ROI was theoretically far into the future) back when BTC was $400 are kicking themselves now, because they were using the entirely wrong metric to calculate ROI.

Along with up front investment and operational costs, you have to have a target goal for the exchange price of BTC built into your calculations. When we setup our farm earlier this year, mining at the current price of BTC (about $ 1600) + the price of electricity looked pretty dubious on paper. But when we set a target price of $10,000/BTC for Fall of 2018, the notion became quite profitable in theory. Nothing like BTC has ever existed before, so that's all it can be - a theory.  Will that happen? Who knows. But it's every bit as plausible any any other metric we might have used, so we went for it.

ROI/profitability over any reasonable period of time is a figure you just can't calculate anyway. Do you believe in BTC? Any investment in BTC via mining or trading is speculation. You invest funds you can afford to loose based on the possibility of a future high return. Many years (or days lol!) from now when BTC is $35,000 or $350,000 you will be glad you saw beyond things like power costs or if you would get your money back on your mining equipment in six months, and if BTC is $0 then you really didn't loose that much relative to the potential gain and you'll have some great 1400w space heaters that have the upside of sounding like fighter jet engines on the tarmac. Heat the house and imagine you're Maverick from Top Gun.

  "Engage Maverick - Engage! Ice Man is in trouble! You have to Engage!"  

Poor Goose.

The only thing for sure is the longer you wait around hand wringing about an unknowable variable like ROI, the less profit you are likely to make in the long run. Based on the information you can gather, what do YOU think (not someone else) is going to happen in the future? Trade on that and, win or loose, you'll always be OK.

[AriesIV10]

If any of you are seeing that there is no profitability for the S9s, just sell them to me for $1K, haha.  I do not mean to insult, I am in it for the long run and see a GREAT future in Mining!

[kobo_eth]

Is it worth buying S9 now ??

Dudes are constantly posting this everywhere in the forums - is mining profitable in such and such an date on such and such a machine? Is an S9/741/GPU/CPU/Raspberry Pi profitable to mine on yesterday / today / tomorrow?

You can't do anything more than guess at mining revenues beyond a couple difficulty cycles anyway, so ROI calculation is pretty useless. Cost of electricity is far less important than the anticipated exchange rate of BTC at a certain time in the future - that is really the only metric that matters. I'm sure all those folks that have high power rates and talked themselves out of mining at a loss (or when the ROI was theoretically far into the future) back when BTC was $400 are kicking themselves now, because they were using the entirely wrong metric to calculate ROI.

Along with up front investment and operational costs, you have to have a target goal for the exchange price of BTC built into your calculations. When we setup our farm earlier this year, mining at the current price of BTC (about $ 1600) + the price of electricity looked pretty dubious on paper. But when we set a target price of $10,000/BTC for Fall of 2018, the notion became quite profitable in theory. Nothing like BTC has ever existed before, so that's all it can be - a theory.  Will that happen? Who knows. But it's every bit as plausible any any other metric we might have used, so we went for it.

ROI/profitability over any reasonable period of time is a figure you just can't calculate anyway. Do you believe in BTC? Any investment in BTC via mining or trading is speculation. You invest funds you can afford to loose based on the possibility of a future high return. Many years (or days lol!) from now when BTC is $35,000 or $350,000 you will be glad you saw beyond things like power costs or if you would get your money back on your mining equipment in six months, and if BTC is $0 then you really didn't loose that much relative to the potential gain and you'll have some great 1400w space heaters that have the upside of sounding like fighter jet engines on the tarmac. Heat the house and imagine you're Maverick from Top Gun.

  "Engage Maverick - Engage! Ice Man is in trouble! You have to Engage!"  

Poor Goose.

The only thing for sure is the longer you wait around hand wringing about an unknowable variable like ROI, the less profit you are likely to make in the long run. Based on the information you can gather, what do YOU think (not someone else) is going to happen in the future? Trade on that and, win or loose, you'll always be OK.

Wow, very well said!

"I'm sure all those folks that have high power rates and talked themselves out of mining at a loss (or when the ROI was theoretically far into the future) back when BTC was $400 are kicking themselves now"

[leowonderful]

Is it worth buying S9 now ??

Dudes are constantly posting this everywhere in the forums - is mining profitable in such and such an date on such and such a machine? Is an S9/741/GPU/CPU/Raspberry Pi profitable to mine on yesterday / today / tomorrow?

You can't do anything more than guess at mining revenues beyond a couple difficulty cycles anyway, so ROI calculation is pretty useless. Cost of electricity is far less important than the anticipated exchange rate of BTC at a certain time in the future - that is really the only metric that matters. I'm sure all those folks that have high power rates and talked themselves out of mining at a loss (or when the ROI was theoretically far into the future) back when BTC was $400 are kicking themselves now, because they were using the entirely wrong metric to calculate ROI.

Along with up front investment and operational costs, you have to have a target goal for the exchange price of BTC built into your calculations. When we setup our farm earlier this year, mining at the current price of BTC (about $ 1600) + the price of electricity looked pretty dubious on paper. But when we set a target price of $10,000/BTC for Fall of 2018, the notion became quite profitable in theory. Nothing like BTC has ever existed before, so that's all it can be - a theory.  Will that happen? Who knows. But it's every bit as plausible any any other metric we might have used, so we went for it.

ROI/profitability over any reasonable period of time is a figure you just can't calculate anyway. Do you believe in BTC? Any investment in BTC via mining or trading is speculation. You invest funds you can afford to loose based on the possibility of a future high return. Many years (or days lol!) from now when BTC is $35,000 or $350,000 you will be glad you saw beyond things like power costs or if you would get your money back on your mining equipment in six months, and if BTC is $0 then you really didn't loose that much relative to the potential gain and you'll have some great 1400w space heaters that have the upside of sounding like fighter jet engines on the tarmac. Heat the house and imagine you're Maverick from Top Gun.

  "Engage Maverick - Engage! Ice Man is in trouble! You have to Engage!"  

Poor Goose.

The only thing for sure is the longer you wait around hand wringing about an unknowable variable like ROI, the less profit you are likely to make in the long run. Based on the information you can gather, what do YOU think (not someone else) is going to happen in the future? Trade on that and, win or loose, you'll always be OK.

Wow, very well said!

"I'm sure all those folks that have high power rates and talked themselves out of mining at a loss (or when the ROI was theoretically far into the future) back when BTC was $400 are kicking themselves now"

It's still risky nevertheless and you're taking a pretty big gamble; personally if I were going to do something like this I would just straight up buy Bitcoin. Still better to buy profitable miners or just hold imo but to each his own. I used to run an SP20 at a loss and with the price rises made my money back and then some.

[MN-Mining]

If any of you are seeing that there is no profitability for the S9s, just sell them to me for $1K, haha.  I do not mean to insult, I am in it for the long run and see a GREAT future in Mining!

Same here would possibly be up for paying retail even to give a full return to someone

[skippic]

For ordering is USD fine, or better to pay with BTC? I mean are there any problems one encounter with cash, like they only accept BTC for a certain batch or something similar?

[ordimans]

China supplier who change price everyday for S9 and L3....

[promojo]

If any of you are seeing that there is no profitability for the S9s, just sell them to me for $1K, haha.  I do not mean to insult, I am in it for the long run and see a GREAT future in Mining!

Well said!  I have had this belief for YEARS now.  It only gets better.