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June 11, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
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Can I connect PCI-E x16 card to x16 port via x1 cable extender ?

Do it need any jumpers like when I connect video card to x1 ?

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June 11, 2011, 11:29:30 PM
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Yes, but at 1x bandwidth. No jumpers needed
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June 11, 2011, 11:48:20 PM
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Yes, but at 1x bandwidth. No jumpers needed

I'm pretty sure you do need jumpers, or a 1x to 16x cable.

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June 12, 2011, 12:00:51 AM
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What jumper? What setting is this jumper supposed to control? And is the jumper on the video card or on the motherboard?
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June 12, 2011, 03:19:10 PM
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What jumper? What setting is this jumper supposed to control? And is the jumper on the video card or on the motherboard?

Sorry for my english, not a jumper.
A piece of wire/cable
This is what I was talking about http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1788271/pics/x16.jpg

Works fine.
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June 12, 2011, 05:03:42 PM
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What jumper? What setting is this jumper supposed to control? And is the jumper on the video card or on the motherboard?

Sorry for my english, not a jumper.
A piece of wire/cable
This is what I was talking about http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1788271/pics/x16.jpg

Works fine.

Thanks. Just to be clear, you are referring to the PCIe extender in that picture? What is that white twistie-tie thing for, that's curving from the front of the PCIe slot to the back of it, and curves around two capacitors?
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June 12, 2011, 10:54:30 PM
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It's well descibed here http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=42
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The PCI Express Card Electromechanical Specification describes five "presence detect" pins
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June 12, 2011, 11:42:14 PM
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Yes, some motherboards will need two pins on the PCIe 1x slot "shorted" in order for it to detect that a card is present. On my particular machine it wouldn't even see the card until I shorted out those two pins... now it works like a champ!

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June 12, 2011, 11:46:25 PM
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What jumper? What setting is this jumper supposed to control? And is the jumper on the video card or on the motherboard?

Sorry for my english, not a jumper.
A piece of wire/cable
This is what I was talking about http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1788271/pics/x16.jpg

Works fine.

Thanks. Just to be clear, you are referring to the PCIe extender in that picture? What is that white twistie-tie thing for, that's curving from the front of the PCIe slot to the back of it, and curves around two capacitors?

Looks like the twisty-tie is electrically connecting pin#81 of the B-side (2nd from bottom right in usual locking-clip-to-left orientation) to pin#1 of the A-side (top-left), and thus letting the motherboard know something is plugged in (without filling the whole x16 slot).

I'm basing this guess on the pinout information at:

http://pinouts.ru/Slots/pci_express_pinout.shtml

...where it also says, "Add on card needs to have PRSNT#1 connected to one of PRSNT#2 depending what type of connector is in use.". (For x16, PRSNT#1 is pin#1-side-A, and PRSNT#2 is pin#81-side-B.)

It might be a bad idea to connect these two before the x1 extender is in, because it could indicate a card was present when not. But maybe it's harmless; I really don't know.

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June 12, 2011, 11:56:14 PM
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It might be a bad idea to connect these two before the x1 extender is in, because it could indicate a card was present when not. But maybe it's harmless; I really don't know.

As long as the machine is off, and unplugged (and has been for some time) then it shouldn't make a difference.

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June 13, 2011, 12:00:38 AM
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What about if the wire jumps off for any reason while the system is on? Just get a PCI-E 1x to 16x cable form ebay, it's around 6-9$ and it will save you potential problems.

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