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January 08, 2018, 10:00:25 AM |
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Spamming refresh, got impatient, quickly got up for drink with phone in hand, then the telegram bot I downloaded a few weeks ago goes off which instantly sends me diving for the keyboard  Screw the spilled soda on the new rug I got my order in during that 2 minute window of availability  How did they sell out in 4 minutes? Did they only release 10 of the damn things? Your guess is as good as mine man. I forget which post I saw it on (maybe this one?) but I need to give mad props to who ever it was who posted about the bitmain notification bot on the telegram app. It posted an alert of availability at 04:12am and posted a sold out notification at 04:14am, damn thing was spot on. |
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kenji
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January 08, 2018, 10:01:51 AM
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Spamming refresh, got impatient, quickly got up for drink with phone in hand, then the telegram bot I downloaded a few weeks ago goes off which instantly sends me diving for the keyboard Screw the spilled soda on the new rug I got my order in during that 2 minute window of availability How did they sell out in 4 minutes? Did they only release 10 of the damn things? Your guess is as good as mine man. I forget which post I saw it on (maybe this one?) but I need to give mad props to who ever it was who posted about the bitmain notification bot on the telegram app. It posted an alert of availability at 04:12am and posted a sold out notification at 04:14am, damn thing was spot on. I've got it too, but for some reason by the time mine went off I was looking at the red buy button turn into a grey sold out button... |
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dlezama
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January 08, 2018, 11:16:56 AM |
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Once you've received your bitcoin mining hardware, you'll need to download a special program used for Bitcoin mining. There are many programs out there that can be used for Bitcoin mining, but the two most popular are CGminer and BFGminer which are command line programs.
WTF? Why don't you learn first, post second? |
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HagssFIN
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January 08, 2018, 11:22:48 AM |
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Once you've received your bitcoin mining hardware, you'll need to download a special program used for Bitcoin mining. There are many programs out there that can be used for Bitcoin mining, but the two most popular are CGminer and BFGminer which are command line programs.
This is completely useless post. You don't need to download anything when mining with the S9. It comes with the built-in software, which includes a Cgminer software fork called "BMminer". You access the S9 via the web configuration page using a web browser. |
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kobo_eth
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January 08, 2018, 02:45:17 PM |
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New batch coming in a couple of hours, their tweet: Releasing a new batch of the Antminer S9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner at 5PM today (8 Jan, GMT+8) here: https://goo.gl/tYUj8M Order then while the batch lasts! I wonder what the price will be, they haven't updated the site from last batch price of $2320 I know this is the S9 thread, but what about the L3+ did they say anything about that? I'm praying they release another March batch soon. Side note though, I just ran the numbers again, and apparently the 14 TH/s S9 makes ~$750 per month after electricity costs? That makes it more profitable than the L3+, giving it a better ROI time as well even though it costs more and uses more electricity. That's crazy because I was under the assumption that the L3+ was more profitable. I either buy from this S9 batch, or wait and pray they release another L3+ batch soon, when really it could be months, and if I miss this S9 batch I'm shit out of luck. I have one of each. Unfortunately one of my S9 boards died, and that is not uncommon. With 2 out of 3 boards the S9 makes the same money than the L3+ It's impossible to know what is going to happen in the future, but I'm more concerned about the Scrypt network getting saturated than about the SHA256 network. I bought a second S9 the other day, I wouldn't buy another L3+ right now. True. I just wonder what they're going to price this batch at, and if it will be March or April. I really hope the price isn't too much more than the last one. Correct me if I am wrong, but few weeks ago, the latest batch price for S9 miner was around 2800 USD (I remember, because it was exactly double price of what I paid for one in October - 1400 USD). The latest price today was 2320 USD, so I guess it is correcting as following the price of BTC/BCH. |
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exx1976
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January 08, 2018, 04:14:15 PM |
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New batch coming in a couple of hours, their tweet: Releasing a new batch of the Antminer S9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner at 5PM today (8 Jan, GMT+8) here: /tYUj8M]https://[Suspicious link removed]/tYUj8M Order then while the batch lasts! I wonder what the price will be, they haven't updated the site from last batch price of $2320 I know this is the S9 thread, but what about the L3+ did they say anything about that? I'm praying they release another March batch soon. Side note though, I just ran the numbers again, and apparently the 14 TH/s S9 makes ~$750 per month after electricity costs? That makes it more profitable than the L3+, giving it a better ROI time as well even though it costs more and uses more electricity. That's crazy because I was under the assumption that the L3+ was more profitable. I either buy from this S9 batch, or wait and pray they release another L3+ batch soon, when really it could be months, and if I miss this S9 batch I'm shit out of luck. I have one of each. Unfortunately one of my S9 boards died, and that is not uncommon. With 2 out of 3 boards the S9 makes the same money than the L3+ It's impossible to know what is going to happen in the future, but I'm more concerned about the Scrypt network getting saturated than about the SHA256 network. I bought a second S9 the other day, I wouldn't buy another L3+ right now. True. I just wonder what they're going to price this batch at, and if it will be March or April. I really hope the price isn't too much more than the last one. Correct me if I am wrong, but few weeks ago, the latest batch price for S9 miner was around 2800 USD (I remember, because it was exactly double price of what I paid for one in October - 1400 USD). The latest price today was 2320 USD, so I guess it is correcting as following the price of BTC/BCH. The last two times the S9 was on sale the price was $2320. The previous price was $2725. Prior to that I believe it was $1410 or so. Anything over $2000 w/PSU, delivered, is a bridge too far, IMO. Yes, they make money, but how much longer will they continue producing $30/day? Newer, faster machines are being released by competitors, difficulty will continue to rise, and Bitmain somehow thinks that justifies doubling the price? By the time the March batches deliver you could very easily be looking at a 200 day ROI on a $2600 machine (by the time you include shipping & PSU - not to mention any import taxes you may have to pay). |
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Ma907xB
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January 08, 2018, 05:07:54 PM |
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CrypotoCreanis
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January 08, 2018, 05:32:27 PM |
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kobo_eth
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January 08, 2018, 05:51:04 PM |
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17:00 GMT + 8 is Eastern Europe 11:00 (GMT + 2), London 9:00 am (GMT) and East Coast 4:00 am. I for sure checked the site at the correct time and all was greyed out; I guess they also sold it out immediately. |
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January 08, 2018, 05:53:43 PM |
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Ha! Didn’t realize that. I didn’t know they had multiple GMT. The website says ‘coming soon’. Historically when have they come up for sale when ‘coming soon’ is listed? |
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halfmil
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January 08, 2018, 08:28:34 PM |
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The price of the batch changes with the price of what bitcoin is at the time when they release them. It is a factor in how they price the machines. It can go up and down just like the price of bitcoin. When it was over $2700 for an s9 bitcoin was around 18-19k. Back in early November when it was $1400 for an s9 bitcoin was in the 6-8K range. If bitcoin gets up to around 30k expect to see them being priced around $4800. If bitcoin goes down to $8000 you can expect them to be priced around $1400 again.
I believe this batch sold out quicker because it was the left over ones that people did not pay for when they released them on the 3rd. They usually wait about 5 days to give everyone time to pay for them and if they don't they put the unpaid ones back up for sale. They say you have an hour to complete payment but they give you a little more time. The order may expire but if the payment goes through within the day or two following they will mark your expired order paid and valid usually. So everyone sitting at their computer all night waiting for them to put the ones people did not pay for in an hour back up can just forget about it and wait a few days. However it is best to make the payment quickly because your spot in the shipping line is determined by when they get payment. This was the first batch for March. Expect to see the second batch for the end of march come up for sale probably in about another week or two.
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kenji
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January 08, 2018, 08:34:57 PM
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The price of the batch changes with the price of what bitcoin is at the time when they release them. It is a factor in how they price the machines. It can go up and down just like the price of bitcoin. When it was over $2700 for an s9 bitcoin was around 18-19k. Back in early November when it was $1400 for an s9 bitcoin was in the 6-8K range. If bitcoin gets up to around 30k expect to see them being priced around $4800. If bitcoin goes down to $8000 you can expect them to be priced around $1400 again.
I believe this batch sold out quicker because it was the left over ones that people did not pay for when they released them on the 3rd. They usually wait about 5 days to give everyone time to pay for them and if they don't they put them back up for sale. They say you have an hour to complete payment but they give you a little more time. The order may expire but if the payment goes through within the day or two following they will mark your expired order paid and valid usually. This was the first batch for March. Expect to see the second batch for march come up for sale probably in about another week or two.
Yeah, it makes more sense that this batch was leftovers because there were hardly any for sale. I'll be waiting for their next batch, hopefully they release soon so I can get in, lol. I'm just afraid of a hike in price, but like you said their price usually correlates with what bitcoin is doing, so the price shouldn't change much unless the price of bitcoin does. |
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halfmil
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January 08, 2018, 09:07:44 PM |
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, they make money, but how much longer will they continue producing $30/day? Newer, faster machines are being released by competitors, difficulty will continue to rise, and Bitmain somehow thinks that justifies doubling the price? By the time the March batches deliver you could very easily be looking at a 200 day ROI on a $2600 machine (by the time you include shipping & PSU - not to mention any import taxes you may have to pay).
No one knows what will happen. These could be making $5 a day in march or $50 a day. They could be worthless before you even get them or they could be selling for $12,000 on eBay and you couldn't get your hands on one for 6 months. The question is are you a gambler? |
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Druiz287
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January 08, 2018, 09:29:07 PM |
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I'm bummed that I missed this sale. I remember last month they were only accepting BCH payments. Was it like that this time around too or can we pay with BTC?
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kenji
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January 08, 2018, 09:29:58 PM |
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, they make money, but how much longer will they continue producing $30/day? Newer, faster machines are being released by competitors, difficulty will continue to rise, and Bitmain somehow thinks that justifies doubling the price? By the time the March batches deliver you could very easily be looking at a 200 day ROI on a $2600 machine (by the time you include shipping & PSU - not to mention any import taxes you may have to pay).
No one knows what will happen. These could be making $5 a day in march or $50 a day. They could be worthless before you even get them or they could be selling for $12,000 on eBay and you couldn't get your hands on one for 6 months. The question is are you a gambler? That's the exciting part for me, because I truly do believe in crypto and it's future potential. That belief has allowed me to mine no matter what. In the unlikely event that bitcoin tanks way way way down and these things cost more in electricity than they generate in bitcoin, I'll still be mining, because I know that I'm getting bitcoin for cheap before it eventually goes back up. I love it, it's a win/win no matter what |
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kenji
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January 08, 2018, 09:30:47 PM |
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I'm bummed that I missed this sale. I remember last month they were only accepting BCH payments. Was it like that this time around too or can we pay with BTC?
This one was only BCH. It took me about half a day to get my BTC converted to BCH, so make sure you do so ahead of time to be sure. |
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January 08, 2018, 09:40:40 PM |
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, they make money, but how much longer will they continue producing $30/day? Newer, faster machines are being released by competitors, difficulty will continue to rise, and Bitmain somehow thinks that justifies doubling the price? By the time the March batches deliver you could very easily be looking at a 200 day ROI on a $2600 machine (by the time you include shipping & PSU - not to mention any import taxes you may have to pay).
No one knows what will happen. These could be making $5 a day in march or $50 a day. They could be worthless before you even get them or they could be selling for $12,000 on eBay and you couldn't get your hands on one for 6 months. The question is are you a gambler? Yep, that is the question and the risk. That's why we're all in this. |
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January 08, 2018, 09:41:27 PM |
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, they make money, but how much longer will they continue producing $30/day? Newer, faster machines are being released by competitors, difficulty will continue to rise, and Bitmain somehow thinks that justifies doubling the price? By the time the March batches deliver you could very easily be looking at a 200 day ROI on a $2600 machine (by the time you include shipping & PSU - not to mention any import taxes you may have to pay).
No one knows what will happen. These could be making $5 a day in march or $50 a day. They could be worthless before you even get them or they could be selling for $12,000 on eBay and you couldn't get your hands on one for 6 months. The question is are you a gambler? That's the exciting part for me, because I truly do believe in crypto and it's future potential. That belief has allowed me to mine no matter what. In the unlikely event that bitcoin tanks way way way down and these things cost more in electricity than they generate in bitcoin, I'll still be mining, because I know that I'm getting bitcoin for cheap before it eventually goes back up. I love it, it's a win/win no matter what There's a smart guy. Short term blips mean zip...all about the long run. |
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halfmil
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January 08, 2018, 10:20:53 PM |
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, they make money, but how much longer will they continue producing $30/day? Newer, faster machines are being released by competitors, difficulty will continue to rise, and Bitmain somehow thinks that justifies doubling the price? By the time the March batches deliver you could very easily be looking at a 200 day ROI on a $2600 machine (by the time you include shipping & PSU - not to mention any import taxes you may have to pay).
No one knows what will happen. These could be making $5 a day in march or $50 a day. They could be worthless before you even get them or they could be selling for $12,000 on eBay and you couldn't get your hands on one for 6 months. The question is are you a gambler? That's the exciting part for me, because I truly do believe in crypto and it's future potential. That belief has allowed me to mine no matter what. In the unlikely event that bitcoin tanks way way way down and these things cost more in electricity than they generate in bitcoin, I'll still be mining, because I know that I'm getting bitcoin for cheap before it eventually goes back up. I love it, it's a win/win no matter what There's a smart guy. Short term blips mean zip...all about the long run. Some people years ago unplugged their miners when they were only making 1 bitcoin a day with them because the price of bitcoin was so low that it didn't cover the cost of the electricity. In hindsight that was a bad decision and hindsight is always 20/20. Mining is just a more passive way of investing. As miners all we can do is mine and hope that the price rises in the future. In some cases the money you spend on a miner would have been better off used to just buy the coin instead. If the price of a coin is going vertical it maybe better to just buy the coin. If you think the coins price will go sideways for a while the best option is probably to mine. If the price goes down the difficulty usually adjusts and you just mine more coins. If bitcoin goes to zero it doesn't matter how many you have zero is zero. It's all a gamble. If there is anything I have learned in life it is there is no reward without risk and it takes money to make money. I like mining because it feels like I'm actually doing something on a daily basis instead of sitting around waiting for the price to rise. |
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January 08, 2018, 10:42:57 PM |
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, they make money, but how much longer will they continue producing $30/day? Newer, faster machines are being released by competitors, difficulty will continue to rise, and Bitmain somehow thinks that justifies doubling the price? By the time the March batches deliver you could very easily be looking at a 200 day ROI on a $2600 machine (by the time you include shipping & PSU - not to mention any import taxes you may have to pay).
No one knows what will happen. These could be making $5 a day in march or $50 a day. They could be worthless before you even get them or they could be selling for $12,000 on eBay and you couldn't get your hands on one for 6 months. The question is are you a gambler? That's the exciting part for me, because I truly do believe in crypto and it's future potential. That belief has allowed me to mine no matter what. In the unlikely event that bitcoin tanks way way way down and these things cost more in electricity than they generate in bitcoin, I'll still be mining, because I know that I'm getting bitcoin for cheap before it eventually goes back up. I love it, it's a win/win no matter what There's a smart guy. Short term blips mean zip...all about the long run. If there is anything I have learned in life it is there is no reward without risk and it takes money to make money. You got that right. A favorite quote of mine: "A man can never drink his fill by waiting in line for the tap." |
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