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[BADecker]

Saved from what hell and damnation, I saved myself a long time ago, maybe you should wake up from that delusional coma you are in.

Don't tell me you are over a hundred years old, then. How old? Five hundred? A thousand? Show us your greatness. We wanna see some of your great stup... I mean wisdom.

Me   Well I am old as Methuselah himself, knowledge passed down through genetics, my entire family have the same traits as me.
It is common where I come from, we see shit for what it is (SHIT).it will always be this way for future generations, I am happy the way I am.
No outsiders can influence us, not even the likes of you and your ilk.

Ah. A retarded liar, then.   

See, it is whatever you believe it is, am I right?

You mean you are agreeing with me?   

[Racey]

Saved from what hell and damnation, I saved myself a long time ago, maybe you should wake up from that delusional coma you are in.

Don't tell me you are over a hundred years old, then. How old? Five hundred? A thousand? Show us your greatness. We wanna see some of your great stup... I mean wisdom.

Me   Well I am old as Methuselah himself, knowledge passed down through genetics, my entire family have the same traits as me.
It is common where I come from, we see shit for what it is (SHIT).it will always be this way for future generations, I am happy the way I am.
No outsiders can influence us, not even the likes of you and your ilk.

Ah. A retarded liar, then.   

See, it is whatever you believe it is, am I right?

You mean you are agreeing with me?   

No you believe what you want and let me believe in what I want also, I do not impose my beliefs on you or anyone else, I suggest you do the same.
We have to have our own free thoughts and will, not imposed upon.
You should very well know this.

[BADecker]

Saved from what hell and damnation, I saved myself a long time ago, maybe you should wake up from that delusional coma you are in.

Don't tell me you are over a hundred years old, then. How old? Five hundred? A thousand? Show us your greatness. We wanna see some of your great stup... I mean wisdom.

Me   Well I am old as Methuselah himself, knowledge passed down through genetics, my entire family have the same traits as me.
It is common where I come from, we see shit for what it is (SHIT).it will always be this way for future generations, I am happy the way I am.
No outsiders can influence us, not even the likes of you and your ilk.

Ah. A retarded liar, then.   

See, it is whatever you believe it is, am I right?

You mean you are agreeing with me?   

No you believe what you want and let me believe in what I want also, I do not impose my beliefs on you or anyone else, I suggest you do the same.
We have to have our own free thoughts and will, not imposed upon.
You should very well know this.

I can't stop you from believing whatever it is that you believe. But maybe I can show you that your belief constitutes a religion, even when you think that it doesn't.

[stockmarket123]

It's 2016 people, end of discussion. If you believe any religion text by text, there is not even a discussion that you are ignorant.

[jupiterdianysa]

http://gobeklitepe.info/
Have a look at this before speaking about religion and old stff.. thats the oldest temple found/excavated in the world so far. Small info about archeology may actually  change your point of view to religion.

The earth is only about 6200 years old at the most - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm. Carbon dating is off for times before the Great Flood of Noah's day (less than 5000 years ago), because nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Gobekli Tepe was filled in by the people after the Great Flood, children and descendants of Noah. Why? Because they realized that this site was one of the reasons why God brought the Flood on the earth in the first place. They didn't want to anger God again so something worse would happen. So they hid the site by burying it.

So far, only about one fiftieth of the site has been excavated. Let's stop, before we bring the wrath of God on our generations, as well.

This comment makes no sense.. makes me laugh hard tho..

[Moloch]

...nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Really?

Really?

Carbon was different 5000 years ago?

Prove it!

No experiment has ever suggested such a thing (like every claim you make)

How would a radioactive half-life be different back then?  How does that make sense, even in your world?

[BADecker]

http://gobeklitepe.info/
Have a look at this before speaking about religion and old stff.. thats the oldest temple found/excavated in the world so far. Small info about archeology may actually  change your point of view to religion.

The earth is only about 6200 years old at the most - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm. Carbon dating is off for times before the Great Flood of Noah's day (less than 5000 years ago), because nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Gobekli Tepe was filled in by the people after the Great Flood, children and descendants of Noah. Why? Because they realized that this site was one of the reasons why God brought the Flood on the earth in the first place. They didn't want to anger God again so something worse would happen. So they hid the site by burying it.

So far, only about one fiftieth of the site has been excavated. Let's stop, before we bring the wrath of God on our generations, as well.

Are you nuts?  6200 years old?  You base this on stone age wiki, aka a Bible.
40+ people contributed to this book that was finally compiled (voted on) in 325 AD.

Great flood?  Really.  How we go from Noah and his wife to 7 billion of people, genetic variation, different races etc in 5000 years?

You cannot be serious.

What is the "energy of Earth"?

Serious? When you look into science, you will see that at the base of their arguments that the age of the earth is billions of years, they are simply picking an idea out of thin air for the sake of orderliness. They don't have a clue other than that.

At the time that the Bible was made into its basic form that we have today (325 AD), there were multitudes of other books that people were attempting to add to it. The current form took the best of the solid books, and threw out the junk books. That which is there is eye-witness records. Believe the eye witness records of the people that were there at the time, or believe the scientists that are just guessing or totally playing.

Have you ever looked at how many kids the Mexicans and Arabs have in their families? We the civilized, advanced people are only advanced in self delusion. If things keep on going like they are, Mexicans and Arabs will out-populate us easily... and not too many years from now.

Energy of the Earth is simply as it is stated. Look the words up in a dictionary. I don't have time to quote all the dictionaries here.

[BADecker]

...nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Really?

Really?

Carbon was different 5000 years ago?

Prove it!

No experiment has ever suggested such a thing (like every claim you make)

How would a radioactive half-life be different back then?  How does that make sense, even in your world?

Science is the ones making the assertions. Let them prove C-14 was the same if they can. After all, Gobekli Tepe among many other things show that there were great upheavals all over the earth. Why would anyone even think that there weren't upheavals in the way physics acts? Current science about the distant past is all guesswork.

[Moloch]

...nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Really?

Really?

Carbon was different 5000 years ago?

Prove it!

No experiment has ever suggested such a thing (like every claim you make)

How would a radioactive half-life be different back then?  How does that make sense, even in your world?

Science is the ones making the assertions. Let them prove C-14 was the same if they can.

Science has proven this to the extent that it can be proven without a time machine

Half-life is a half-life... that's simply what it is... if you do not understand a half-life, aka radioactive decay, you have no business commenting on C-14 dating


If you claim things worked differently in the past than they do today... that is YOUR claim... YOU need to provide evidence

One reason NOBODY takes you seriously is because you make such bullshit claims without any evidence at all to support it... it's all lies, misinformation and propaganda


Your posts are equivalent to, "Everyone knows leprechauns exist... science proves leprechauns exist... even if you don't believe in leprechauns, you believe in leprechauns... leprechauns exist because the world was different 5000 years ago"

Do you actually think that is convincing anyone of anything besides your lack of grasp on reality?

[BADecker]

...nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Really?

Really?

Carbon was different 5000 years ago?

Prove it!

No experiment has ever suggested such a thing (like every claim you make)

How would a radioactive half-life be different back then?  How does that make sense, even in your world?

Science is the ones making the assertions. Let them prove C-14 was the same if they can.

Science has proven this to the extent that it can be proven without a time machine

Half-life is a half-life... that's simply what it is... if you do not understand a half-life, aka radioactive decay, you have no business commenting on C-14 dating


If you claim things worked differently in the past than they do today... that is YOUR claim... YOU need to provide evidence

One reason NOBODY takes you seriously is because you make such bullshit claims without any evidence at all to support it... it's all lies, misinformation and propaganda

Things working different in the past is the claim of science. Look at Big Bang. Things worked different back then. But nobody even knows that there was a Big Bang. Science is so mixed up, that there isn't any reason to believe a word they say.

C-14 amounts present today are not reliable because nobody knows for sure how much C-14 existed back prior to the Great Flood. If there were 100 times the C-14 present back then as we think now, it would throw the whole C-14 science off. And if there were 100 times less, it would be the same. We don't know how much there was back then. We are just guessing that it was similar as today.

[jupiterdianysa]

I guess some people needs to go back to hgh school for a start over with history, physics,maths, geology or biology.
If you actually look for an area without proofs thats theology for sure. What to do with mexicans or arabic families' kids?  What you mean there is gross!  You must be kidding, jokin and havin some kind of alien fun there i guess

[BADecker]

I guess some people needs to go back to hgh school for a start over with history, physics,maths, geology or biology.
If you actually look for an area without proofs thats theology for sure. What to do with mexicans or arabic families' kids?  What you mean there is gross!  You must be kidding, jokin and havin some kind of alien fun there i guess

Go back to the basics of the scientific papers regarding how old the earth is. All these papers use words like "if and "maybe," and many other words that show that they do not know for sure how old the earth is.

As far as Mexican and Arab populations increasing faster than European and American, it is a fact. We Americans and Europeans are birth-controlling ourselves out of existence, at least with relation to Mexicans and Arabs.

[Racey]

I guess some people needs to go back to hgh school for a start over with history, physics,maths, geology or biology.
If you actually look for an area without proofs thats theology for sure. What to do with mexicans or arabic families' kids?  What you mean there is gross!  You must be kidding, jokin and havin some kind of alien fun there i guess

Go back to the basics of the scientific papers regarding how old the earth is. All these papers use words like "if and "maybe," and many other words that show that they do not know for sure how old the earth is.

As far as Mexican and Arab populations increasing faster than European and American, it is a fact. We Americans and Europeans are birth-controlling ourselves out of existence, at least with relation to Mexicans and Arabs.

All speculation that just what the Bible is, good to see that from you.
Now don't be two faced about it (Contradict yourself)

[Moloch]

...nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Really?

Really?

Carbon was different 5000 years ago?

Prove it!

No experiment has ever suggested such a thing (like every claim you make)

How would a radioactive half-life be different back then?  How does that make sense, even in your world?

Science is the ones making the assertions. Let them prove C-14 was the same if they can.

Science has proven this to the extent that it can be proven without a time machine

Half-life is a half-life... that's simply what it is... if you do not understand a half-life, aka radioactive decay, you have no business commenting on C-14 dating


If you claim things worked differently in the past than they do today... that is YOUR claim... YOU need to provide evidence

One reason NOBODY takes you seriously is because you make such bullshit claims without any evidence at all to support it... it's all lies, misinformation and propaganda

Things working different in the past is the claim of science. Look at Big Bang. Things worked different back then. But nobody even knows that there was a Big Bang. Science is so mixed up, that there isn't any reason to believe a word they say.

C-14 amounts present today are not reliable because nobody knows for sure how much C-14 existed back prior to the Great Flood. If there were 100 times the C-14 present back then as we think now, it would throw the whole C-14 science off. And if there were 100 times less, it would be the same. We don't know how much there was back then. We are just guessing that it was similar as today.

You are simply wrong

Science has shown that matter cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed

Science is familiar with the only natural mechanism which transforms lighter elements into carbon (supernova explosions of stars)

Science understands what a half-life is, and why that is important when dating radioactive elements

Science knows for certain there was not a supernova explosion nearby during the past 5000 years

Therefore, it is clear that the amount of C-14 has not changed in the last 5000 years (except through natural process of atomic decay)

Your claim that it has changed, has not met the burden of proof... this is how science works... you are wrong... like always

[jupiterdianysa]

I guess some people needs to go back to hgh school for a start over with history, physics,maths, geology or biology.
If you actually look for an area without proofs thats theology for sure. What to do with mexicans or arabic families' kids?  What you mean there is gross!  You must be kidding, jokin and havin some kind of alien fun there i guess

Go back to the basics of the scientific papers regarding how old the earth is. All these papers use words like "if and "maybe," and many other words that show that they do not know for sure how old the earth is.

As far as Mexican and Arab populations increasing faster than European and American, it is a fact. We Americans and Europeans are birth-controlling ourselves out of existence, at least with relation to Mexicans and Arabs.

Considering of your comments here if you think you are civilized  even you are american or europian, thats not true you proved it perfectly.

[BADecker]

I guess some people needs to go back to hgh school for a start over with history, physics,maths, geology or biology.
If you actually look for an area without proofs thats theology for sure. What to do with mexicans or arabic families' kids?  What you mean there is gross!  You must be kidding, jokin and havin some kind of alien fun there i guess

Go back to the basics of the scientific papers regarding how old the earth is. All these papers use words like "if and "maybe," and many other words that show that they do not know for sure how old the earth is.

As far as Mexican and Arab populations increasing faster than European and American, it is a fact. We Americans and Europeans are birth-controlling ourselves out of existence, at least with relation to Mexicans and Arabs.

Considering of your comments here if you think you are civilized  even you are american or europian, thats not true you proved it perfectly.

Not sure what you are talking about. Perhaps you can find a better translation website. Or post it in your original language and I can try to translate it to English.

[BADecker]

...nobody knows for sure how C-14 worked back then. The whole energy of the earth was different before the Flood.

Really?

Really?

Carbon was different 5000 years ago?

Prove it!

No experiment has ever suggested such a thing (like every claim you make)

How would a radioactive half-life be different back then?  How does that make sense, even in your world?

Science is the ones making the assertions. Let them prove C-14 was the same if they can.

Science has proven this to the extent that it can be proven without a time machine

Half-life is a half-life... that's simply what it is... if you do not understand a half-life, aka radioactive decay, you have no business commenting on C-14 dating


If you claim things worked differently in the past than they do today... that is YOUR claim... YOU need to provide evidence

One reason NOBODY takes you seriously is because you make such bullshit claims without any evidence at all to support it... it's all lies, misinformation and propaganda

Things working different in the past is the claim of science. Look at Big Bang. Things worked different back then. But nobody even knows that there was a Big Bang. Science is so mixed up, that there isn't any reason to believe a word they say.

C-14 amounts present today are not reliable because nobody knows for sure how much C-14 existed back prior to the Great Flood. If there were 100 times the C-14 present back then as we think now, it would throw the whole C-14 science off. And if there were 100 times less, it would be the same. We don't know how much there was back then. We are just guessing that it was similar as today.

You are simply wrong

Science has shown that matter cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed

Science is familiar with the only natural mechanism which transforms lighter elements into carbon (supernova explosions of stars)

Science understands what a half-life is, and why that is important when dating radioactive elements

Science knows for certain there was not a supernova explosion nearby during the past 5000 years

Therefore, it is clear that the amount of C-14 has not changed in the last 5000 years (except through natural process of atomic decay)

Your claim that it has changed, has not met the burden of proof... this is how science works... you are wrong... like always

That's not at all what I am talking about. Let me try to explain it simply.

Let's say that we find some dead plant matter that we are reasonably certain had not been disturbed since it died. We test for C-14 quantities. We find that there is X amount of C-14 in that plant matter.

From this we can calculate how much C-14 there would have been in the matter any age back into the past, provided that the plant matter existed at any age we want to look at. In fact, if we went back far enough, the plant matter might have been twice as massive, made up of who knows how many times the C-14 that exists in it today.

Here is the question. How much C-14 did it have in it when it died? We don't have any way of knowing this because, we don't really know how much C-14 existed within the location where it lived, at the time in which it lived.


Let me say it again in a different way.

If a plant died 1000 years ago, and we found its dead remains and tested it for C-14, we might guess that it lived 10,000 years ago. Why? Because the environment in which it lived had only a tenth of the C-14 that we would have expected. Because we expected a whole lot more C-14 in its environment, and because we didn't know that the environment that it lived in had only a 10th of the amount we expected, we dated it incorrectly.


Because of this, there is little if any way to get a correct reading from C-14 carbon dating. Rather, it is a trick that scientists use to get us all to believe that the Earth is a lot older than it really is. Why do they do this? I am certain that they do it to make the idea of evolution into something that is possible, even though the probability math says evolution is impossible beyond beyond. And this to destroy the idea of God in the eyes of many.

[BADecker]

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Once again: How we go from Noah and his wife to 7 billion of people, genetic variation, different races etc in 5000 years?

Please, I really would like to know, how is it possible in your world to go from Noah and Emzara to 7 billion people?  One big incest I guess?
Who were the wives of Noah's sons?

BTW, they would develop serious genetic disorders in few generations.

Define what you mean by "energy of Earth"?  I'm asking because you probably don't even know what energy is.

PS. I'm going to ignore your suggestion that Mexicans and Arabs are not civilized as it is a diversion.  

Now you are getting just plain stupid in some of this.


An example. Many Chinese people are small people. You can have a family of small Chinese people. Then, suddenly, some children are born who are literally giants. Why? It is built in, inside of their genetics.

If that wasn't enough, environment changes people in many ways.

If that wasn't enough, we can manipulate our own genetics slightly just by meditating on it. We don't have much ability to do that any longer, because of entropy weakening us. But 4000 years ago they would have still had much of that ability.


energy - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/energy?s=t
of - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/of?s=t
Earth - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/earth?s=t


Arabs and Mexicans are generally more civilized. You can tell by how well they live with big families.

[BADecker]

I guess some people needs to go back to hgh school for a start over with history, physics,maths, geology or biology.
If you actually look for an area without proofs thats theology for sure. What to do with mexicans or arabic families' kids?  What you mean there is gross!  You must be kidding, jokin and havin some kind of alien fun there i guess

Go back to the basics of the scientific papers regarding how old the earth is. All these papers use words like "if and "maybe," and many other words that show that they do not know for sure how old the earth is.

As far as Mexican and Arab populations increasing faster than European and American, it is a fact. We Americans and Europeans are birth-controlling ourselves out of existence, at least with relation to Mexicans and Arabs.

All speculation that just what the Bible is, good to see that from you.
Now don't be two faced about it (Contradict yourself)

Bible is eye witness reports. Science is often speculation, especially in the science theory area.