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June 29, 2016, 01:45:36 PM
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Bitcoin Core should host in bitcoincore.org or something, a blockchain file that gets updated frequently so new people aren't alienated to never use Bitcoin Core since downloading the blockchain from scratch is hell.

But if there was a way to download the blockchain from torrent at really fast speed, it wouldn't be so annoying. With the improvements in booting up times with faster validation like secp256k1 it wouldn't take that long to validate it compared to download + validate at the same time. Im sure there is a way to make it guaranteed to be the real blockchain due some hash checksum or something (to guarantee is not some fake blockchain).

Im just saying this cause I see all the newbs that download Bitcoin Core giving up and using blockchain.info or something.

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June 29, 2016, 02:37:38 PM
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I think there must be some technical difficulty or the potential that some people download a fake. Something must haave happened for it not to be implemented or considered.
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June 29, 2016, 03:00:46 PM
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Bitcoin Core should host in bitcoincore.org or something, a blockchain file that gets updated frequently so new people aren't alienated to never use Bitcoin Core since downloading the blockchain from scratch is hell.

But if there was a way to download the blockchain from torrent at really fast speed, it wouldn't be so annoying. With the improvements in booting up times with faster validation like secp256k1 it wouldn't take that long to validate it compared to download + validate at the same time. Im sure there is a way to make it guaranteed to be the real blockchain due some hash checksum or something (to guarantee is not some fake blockchain).

Im just saying this cause I see all the newbs that download Bitcoin Core giving up and using blockchain.info or something.

Downloading the blockchain (even with fast torrent), and then trying to synchronize afterwards it is usually SLOWER than just synchronizing directly from fast peers on the Bitcoin network in the first place.  So, offering such a download would just annoy new users even more.

Bitcoin is an open source decentralized system.  There is no entity "in charge" of bitcoin.  Therefore, any blockchain that anybody else offers would be just as "official" or "trustworthy" as a blockchain offered by you.  If you think it's such a great idea, then you should do it (or hire someone to do it for you).  If you aren't willing to do it, then perhasp nobody else is doing it either for the same reasons that have.




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June 29, 2016, 08:05:28 PM
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Bitcoin Core should host in bitcoincore.org or something, a blockchain file that gets updated frequently so new people aren't alienated to never use Bitcoin Core since downloading the blockchain from scratch is hell.

But if there was a way to download the blockchain from torrent at really fast speed, it wouldn't be so annoying. With the improvements in booting up times with faster validation like secp256k1 it wouldn't take that long to validate it compared to download + validate at the same time. Im sure there is a way to make it guaranteed to be the real blockchain due some hash checksum or something (to guarantee is not some fake blockchain).

Im just saying this cause I see all the newbs that download Bitcoin Core giving up and using blockchain.info or something.

personally I'm just using electrum now because of how big the blockchain is and how long it takes to update. Electrum just feels like such an elegant solution.
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June 29, 2016, 09:43:29 PM
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Keeping an up to date blockchain would be hard and require multiple torrents.
Although, there are somewhat recent versions torrented which would make you download the rest of the data the correct way.

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June 29, 2016, 10:06:04 PM
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Keeping an up to date blockchain would be hard and require multiple torrents.
Although, there are somewhat recent versions torrented which would make you download the rest of the data the correct way.

I don't remember what version it was, but after a certain version of Bitcoin it was considered faster to let it sync with the net rather than download the blockchain via torrent.
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June 30, 2016, 03:44:16 PM
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Keeping an up to date blockchain would be hard and require multiple torrents.
Although, there are somewhat recent versions torrented which would make you download the rest of the data the correct way.

I don't remember what version it was, but after a certain version of Bitcoin it was considered faster to let it sync with the net rather than download the blockchain via torrent.

this is what i have heard as the latest news as to why torrents arent used anymore. Basically your quicker to just let the client download the blockchain itself and then synchronise. Far less likely to download something you might not wish to download as well.

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July 02, 2016, 02:38:56 PM
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Keeping an up to date blockchain would be hard and require multiple torrents.
Although, there are somewhat recent versions torrented which would make you download the rest of the data the correct way.

I don't remember what version it was, but after a certain version of Bitcoin it was considered faster to let it sync with the net rather than download the blockchain via torrent.

this is what i have heard as the latest news as to why torrents arent used anymore. Basically your quicker to just let the client download the blockchain itself and then synchronise. Far less likely to download something you might not wish to download as well.

I have a really hard time believing this.  I have a decent computer and a fast internet connection, and it's taking WEEKS to update the blockchain.  The internet connection is hardly touched, and the CPU usage is marginal.  There HAS to be a faster way to get this thing updated. 
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