RX480 retail selling premium

[64dimensions]

 While the RX480 stated retail list price is $199, what do people think the retail premium will be during the first couple of weeks?

IIRC, around 01/2014, 280's and 290's had a quantity 1 premium of about $30 - $50 depending on brand.

Also, has anyone ever attempted a group buy for GPU's?

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[Amph]

i think 250 at early, then you need to wait one month for the price to drop

but it depend on the demand, if the demand is too havy, the price might increase beyond expectation, like it happened in the past with amd for the 280x

[ViperBessa]

Hello, Anyone know tell how much power this card Rx 480 in mining Mhs - Hashimoto ?

[philipma1957]

While the RX480 stated retail list price is $199, what do people think the retail premium will be during the first couple of weeks?

IIRC, around 01/2014, 280's and 290's had a quantity 1 premium of about $30 - $50 depending on brand.

Also, has anyone ever attempted a group buy for GPU's?

Yes and it turned into a scam. Maybe 150 gpus were paid for and the guy scammed everyone.

I have a contact at provantage.com.  I could ask if he can get bulk and what discount he will give.

I live in New Jersey 07731 zip.

[reb0rn21]

Hello, Anyone know tell how much power this card Rx 480 in mining Mhs - Hashimoto ?

You know that NONE have the Rx 480 in hand??

[Junamalik]

RX 480 running with small bit, im not sure it's worthed to buy it for mining.

[philipma1957]

RX 480 running with small bit, im not sure it's worthed to buy it for mining.

It should do 28mh at under 200 watts for 199 usd.

And maybe it will be available in early july

[asdalani]

RX 480 running with small bit, im not sure it's worthed to buy it for mining.

It should do 28mh at under 200 watts for 199 usd.

And maybe it will be available in early july

28 MH/s at 200 is about 7.1J/MH. That is worse then the R9 390 (undervolt ones). The 390 will also be cheaper too.

[coinyard]

I think the 480RX can do 22 MH/s at around 100W. If so, I will not sell my 390 to buy the 480 RX any time soon.

[Amph]

RX 480 running with small bit, im not sure it's worthed to buy it for mining.

It should do 28mh at under 200 watts for 199 usd.

And maybe it will be available in early july

28 MH/s at 200 is about 7.1J/MH. That is worse then the R9 390 (undervolt ones). The 390 will also be cheaper too.

phil is wrong there, it's more like 22-25 at 100w or lower, there is no way a 390 will be better

[64dimensions]

Yes and it turned into a scam. Maybe 150 gpus were paid for and the guy scammed everyone.

I have a contact at provantage.com.  I could ask if he can get bulk and what discount he will give.

I live in New Jersey 07731 zip.


Phil,

I would think it would be worth looking into.

Between here and the ETH forum, I would think there would be a lot of interest.

[philipma1957]

Yes and it turned into a scam. Maybe 150 gpus were paid for and the guy scammed everyone.

I have a contact at provantage.com.  I could ask if he can get bulk and what discount he will give.

I live in New Jersey 07731 zip.


Phil,

I would think it would be worth looking into.

Between here and the ETH forum, I would think there would be a lot of interest.

I emailed for a 50 card price and a 100 card price.  If I do this it has to be a decent price.

[philipma1957]

RX 480 running with small bit, im not sure it's worthed to buy it for mining.

It should do 28mh at under 200 watts for 199 usd.

And maybe it will be available in early july

28 MH/s at 200 is about 7.1J/MH. That is worse then the R9 390 (undervolt ones). The 390 will also be cheaper too.

phil is wrong there, it's more like 22-25 at 100w or lower, there is no way a 390 will be better

Strong chance I got the numbers wrong   since I can't find the post I read from the guy that claims to have tested the r9 480.

 And I read and post way too much so a numbers mixup is easy.

[Bokelka]

RX 480 running with small bit, im not sure it's worthed to buy it for mining.

It should do 28mh at under 200 watts for 199 usd.

And maybe it will be available in early july

28 MH/s at 200 is about 7.1J/MH. That is worse then the R9 390 (undervolt ones). The 390 will also be cheaper too.

phil is wrong there, it's more like 22-25 at 100w or lower, there is no way a 390 will be better

Strong chance I got the numbers wrong   since I can't find the post I read from the guy that claims to have tested the r9 480.

 And I read and post way too much so a numbers mixup is easy.

22-25 at 100 W is worse than the R9 nano. But the Nano's price is much higher than the $200 range.

[Amph]

RX 480 running with small bit, im not sure it's worthed to buy it for mining.

It should do 28mh at under 200 watts for 199 usd.

And maybe it will be available in early july

28 MH/s at 200 is about 7.1J/MH. That is worse then the R9 390 (undervolt ones). The 390 will also be cheaper too.

phil is wrong there, it's more like 22-25 at 100w or lower, there is no way a 390 will be better

Strong chance I got the numbers wrong   since I can't find the post I read from the guy that claims to have tested the r9 480.

 And I read and post way too much so a numbers mixup is easy.

22-25 at 100 W is worse than the R9 nano. But the Nano's price is much higher than the $200 range.

don't compare tdp with the actual possible wattage, nano was tweaked to death, its consumption was much higher than the current one you can have with that mod

the same is possible for the 480, i'm sure it can be lowered to 80w or lower, while remaining above 20MH in hash speed

[Marvell1]

Yes and it turned into a scam. Maybe 150 gpus were paid for and the guy scammed everyone.

I have a contact at provantage.com.  I could ask if he can get bulk and what discount he will give.

I live in New Jersey 07731 zip.


Phil,

I would think it would be worth looking into.

Between here and the ETH forum, I would think there would be a lot of interest.

I emailed for a 50 card price and a 100 card price.  If I do this it has to be a decent price.

would need to be like 500 cards to get a good price lol

[Vegetablepin]

This will probably hash at 24-26 mh while pulling 120/40w

[FruitBucket]

When will be the RX 480 on sale? Cannot wait to get one. What is the preorder price in your country?

[asdalani]

When will be the RX 480 on sale? Cannot wait to get one. What is the preorder price in your country?

I heard that is 27 June. But that could be just rumours. The initial price will be much higher than $199.

[64dimensions]

Yes and it turned into a scam. Maybe 150 gpus were paid for and the guy scammed everyone.

I have a contact at provantage.com.  I could ask if he can get bulk and what discount he will give.

I live in New Jersey 07731 zip.


Phil,

I would think it would be worth looking into.

Between here and the ETH forum, I would think there would be a lot of interest.

I emailed for a 50 card price and a 100 card price.  If I do this it has to be a decent price.

would need to be like 500 cards to get a good price lol



500 is still in the realm of possibility, after all, 18 months ago there was a 200+ unit SP20 GB.

Also a smaller quantity could move the supplier into the next price break.

[coinyard]

When will be the RX 480 on sale? Cannot wait to get one. What is the preorder price in your country?

I heard that is 27 June. But that could be just rumours. The initial price will be much higher than $199.

In the US, the price could be just above $200. But in the UK or Europe, the price could be $300 or higher.

[jack80]

300 with 8gb and tax .

[coinyard]

300 with 8gb and tax .

In Europe, the price of 8 GB version could be $400 with tax. It is always more than 30% higher than US.

[Longsnowsm]

Phil, are you trying to organize a group buy?  Or are those 50 or 100 gpu's just your own personal stash? LOL  If your thinking about setting up a group buy I would be interested.

[Bokelka]

Phil, are you trying to organize a group buy?  Or are those 50 or 100 gpu's just your own personal stash? LOL  If your thinking about setting up a group buy I would be interested.

Are you so confident that the mining is still profitable after 4 months? The difficulty double every two months now.

[Longsnowsm]

Phil, are you trying to organize a group buy?  Or are those 50 or 100 gpu's just your own personal stash? LOL  If your thinking about setting up a group buy I would be interested.

Are you so confident that the mining is still profitable after 4 months? The difficulty double every two months now.

NOPE!  Which is why I wouldn't recommend anyone follow my lead! ROFL  The only thing that is for sure is "change". 

[asdalani]

Phil, are you trying to organize a group buy?  Or are those 50 or 100 gpu's just your own personal stash? LOL  If your thinking about setting up a group buy I would be interested.

Are you so confident that the mining is still profitable after 4 months? The difficulty double every two months now.

NOPE!  Which is why I wouldn't recommend anyone follow my lead! ROFL  The only thing that is for sure is "change". 

When you want to group buy of 50/100 cards, that will increase the mining difficulty a little bitcoin. So I hope hope other people to follow your lead.

[Longsnowsm]

It wasn't me that was looking at 50 or 100 gpu's.  It was Phil, but I think he was looking at a bulk arrangement with a vendor.  Not sure if that was for a group buy or if he was going to buy that many for himself.  If someone organizes a group buy at a decent price I wouldn't be opposed to that! :-)

[Redrose]

I think that we'll unfortunately see a 50$ premium for at least the two first weeks. I hope that it won't be that bad, but I doubt it will ...

[philipma1957]

It wasn't me that was looking at 50 or 100 gpu's.  It was Phil, but I think he was looking at a bulk arrangement with a vendor.  Not sure if that was for a group buy or if he was going to buy that many for himself.  If someone organizes a group buy at a decent price I wouldn't be opposed to that! :-)

my vendor has not contacted me on a price for 50 cards.  At the moment I have 2 on order from bhphoto.

8 on notify me from newegg.

If I get 50 at an okay price I need 15 and will sell the other 35 at a tiny markup. to usa buyers only.

The markup would be  tiny 5 bucks for me and shipping would be on you.  but frankly this looks like a remote event

[Longsnowsm]

That sounds good Phil, keep us posted... I would be interested if you get a decent price on them. 

[Dev_Sempak_coin]

Hello, Anyone know tell how much power this card Rx 480 in mining Mhs - Hashimoto ?

arround 21mhs ceck my post

[U253]

just get the price in Canada, its $350 CAD plus 13% tax, 8G from MSI (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=AS2222184336). The same thing is listed as $249 USD in the states.

currently $250 USD=$325 CAD, not that bad.

[greaterninja]

From what I am observing there should be a LOT of supply.  As in hundreds to thousands of cards at the major retailers.

Unfortunately, noone has released stock yet in NA...motherfuckers.


Oh yeah...since the 480 vs 470 specs:


480:   1266 MHZ GPU   vs 470:  1206 MHZ GPU
480:   256-bit bus         vs 470:  256-bit bus
480:   2000MHZ RAM    vs 470:  1750 MHZ RAM
480:   256 GB/s            vs 470:  224 GB/s
480:   TDP:  150W        vs 470:  110W


Release Date is stated as June for both.

I may just go with 470 cards.

[Redrose]

From what I am observing there should be a LOT of supply.  As in hundreds to thousands of cards at the major retailers.

Unfortunately, noone has released stock yet in NA...motherfuckers.


Oh yeah...since the 480 vs 470 specs:


480:   1266 MHZ GPU   vs 470:  1206 MHZ GPU
480:   256-bit bus         vs 470:  256-bit bus
480:   2000MHZ RAM    vs 470:  1750 MHZ RAM
480:   256 GB/s            vs 470:  224 GB/s
480:   TDP:  150W        vs 470:  110W


Release Date is stated as June for both.

I may just go with 470 cards.

That's what I'll do. I'm just waiting for someone to let me buy them to take a couple as a test, for maybe buy more later.

[Kewatia]

From what I am observing there should be a LOT of supply.  As in hundreds to thousands of cards at the major retailers.

Unfortunately, noone has released stock yet in NA...motherfuckers.


Oh yeah...since the 480 vs 470 specs:


480:   1266 MHZ GPU   vs 470:  1206 MHZ GPU
480:   256-bit bus         vs 470:  256-bit bus
480:   2000MHZ RAM    vs 470:  1750 MHZ RAM
480:   256 GB/s            vs 470:  224 GB/s
480:   TDP:  150W        vs 470:  110W


Release Date is stated as June for both.

I may just go with 470 cards.

I saw somewhere that if the memory frequency of 480 RX is 2000MHz, you can down clock core to 1000 MHz without affecting the the hash. So 470 could be good.

[PanneKopp]

Hi Folks,

I caught 2 pieces (germany) - should be here tomorrow.

... I´ll keep you updated !

  KanneKopp

[asdalani]

From what I am observing there should be a LOT of supply.  As in hundreds to thousands of cards at the major retailers.

Unfortunately, noone has released stock yet in NA...motherfuckers.


Oh yeah...since the 480 vs 470 specs:


480:   1266 MHZ GPU   vs 470:  1206 MHZ GPU
480:   256-bit bus         vs 470:  256-bit bus
480:   2000MHZ RAM    vs 470:  1750 MHZ RAM
480:   256 GB/s            vs 470:  224 GB/s
480:   TDP:  150W        vs 470:  110W


Release Date is stated as June for both.

I may just go with 470 cards.

I saw somewhere that if the memory frequency of 480 RX is 2000MHz, you can down clock core to 1000 MHz without affecting the the hash. So 470 could be good.

One post in another forum said 950 MHz for the core can mine without affecting the hashing rate for Eth.

[reb0rn21]

This is not so good, prices for Aftermarket Custom Radeon RX 480 Designs :
ASUS (S$409)
Gigabyte (S$409)
HIS (S$389)
MSI (S$399)
PowerColor (S$388)
Sapphire (S$399)

http://techfrag.com/2016/06/30/aftermarket-custom-radeon-rx-480-designs/

[Kewatia]

This is not so good, prices for Aftermarket Custom Radeon RX 480 Designs :
ASUS (S$409)
Gigabyte (S$409)
HIS (S$389)
MSI (S$399)
PowerColor (S$388)
Sapphire (S$399)

http://techfrag.com/2016/06/30/aftermarket-custom-radeon-rx-480-designs/

At those price and the difficulty of the Ethereum mining doubles every two months, you will not have ROI.

[profall]

Give it a few more weeks for suppliers to catch up. Paying the premium to get it right now is just not worth it in the long run.

[Psynthax]

Here where I am it is usual that they pump the price of all hardware, so referent RX 480 4GB is $300, so yeah..

[anthonydar]

Here where I am it is usual that they pump the price of all hardware, so referent RX 480 4GB is $300, so yeah..

I think the price of the cards is not economical to mine to get ROI. But if you wait for 470, by the time you get it, the difficulty will be 50% higher.

[FruitBucket]

Here where I am it is usual that they pump the price of all hardware, so referent RX 480 4GB is $300, so yeah..

I think the price of the cards is not economical to mine to get ROI. But if you wait for 470, by the time you get it, the difficulty will be 50% higher.

That is right. the difficulty is rising 40% of months at the moment. Are they the exisitng miners expanding?

[Kewatia]

Here where I am it is usual that they pump the price of all hardware, so referent RX 480 4GB is $300, so yeah..

I think the price of the cards is not economical to mine to get ROI. But if you wait for 470, by the time you get it, the difficulty will be 50% higher.

That is right. the difficulty is rising 40% of months at the moment. Are they the exisitng miners expanding?

The news might not be good.
https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8091/480s-are-allegedly-out-of-pcie-spec-for-power-draw-be-careful-if-you-just-purchased-one#latest

[Psynthax]

Yeah. it seems like I will be waiting custom ones with more power connectors and better cooling..

waiting 2 more weeks should not be a problem..

[asdalani]

Give it a few more weeks for suppliers to catch up. Paying the premium to get it right now is just not worth it in the long run.

If you buy the RX 480 in a month, the difficulty will rise 40%, that mean you will mine 40% fewer Ethereum.

[Kewatia]

Give it a few more weeks for suppliers to catch up. Paying the premium to get it right now is just not worth it in the long run.

If you buy the RX 480 in a month, the difficulty will rise 40%, that mean you will mine 40% fewer Ethereum.

It all depends on the difficulty rise. I reckon the rise will slow a bit now. As the 480 is destroying people's rigs.

[Bokelka]

Give it a few more weeks for suppliers to catch up. Paying the premium to get it right now is just not worth it in the long run.

If you buy the RX 480 in a month, the difficulty will rise 40%, that mean you will mine 40% fewer Ethereum.

It all depends on the difficulty rise. I reckon the rise will slow a bit now. As the 480 is destroying people's rigs.

In a few days, there will be a driver to tackle this problem. I just hope people will not suffer in between.

[asdalani]

Official statement in response to PCIE power draw:

"As you know, we continuously tune our GPUs in order to maximize their performance within their given power envelopes and the speed of the memory interface, which in this case is an unprecedented 8 Gbps for GDDR5. Recently, we identified select scenarios where the tuning of some RX 480 boards was not optimal. Fortunately, we can adjust the GPU's tuning via software in order to resolve this issue. We are already testing a driver that implements a fix, and we will provide an update to the community on our progress on Tuesday (July 5, 2016)."