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June 30, 2016, 03:26:46 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.


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June 30, 2016, 03:27:34 PM
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BADecker, you have no quotes. Show me a miracle said Pilate...

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No... You are trying to swallow the fish... It will not work. You advanced a lot of things there and you failed to follow up. It's regurgitation...


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June 30, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
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BADecker, you have no quotes. Show me a miracle said Pilate...

"Bible."  Better?    Cool

No... You are trying to swallow the fish... It will not work. You advanced a lot of things there and you failed to follow up. It's regurgitation...



What's the matter? Too scared to do a little research? Does your mommy wipe your nose and your behind, too?

Every time somebody comes along who wants quotes from the Bible, and I tell them to go and search the Bible on the Internet... what am I supposed to do, paste the text of the Bible into Bitcointalk? just because you ask me to do it?

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June 30, 2016, 04:51:21 PM
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BADecker, you have no quotes. Show me a miracle said Pilate...

"Bible."  Better?    Cool

No... You are trying to swallow the fish... It will not work. You advanced a lot of things there and you failed to follow up. It's regurgitation...



What's the matter? Too scared to do a little research? Does your mommy wipe your nose and your behind, too?

Every time somebody comes along who wants quotes from the Bible, and I tell them to go and search the Bible on the Internet... what am I supposed to do, paste the text of the Bible into Bitcointalk? just because you ask me to do it?

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No just that you have no sources to what you advance. Pilate would never ever have tolerated a guy (or guys) able to do miracle to be harassed by barbarians.

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June 30, 2016, 04:56:20 PM
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Bringing this kid to Rome... At all costs and it ain't a few judeans barbarians who could have stop Pilate... If you doubt what I just wrote it's because you don't understand anything. What does the Quran reports on those miracles... Good question...

Ps if you wanna see a miracle watch a bird fly and remeber it came in an egg ;-) like the alligator! (And the fish too).

You have first to understand Jesus's mission.
He came to save not himself but all humankind.
So, his goal never was to save only himself.
In fact, his victory was spiritual, not external.
We celebrate his resurrection, not death.

That's the real fact, none understand it in the right way. If everyone understands the value behind resurrection such questions won't get emerged. He himself sacrificed for our sins.

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June 30, 2016, 04:57:18 PM
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If you wanna see a miracle...
It is a miracle that so many people believe in the Earth's major religions.
Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

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June 30, 2016, 05:39:18 PM
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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes


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July 02, 2016, 02:04:43 AM
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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes



The thing is, most people who live a bad life, won't sit down in the last 10 minutes and embrace Jesus. That's part of the reason you and others are being shown the truth about God, so that even though you formally deny God, doubts about the truth of your denial are being placed into your mind. Then, if you are given a last 10 minutes, you just might turn and repent and be saved. But God knows when you are faking.

This life is gone for everybody in less than 100 years, usually. So who cares about their forgiveness? Let it be done, so that at least some of them can have eternal life. Eternal life is what is important. God thought it out well. And because of how great He is, it took Him less than 1 second to think it out well.

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July 02, 2016, 02:05:52 AM
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Well IMO I think Jesus never did miracle to save himself from that is because he accomplished his mission by the assassination of him being finished. He saved all of humankind because of that.

You got it, man. Continue in your faith. Read the Bible more and more. Never give up on it.

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July 04, 2016, 02:05:16 AM
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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.
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July 04, 2016, 06:43:39 AM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.

nice ancient david blane. I thought he is an alien? according to ancient aliens


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July 04, 2016, 08:22:16 AM
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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes



Lol, I agree and that's how most of relitards think and they still accept it. If ever a guy killed your mother and made a salvation they can still go to heaven that's what relitards says. So if you can do all evil things you can and just make a salvation before reaching your death.

I think that's reason why relitards thinks atheist are cruel, they reflect it with how they think that if there's no god they can do things they want and they can't behave on their own thinking.
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July 04, 2016, 01:17:37 PM
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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes



Lol, I agree and that's how most of relitards think and they still accept it. If ever a guy killed your mother and made a salvation they can still go to heaven that's what relitards says. So if you can do all evil things you can and just make a salvation before reaching your death.

I think that's reason why relitards thinks atheist are cruel, they reflect it with how they think that if there's no god they can do things they want and they can't behave on their own thinking.

So, is it better to go away from people and become a completely recluse hermit, just so that you don't kill people accidentally, a little bit, by affecting them in a slightly bad way, even though you may not mean to do so, but co it completely by accident?

Or is it better to remain among people so that you can benefit them to keep them alive and happy, if only by imparting some good words that cheer them up now and again?

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July 04, 2016, 02:55:01 PM
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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.

It's very sad fact that Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus and tried everything in his power to avoid it.
Even his wife send him message and ask him not to kill Jesus.
Pilate even offered to Jews to choose between Jesus and thief, who will be liberated and who will bi killed, with hope that Jews will choose Jesus.
It didn't happen because Jew's priests was very afraid of Jesus and really pushed very hard Pi9late to kill him, even manipulated people in Jerusalem to demand Jesus's death.
If all people wanted his death, what Jesus could do?
Save his life but escape from Israel and forget his mission?
His only choice was to sacrifice his life and continue his mission from spiritual world, and bring spiritual salvation top believers.
 

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July 04, 2016, 03:44:26 PM
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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.

you ever seen God?

Who seen God? angels? Devil?

All this does not make sense, if someone says that Jesus was destined to die, then the people are destined to be poor and others are meant to be rich, God writes the destiny of people? that God must be bad.

I do not believe what people have written in the Bible and the Koran.

Already spent many years and even today do not have people who died and resurrected to say that there is heaven, it would be easier God show us a miracle for people to believe in it, do not tell me that God does not like to be tempted.

People make their choices, make the best of themselves, some have more opportunities than others, but do not believe it has anything supernatural in people's lives.

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July 04, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol
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July 04, 2016, 05:11:05 PM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

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July 05, 2016, 09:05:35 AM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

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Easy when they have been deceived into believing he wasn't a magician.

His enterainment career was probably going smoothly until his tragic Houdini style "escape whilst nailed to a cross" stunt went badly wrong.


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July 05, 2016, 06:32:50 PM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

Cool

Easy when they have been deceived into believing he wasn't a magician.

His enterainment career was probably going smoothly until his tragic Houdini style "escape whilst nailed to a cross" stunt went badly wrong.



It didn't go wrong. He arose from the dead on the third day.    Cool
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July 05, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

Cool

Easy when they have been deceived into believing he wasn't a magician.

His enterainment career was probably going smoothly until his tragic Houdini style "escape whilst nailed to a cross" stunt went badly wrong.



It didn't go wrong. He arose from the dead on the third day.    Cool

According to some of the gospels. They can't even agree on that
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