What would happen if a major financial crisis hit entire world in a few months

[metropolit]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

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[franky1]

tough question. but ill have a go

though bitcoin is a good personal asset to hedge against fiat.
human decision especially with a lets say 60euro daily limit would be

obvious essentials come first.
first food stockpile
second car fuel - if you cant get to the store or an ATM or to work your screwed for tomorrow
third electricity and water bills paid off
forth housing- you dont want them making you homeless even if its the banks fault

then if you have anything left. you would stockpile food or pay off bills in advance to give you breathing room..

then if there is any left. then you would ensure its not held as FIAT but as something else like personal assets of value

[Carlton Banks]

So.......

Franky would arrange a roof over his head.......last?

And besides, OP said "financial crisis" not WWIII lol





Get some sleep. Another big shift tomorrow.

[franky1]

So.......

Franky would arrange a roof over his head.......last?

And besides, OP said "financial crisis" not WWIII lol

Get some sleep. Another big shift tomorrow.

lol you dont pay your rent/mortgage by the day, but you do need food, car fuel more regularly. followed by electric and water, because legally they can stop your electric and water ALOT sooner then evicting you should you be in FINANCIAL hardship..

[Carlton Banks]

And in a financial meltdown that renders your prepper mentality necessary, hacking the electricity supply or finding a local freshwater source is going to be a whole lot easier (and widely practiced) than getting money to service companies. Arranging housing would be a little tougher. Anyway, you're boring, get that rest lol

[Cryptonitex]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

Insanely good question actually.

BitCoin is based upon fiat currency, so if the financial apocalypse comes, then my guess will be that the price of BitCoin will go down dramatically.

We need to get into the ideology that 1 BitCoin = 1 BitCoin
(I would do the "B" but I don't know how)

And you're correct. Even with services like the Xapo, and Shift Financial debit cards, they work just like an exchange. Sell BitCoin for Fiat. If Fiat is worthless, then so is BitCoin in a way.

[groll]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

When financial crisi occurs bitcoin will no longer have a monetary value since the demand will go down. If there are no demands it means there are no buyers then who will buy bitcoin. This will lead to the crash of bitcoin as there will be no more monetary value to it. Bitcoin will become just a digital number with no value at all. Bitcoin users hope that financial crisis worldwide will not happen.

[aioc]

I doubt that bitcoin will hit the moon I think it's the other way around,it will have a negative impact on Bitcoin people will stocks fiat more than bitcoin but I hope it will not happen and what will  be the cause of that global financial crisis..

[franky1]

I doubt that bitcoin will hit the moon I think it's the other way around,it will have a negative impact on Bitcoin people will stocks fiat more than bitcoin but I hope it will not happen and what will  be the cause of that global financial crisis..

if you can only withdraw $60 a day. and banks go into negative interest(they take money from you). people will not stock up on fiat.

they would SPEND IT

but they would not spend it on bitcoin(initially), because of course they have a limited daily spend. so the real life priorities like food come first.

my point is people will want to secure their real life from short term hunger, dehydration, transport and shelter in order of immediate priority

EG if it hit lets say.. november 5th..
on november 6th people would buy food hoping to get more than a days worth as they are unsure about tomorrow
on november 7th  people would buy food hoping to get more than a few days worth as they are unsure about next week and probably some car fuel
the following week people would buy food hoping to have atleast a couple weeks worth

later they would want to ensure they have electric and shelter because they happened to have been fully paid up in october so not an immediate worry in the initial days since "the event".

as for bitcoins price. it would not shoot up the very next day due to people buying bitcoin as a first action.. so dont expect mass adoption.. rember $60 daily spend limit hinders mass adoption..

as for the price of bitcoin.. this can change due to "market confidence", where the prices will change even without mass user adoption... you can reference the Zimbabwe dollar as a example
bitcoin "might" end up "showing" as being worth $10,000+.. but in reality that $10,000 may only buy one pint of milk (price up but VALUE down)

[BitcoinSupremo]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

When financial crisi occurs bitcoin will no longer have a monetary value since the demand will go down. If there are no demands it means there are no buyers then who will buy bitcoin. This will lead to the crash of bitcoin as there will be no more monetary value to it. Bitcoin will become just a digital number with no value at all. Bitcoin users hope that financial crisis worldwide will not happen.

To me is just the opposite. If a financial crisis hits the world markets in a few months from now the people holding bitcoins would be the one dictating the price as many persons will be after bitcoin after they knew how much it is worth. Even in the event of bank restricting ATM-s you can still exchange bitcoin via Western Union or Money Gram and receive it in cash which would by pass your bank daily limit. So in the situation of financial crisis I think bitcoin will gain and not lose.

[davis196]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

If a really MAJOR financial crysis hits the world, all the banks will bankrupt and people will loose all their

deposits.Without savings they couldn`t buy bitcoins,so the btc price will go down.

I`m optimistic and this won`t happen.

[Kakmakr]

We are moving to a scenario where fiat conversion would not be a necessity in this whole process. You only have that problem when you convert back to fiat. If you keep everything in Bitcoin, you would pay in Bitcoin and the receiver will do the same down the chain.

We rely on these payment processors too much in my opinion, and we should move to a scenario where Bitcoin is used as the primary currency, not a commodity to convert back to fiat. ^hmmmm^

[nururochac]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

It doesn't affect the bitcoin because once that happen, bitcoin will adopt to it's surrounding and it might have it's own value without relying to US dollar.

[bitcoinisfurture]

Yes it could hit and it has being so in the entire history of the global scenarios. So what is causing you of being afraid , it wont be new firstly and it wont be something unheard of.  OP - Also is your question pertaining to bitcoin or large as a whole?

[HeroCat]

Major worldwide financial crisis can not be, all markets are segmented. Financial crisis can be in one country, but not in all countries, it is not real. Even in one country financial crisis can be as very rare exception - all central banks in each country take care of such things preventing.

[Barnabe]

Major worldwide financial crisis can not be, all markets are segmented. Financial crisis can be in one country, but not in all countries, it is not real. Even in one country financial crisis can be as very rare exception - all central banks in each country take care of such things preventing.

You are really naive if you believe this ...
All banks are financially connected. The 2008 crisis was only due to the US and it affected all countries in the world. Central banks have some power, but they don't have infinite funds, so they cannot go against the market forever...

[metropolit]

The biggest issue is that Bitcoin is not spread enough so that we could live relying entirely on it as a currency.

For example you get a haircut and pay with Bitcoin. If the one that did haircut cannot buy food or pay for any other thing easily with Bitcoin he will have to get into the fiat. It's a long way till this widely spread happens (if ever), but till then i think it's good to have savings dispersion on 3 currencies, gold/fiat/bitcoin.

[helloeverybody]

In a  financial melt down i  don't think bitcoin has enough  adoption to actually be of any use,  anyone who may have wanted to use it as a  safe  haven probably won't be able to due to not even knowing what it is.  Maybe if  more people new and trusted in it then money would flow into it and price would rise by a  good amount. 

[serjent05]

In a  financial melt down i  don't think bitcoin has enough  adoption to actually be of any use,  anyone who may have wanted to use it as a  safe  haven probably won't be able to due to not even knowing what it is.  Maybe if  more people new and trusted in it then money would flow into it and price would rise by a  good amount. 

I agree with crisis in financial system, Bitcoin will be greatly affected too.  Unless BTC had already established it's foothold as independent currency and widely accepted in any places.  But if not, I think barter system will take place.  Item for an item.

[praprata]

It would be a tragic something but we know that it is not going to happen because we have not seen any signs from it.
It would be all over the news but what is now on the news are thing about isis.

[angaper]

Actually all the world is always facing a permanent crisis, and that is why I would not expect for a dramatic  bitcoin increase at any moment. Even in the case that such a sudden failure of the current economic system would happen tomorrow, all the people would look desperately for acquiring precious metals instead of bitcoins.

[STT]

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

BTC relys on the internet, the bank debit card was just a optional service giving you a branch of ATM.   So if the bank was stopped you'd not get the notes but it doesnt mean the btc is lost until the bank is forced to forfeit to government.

BTC could still be used with no cash, it would just become pure trade exchange like the first pizza for btc.   There would be no reliable price in dollars or euros.  Its possible this scenario sees the highest ever worth for bitcoin as people cannot transact any other way reliably and BTC is not part of reserve banking, fiat, debt or bond markets or subject to IMF jurisdiction.
   That all sounds like a positive, cold water in an earthquake suddenly becomes a unique resource right.   That brings us back to the internet, can it suvive disruption.  If the net stayed up then btc could continue, some countries are this bad already.  Maybe ask someone in Venezuela

[groll]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

If a really MAJOR financial crysis hits the world, all the banks will bankrupt and people will loose all their

deposits.Without savings they couldn`t buy bitcoins,so the btc price will go down.

I`m optimistic and this won`t happen.

I agree with you that when a major financial crisis hits the earth there will be no more banks, money has no value and no currency can be used to buy something. It implies that even bitcoins and other cryptocurrency cannot exist any more as a currency. It will be a financial breakdown. But if only a few countries are down people will stick to bitcoins to survive.

[catch.me.if.you.can]

They will not use bitcoin. They will use debit cards.

[thejaytiesto]

Some people has been predicting a financial global crash for a while, it's yet to be seen if it will happen. It seems like the FMI can keep the dollar alive like a zombie even after dying and it works since everyone in the planet accepts dollars, no matter how much hyperinflation there is.
Let's just hope the fucking thing crashes so we can benefit from it.

[pitham1]

Some people has been predicting a financial global crash for a while, it's yet to be seen if it will happen. It seems like the FMI can keep the dollar alive like a zombie even after dying and it works since everyone in the planet accepts dollars, no matter how much hyperinflation there is.
Let's just hope the fucking thing crashes so we can benefit from it.

We need something like the 2008 crisis.
Bitcoin was born in the last crisis and will come of age in the next one.

[CoinBreader]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

I just want to tell you that Greece is still on crisis! capitals are still on with weekly limits at 420euros (so its still 60euros per day )
and we are forced to use mostly credit/debt cards for shopping , fuel, bills, instead of cash,
by the way last summer where capitals took place, i was buy my groceries with bitcoin from a supermarket (thank god) i had installed bitcoin payments ! 

[newcoins1978]

Then chaos would break out and people would not even know what to do anymore, everyone would lose there job and people would need to survive.
We then are forced to go to the old fashion way of hunting money means nothing then.

[romero121]

Few months back a major crisis took place over the entire market, but even at that time bitcoin was in its rising path. So even on crisis bitcoin won't get affected.

[Doamader]

If the financial problem hit all the countries at the same time would be insane to see how bitcoin will react as the miners should stop their service, almost instant or would have to get energy by themselfes, and then proctect the place where they are mining from others. I dont even like to think about, as people would panic and kill others for a cigarrete, soo i believe bitcoin would face a huge damage as bitcoins currently need fiat support to keep growing. But if when the financial problem happens and bitcoin were a mainstream currencie, the price should grow almost instant as the demand would be bigger then the supply.

[STT]

bitcoins currently need fiat support to keep growing

Bitcoin generally increases in value as fiat currency becomes increasingly unreliable.   Thats a funny kind of support, more like they are in competition and bitcoin works as a useful alternative.     If there was a bank holiday for an extended time, as we've had in the past and in some countries recently this has happened; this does not mean bitcoin must shut down or that electricity stops being produced.     Bills must be paid but it can be done via a multitude of methods, if national fiat currency fails then we can pay for power in other units and if need be that will be foreign currency.

  One alternative is paying all bills with bitcoin and this is possible ?  Does anyone know thats impossible right now.

If you really believe in this scenario, buy mobile generators because the demand for that will rocket at one point.   Solar panels are too slight an effect I imagine

[HabBear]

I agree with you, I think it could impact bitcoin positively. If financial crisis hit people would flock to safe currencies. The problem is that the currency that those most affected have their wealth in could drop so drastically that they don't have much left to invest in bitcoin.

An additional problem is that if the turmoil gets so bad that electricity and access to the internet is impacted. For bitcoin to work, we all need both - electricity and the internet. Those two factors make using bitcoin in an apocalypse type setting so difficult and likely improbable.

Few months back a major crisis took place over the entire market, but even at that time bitcoin was in its rising path. So even on crisis bitcoin won't get affected.

Which crisis are you referring to?

[Barbut]

With this scenario bitcoin can go up really high. All previous crisis in all world destroyed something, and give birth to something new. This why btc have success in many countries over the world. Domestic currencies with high inflation don't worth at all, people work for couple dollars all month. That why bitcoin can make some positive change's in the world. I believe also that world is to big for btc, and there is to many people living, cause of that there will be a lot of free space for many altcoins.

[PhilPrime]

Remember how financial crisis in Greece looked like? To sum it, all banks were closed, you could withdraw money only from ATM's and those were capped on 60eur daily.

If this happened globaly but on even more apocalyptic scale, how would it affect the Bitcoin world?

My guess is the price of BTC would reach the moon, BUT, how would we live with Bitcoins and without banks?
Currently we have cool services like Xapo which provides you a debit card so that you can withdraw your BTC into local currency. But bank that is supporting Xapo in this business would also be closed and i guess this debit card wouldn't be of any use if a major financial crisis occures.

I guess all BTC ATM's are relying entirely on banks?

If there would be no liquidity for the BTC, maybe gold would be a better option? You can always sell gold...

if banks dissappear. our bitcoins to will disappear beacuse we cant exchange our crypto currency into fiat. hahaha. only few commodities we can buy using bitcoins. so pray that the banks will not disappear. because it means end of the world if that happened. i cant imagine that we will use again gold, silve, bronze and other precious metal as currency. hahahah

[Searing]

Well if it was a 'giant' EMP pulse from the Sun (like the size..when was it 1859 yeah that it) ...and fried my Titan ASIC's into a lump of 'paperweight'

So much for BTC the gold guys would then be laughing their ass off...

so as calamities go that would be our LAST choice on how to 'sprun' a financial crisis don't ya know

The EVENT that we would all dread big time..in detail..but then again we likely would not be sweating the crypto stuff..in that all transformers on the earth would be toast

and it would be 'camp we are all screwed' for the human race on the infrastructure rebuild over the next decade......

then again I could finally get that 'woodcraft' badge and sharpen my rabbit skinning skills of my youth

The Event in detail below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

Anyway as a  way to a economic crisis that crypto would NOT benefit from this one is epic! lol

[virasisog]

If a major financial crisis happens in the whole world, and people lose confidence in fiat, the bitcoin price will rise.

[pocarime32]

If it happened, i'm sure it will affect the price of bitcoin so hard. The price of bitcoin can decrease so hard because the crisis is really big damage for entire world.

[oceanriver]

well then i guess a lot of people would be buying their bitcoins and start using it

[data1]

bitcoin is not gonna crash and we are much more secure and have taken many precausions so if market turned into a disaster then also we can servive this attack

[mrhelpful]

If a major financial crisis happens in the whole world, and people lose confidence in fiat, the bitcoin price will rise.

Not entirely true lol.

Your view is logical, but its skewed because you didnt factor in other things that people invest in as well which is gold.

Now if your answer was if the gold supply/silver was overflown still since the loss of faith and cant produce as fast buying with a overwhelming demand - then yes bitcoin will be the next viable option.

[Doamader]

Well if this problem really happens bitcoin could be the way to protect our money, but bitcoin need fiat to work out, otherwise price will dump or get pumped by those who own a big ammount of cash online.

[virasisog]

Well if this problem really happens bitcoin could be the way to protect our money, but bitcoin need fiat to work out, otherwise price will dump or get pumped by those who own a big ammount of cash online.

For the time being, the bitcoin needs the fiat to work out. When it becomes more popular, it can work independently.