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July 27, 2016, 07:27:27 PM
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Whatever you said has pros and cons on its own! Yes, the more you have, the more you are worried of losing it and being bankrupt. You are concerned about the society and your image in the society. You want to be the best in society and try to make more money. You lose all your money and then you go insane and find yourself blinded. However, having less is bad on its own too. You are dreaming of winning big. You gamble at every possible offer. You are ready to do anything for free money and find yourself ended in jail. You think you are worthless and may not enjoy many wonders in life

Those who own little do not have to worry about money as much. And they are more likely to have more money.

Consider owning a bar of gold.

Do you live in an apartment? You will need to secure that gold from someone stealing it so it is better to own a house if you're going to own a bar of gold. So now you have a bar of gold in your house. You need to buy a safe to put the bar of gold in. But what if someone steals the safe. You need to buy a gun to protect your home. And paying for a security system for when you are away is a very good assurance that the bar of gold is safe.

Look at all of the hassle you have gone through just to own one thing.

It is the same with everything you own. You are constantly protecting it from being taken.

Nobody can take your fun memories of enjoying your life instead of working hard to buy then protect your stuff.
So essentially what you're saying is to not be materialistic about things and worry about only life experiences?




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July 27, 2016, 08:10:34 PM
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Nobody can take your fun memories of enjoying your life instead of working hard to buy then protect your stuff.

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Hopefully by then I can just upload my brain to a hard drive. Wink

And fortunately I'll have the bitcoins to afford it.

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Hopefully by then I can just upload my brain to a hard drive. Wink

And fortunately I'll have the bitcoins to afford it.

With all the aluminum oxide and barium being sprayed into the atmosphere - chemtrails - it won't take as long as you think. The "numbness" is penetrating slowly. But it has already started, and we don't even realize it.

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Nobody can take your fun memories of enjoying your life instead of working hard to buy then protect your stuff.

Alzheimer's.    Cool

Hopefully by then I can just upload my brain to a hard drive. Wink

And fortunately I'll have the bitcoins to afford it.

With all the aluminum oxide and barium being sprayed into the atmosphere - chemtrails - it won't take as long as you think. The "numbness" is penetrating slowly. But it has already started, and we don't even realize it.

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Nobody can take your fun memories of enjoying your life instead of working hard to buy then protect your stuff.

Alzheimer's.    Cool

Hopefully by then I can just upload my brain to a hard drive. Wink

And fortunately I'll have the bitcoins to afford it.

With all the aluminum oxide and barium being sprayed into the atmosphere - chemtrails - it won't take as long as you think. The "numbness" is penetrating slowly. But it has already started, and we don't even realize it.

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Yes, in America, but beyond America as well, although not worldwide. However, there will be some worldwide penetration sooner or later simply from the winds. Some will even penetrate to the Southern Hemisphere.

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What a wonderful idea.  I all loved the comments here.  It is very practical.  By owning less we will become more happy.  We will be able to enjoy single thing that we have right now.  I wish I could be you someday.  Just enjoying the things which only matters to me.  Nowadays, people were so busy making a living but forget how to live.  They are tied to their bills, to their luxurious things, to their egos.  If only I could have a nice job maybe I can do that.  But for now I will work hard to do the same like you do today.  I will put it always in my mind, "the less I own, the more I have."
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What a wonderful idea.  I all loved the comments here.  It is very practical.  By owning less we will become more happy.  We will be able to enjoy single thing that we have right now.  I wish I could be you someday.  Just enjoying the things which only matters to me.  Nowadays, people were so busy making a living but forget how to live.  They are tied to their bills, to their luxurious things, to their egos.  If only I could have a nice job maybe I can do that.  But for now I will work hard to do the same like you do today.  I will put it always in my mind, "the less I own, the more I have."

I get tempted to buy things all the time. There are billions of dollars spent to psychologically get us to buy stuff. I just go back every time and remember that it has to fit in my carry on or backpack. Then the temptation goes away because I remember that my life is a lot easier without all of those things.

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Minimalism + Bitcoin = happiness

I have been living this lifestyle for about 4 years. Everything I own can fit in a carry-on and a backpack (other than a box of childhood stuff at my mother's house). My expenses are about 10% of my monthly income having downsized to a small 35 sqm apartment. I bought a cheap/reliable car, paid in cash (my criteria was something that would last 2 years, good gas mileage and I wouldn't mind walking away from).

By doing this I can focus on the things in life that truly make me happy, last year I traveled to one new country a month. I don't worry about money like I used to. I will probably be able to quit my job in the next few years and do something I enjoy instead of just working for the money. And it has allowed me to accumulate bitcoins. Continuing this lifestyle will allow me to see the world and be independent/free instead of having to spend my life protecting my stuff.

Bitcoin does a lot to help with this lifestyle as I would not be able to be as mobile with gold, moving place to place carrying large amounts of gold across borders while I can carry my private key easily anywhere. I can always find a localbitcoins seller in whatever country I go to to get local currency.


The Less You Own, The More You Have (TED talk)
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That was an interesting read! I'm glad for you, OP, and I really hope I will be able to live at least close to what is your lifestyle is. To visit one new country even in 6 months is my long time dream. Also it's nice to see that one can always easily change Bitcoins to get a local currency anywhere.

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What a wonderful idea.  I all loved the comments here.  It is very practical.  By owning less we will become more happy.  We will be able to enjoy single thing that we have right now.  I wish I could be you someday.  Just enjoying the things which only matters to me.  Nowadays, people were so busy making a living but forget how to live.  They are tied to their bills, to their luxurious things, to their egos.  If only I could have a nice job maybe I can do that.  But for now I will work hard to do the same like you do today.  I will put it always in my mind, "the less I own, the more I have."

I get tempted to buy things all the time. There are billions of dollars spent to psychologically get us to buy stuff. I just go back every time and remember that it has to fit in my carry on or backpack. Then the temptation goes away because I remember that my life is a lot easier without all of those things.

Elwar, I think you own a lot. It doesn't matter that you don't own a lot of stuff. You have the confidence coming from having a good job with a regular income and (I assume) a pretty fat wallet. Would you so enthusiastic about owning few material things, if you had less immaterial things like your job and your wallet?
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What a wonderful idea.  I all loved the comments here.  It is very practical.  By owning less we will become more happy.  We will be able to enjoy single thing that we have right now.  I wish I could be you someday.  Just enjoying the things which only matters to me.  Nowadays, people were so busy making a living but forget how to live.  They are tied to their bills, to their luxurious things, to their egos.  If only I could have a nice job maybe I can do that.  But for now I will work hard to do the same like you do today.  I will put it always in my mind, "the less I own, the more I have."

I get tempted to buy things all the time. There are billions of dollars spent to psychologically get us to buy stuff. I just go back every time and remember that it has to fit in my carry on or backpack. Then the temptation goes away because I remember that my life is a lot easier without all of those things.

Elwar, I think you own a lot. It doesn't matter that you don't own a lot of stuff. You have the confidence coming from having a good job with a regular income and (I assume) a pretty fat wallet. Would you so enthusiastic about owning few material things, if you had less immaterial things like your job and your wallet?

I haven't been without a job since I was 14. I doubt I would ever be without one. Even if I was retired I'd still work. So I don't know how I'd feel without one.

As for the wallet, that's the point. You don't have to worry so much about money without a lot of stuff. My monthly spending on essentials is about 10% of my income and I could easily drop that down to 4-5% if I had to.

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I haven't been without a job since I was 14. I doubt I would ever be without one. Even if I was retired I'd still work. So I don't know how I'd feel without one.

As for the wallet, that's the point. You don't have to worry so much about money without a lot of stuff. My monthly spending on essentials is about 10% of my income and I could easily drop that down to 4-5% if I had to.

Well, congratulations. I'm saving 20/30% of my monthly income these days. We have several things in common, though. I don't have much attachment to places nor material stuff. I've sold my house n 2012, and I've been living here and there since then, but I don't want a boat for the future (I love the sea, but I love it from the seaside). My goal is to have several houses in several different countries, and I'll be traveling between them.
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Over the last 4 years I've been involved in the Bitcoin industry, researching digital money and stashing away Bitcoin. This year, business has reached a point where it is covering my monthly expenses with plenty left over for disposable income. At first I thought this was an opportunity to splurge on something fancy to celebrate, but I did the exact opposite - I sold everything I owned but the bare essentials. My entirety of my belonging fit into a suitcase and carry on and I cannot express how liberating this is. Truly, the things you own end up owning you. I've discovered less is more.

Although I've been a nomad since 2013, I've never gone full digital nomad until just now. Since 2013, I've lived in Saskatchewan, Sweden, Toronto, and now Montreal. I attribute this lifestyle to a combination of mobile and Internet technologies.

What I would like to do is invite others to discuss this life of minimalism and digital nomadship as I believe it is magnitudes more fulfilling than the traditional 40+ hour workweek.

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Over the last 4 years I've been involved in the Bitcoin industry, researching digital money and stashing away Bitcoin. This year, business has reached a point where it is covering my monthly expenses with plenty left over for disposable income. At first I thought this was an opportunity to splurge on something fancy to celebrate, but I did the exact opposite - I sold everything I owned but the bare essentials. My entirety of my belonging fit into a suitcase and carry on and I cannot express how liberating this is. Truly, the things you own end up owning you. I've discovered less is more.

Although I've been a nomad since 2013, I've never gone full digital nomad until just now. Since 2013, I've lived in Saskatchewan, Sweden, Toronto, and now Montreal. I attribute this lifestyle to a combination of mobile and Internet technologies.

What I would like to do is invite others to discuss this life of minimalism and digital nomadship as I believe it is magnitudes more fulfilling than the traditional 40+ hour workweek.

It's a dream life style. Congratulations! Nothing binding you but a suitcase is awesome, true freedom.

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The less you have ?

Coming from a guy who said he gets paid 6 figures ? LOL

There is a reason people have "stuff"
And another reason why people are sometimes "hoarders"

Take away that 6 figures and see the poor talk bullshit.
I lived it.

Being on the street with 0 cents and no prospects vs having a bank account with 6 figures is laughable.
And get this..
Not everyone wants to travel.

I live in Canada so why do i want to go to your shithole country ?
Travel can blow me.. gay bullshit !
What like you think it's going to be different ? LOL
Same shit.. different pile  Roll Eyes

"The things you own end up owning you"
Of course.. there is some truth to that.
I had to pay for a storage locker not long ago LOL
First thing i did was go through everything i owned and chucked as much i could.

I did throw away 2 computers i didn't need too.
Ended up getting them back and i have used them non stop ever since.
I ended up selling the fancy 3rd one and needed my crappy ones.
So had i not stored "stuff" i would not even be typing this right now !

Anyway you should see the retard pointless crap i see bums push around in carts here.
Just a heap of useless garbage.. and i have wondered WHY so many times passing them by.
The answer is rooted in the repeated comments by one of my favorite reality TV show stars.
..
He says what ever "stuff" you can dig up or find / use etc the better.
Because it make you feel more HUMAN ..which is comfort while sitting in a bush in the dark.
Ever sat in a bush with no home ?
I sure as fucking hell have and with out stuff i would not have gotten rid off bears countless times.
Stuff ?
I knew i was going into a bush so i went and bought an air mattress HAHHAHAHA
Hey i might end up being some bush man weirdo bum type guy
but i am going to do it in style and COMFORT !

But hey.. you enjoy your 6 figures telling everyone they don't NEED anything LOL
Me ? I will take Les Stroud's side from Survivoman fame.
Where he mentioned that quote while drinking plain hot water in a found cup
..to feel more human and have comfort.

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The less you have ?

Coming from a guy who said he gets paid 6 figures ? LOL

There is a reason people have "stuff"
And another reason why people are sometimes "hoarders"

Take away that 6 figures and see the poor talk bullshit.
I lived it.

Being on the street with 0 cents and no prospects vs having a bank account with 6 figures is laughable.
And get this..
Not everyone wants to travel.

I live in Canada so why do i want to go to your shithole country ?
Travel can blow me.. gay bullshit !
What like you think it's going to be different ? LOL
Same shit.. different pile  Roll Eyes

"The things you own end up owning you"
Of course.. there is some truth to that.
I had to pay for a storage locker not long ago LOL
First thing i did was go through everything i owned and chucked as much i could.

I did throw away 2 computers i didn't need too.
Ended up getting them back and i have used them non stop ever since.
I ended up selling the fancy 3rd one and needed my crappy ones.
So had i not stored "stuff" i would not even be typing this right now !

Anyway you should see the retard pointless crap i see bums push around in carts here.
Just a heap of useless garbage.. and i have wondered WHY so many times passing them by.
The answer is rooted in the repeated comments by one of my favorite reality TV show stars.
..
He says what ever "stuff" you can dig up or find / use etc the better.
Because it make you feel more HUMAN ..which is comfort while sitting in a bush in the dark.
Ever sat in a bush with no home ?
I sure as fucking hell have and with out stuff i would not have gotten rid off bears countless times.
Stuff ?
I knew i was going into a bush so i went and bought an air mattress HAHHAHAHA
Hey i might end up being some bush man weirdo bum type guy
but i am going to do it in style and COMFORT !

But hey.. you enjoy your 6 figures telling everyone they don't NEED anything LOL
Me ? I will take Les Stroud's side from Survivoman fame.
Where he mentioned that quote while drinking plain hot water in a found cup
..to feel more human and have comfort.

You sound reasonably intelligent. But you sound bitter, as well. Perhaps if you used your intelligence a little differently, you could get a 5 figure income. Then you might not feel so bitter.

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August 05, 2016, 10:38:19 PM
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Over the last 4 years I've been involved in the Bitcoin industry, researching digital money and stashing away Bitcoin. This year, business has reached a point where it is covering my monthly expenses with plenty left over for disposable income. At first I thought this was an opportunity to splurge on something fancy to celebrate, but I did the exact opposite - I sold everything I owned but the bare essentials. My entirety of my belonging fit into a suitcase and carry on and I cannot express how liberating this is. Truly, the things you own end up owning you. I've discovered less is more.

Although I've been a nomad since 2013, I've never gone full digital nomad until just now. Since 2013, I've lived in Saskatchewan, Sweden, Toronto, and now Montreal. I attribute this lifestyle to a combination of mobile and Internet technologies.

What I would like to do is invite others to discuss this life of minimalism and digital nomadship as I believe it is magnitudes more fulfilling than the traditional 40+ hour workweek.

So you've been living 3 years spending more than you earned? Hmm...
I've been a nomad for 28 years, and I can't remember the days of my youth when I was working less than 50 hours each week. And I want to own! You just need to act sensibly so your possessions don't own you. It's not difficult.
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I love reading it!  I love the idea of minimalism.  I even apply it to our house like I would choose to buy with something that have already everything on it. 

I also wish I could do what have you done.  Certainly, the less you own the more you have.  You have more time with having less things.  And being contented on what we have is the best feeling.  I read about the president who they said was the poorest president.  Contrary to that he said that he is the richest president as he do not want and need anything more.  He is contented on what he have.  He is the president of Uruguay I guess, I forgot already.  But it just makes me to adore him as it gives happiness and hope in my life.

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August 11, 2016, 10:51:47 AM
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I have noticed the same thing.  The more you own the less freedom you have. Less money, the more you have time to worry about how to maintain your bankroll. Very true how everything really has a price to pay.
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