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September 09, 2016, 07:09:50 PM
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I really like the idea of being able to establish rates that you will lend out for longer days.

My other suggestion is just a minor display, it would be nice if beside the rate there was a column that displayed what the annual percentage was after fees.  Also if it could show what all my micro loans outstanding have my portfolio returning as a whole.  Again display this as a daily and annually (after fees)

It would be nice to see that I have 10 BTC currently lent out, earning 13.5% per year.

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September 09, 2016, 08:16:58 PM
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I really like the idea of being able to establish rates that you will lend out for longer days.

My other suggestion is just a minor display, it would be nice if beside the rate there was a column that displayed what the annual percentage was after fees.  Also if it could show what all my micro loans outstanding have my portfolio returning as a whole.  Again display this as a daily and annually (after fees)

It would be nice to see that I have 10 BTC currently lent out, earning 13.5% per year.

Currently ( snapshot)  the rate is 0.0744 %   daily * 365 days  = 27.1 % yearly  ?      13.5%  is very low i am not offer that, min, set on 0.0600 %
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September 09, 2016, 08:49:10 PM
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mantas and superbit, thanks for your feedback, your ideas are interesting, i will take your suggestion and try to introduce something in the next release, i have to think a bit what could be the best way to introduce, this feature, i accept more suggestions, for example to try to find a balanced number of entries, in other words, we have to find / decide, how many bands/levels to implement 5, 10, how many ?

For your last statement mantas, to create the snapshot, the rate how do you thing has to be calculated, as a weighted average ? because you (when decide to take a snapshot) have a series of orders with different amount and different rates, so what is the "global" rate ?

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September 09, 2016, 09:41:43 PM
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mantas and superbit, thanks for your feedback, your ideas are interesting, i will take your suggestion and try to introduce something in the next release, i have to think a bit what could be the best way to introduce, this feature, i accept more suggestions, for example to try to find a balanced number of entries, in other words, we have to find / decide, how many bands/levels to implement 5, 10, how many ?

For your last statement mantas, to create the snapshot, the rate how do you thing has to be calculated, as a weighted average ? because you (when decide to take a snapshot) have a series of orders with different amount and different rates, so what is the "global" rate ?

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Yes a weighted average would give you your portfolio snapshot, but like I said, it should give you the rate after the fees on your earnings so you have a true indicator of your annual return.

Then I would make a small column beside 1st low rate, and beside last order rate, that displayed the rate as an annual return.

As for lending bands for number of days I think 3 would be enough, no need to get carried away. 

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September 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
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mantas and superbit, thanks for your feedback, your ideas are interesting, i will take your suggestion and try to introduce something in the next release, i have to think a bit what could be the best way to introduce, this feature, i accept more suggestions, for example to try to find a balanced number of entries, in other words, we have to find / decide, how many bands/levels to implement 5, 10, how many ?

For your last statement mantas, to create the snapshot, the rate how do you thing has to be calculated, as a weighted average ? because you (when decide to take a snapshot) have a series of orders with different amount and different rates, so what is the "global" rate ?

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Was just a example, a snapshot,  so yeh we could only know the yearly rate after one year, calculated, as a weighted average.
3 to 5 is fine to start with  x days    setting with min x.xxx  rate 

so if lower then, lets say 0.0600%  max 2 days


Different question for the group:  Do you think that when all BTC in acc. is lended out, there safer, then in the trading account?
Suppose someone breaks in he cant move BTC immediately because there locked in the loans. 
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September 11, 2016, 02:38:39 AM
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If they hack into your account then I guess maybe it's safer because lent out BTC couldn't be transferred, but if the exchange is hacked there is no way to know.  As in bitfinex they just divided the losses across all accounts not the exact specific accounts that lost the BTC that was held.

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September 13, 2016, 06:00:26 AM
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I have two suggestions for the author of this amazxing program.  First, could we get a running tally of total interest since using the bot(probably storing a total in a text file), and setting a set amount of a coin to lend out? Example I only want to lend out .01 dash, so that I can have them come to fruition more often on a rotating scale.  We have a minimum, but not a maximum.  Thanks again for the hard work.  I'm quite enjoying this gem that you've created.

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September 13, 2016, 06:07:08 AM
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I have two suggestions for the author of this amazxing program.  First, could we get a running tally of total interest since using the bot(probably storing a total in a text file), and setting a set amount of a coin to lend out? Example I only want to lend out .01 dash, so that I can have them come to fruition more often on a rotating scale.  We have a minimum, but not a maximum.  Thanks again for the hard work.  I'm quite enjoying this gem that you've created.

Hello Spiffy_1, thanks for your suggestions, i will take in consideration for the future release. A part regarding reporting for past activity, was in my mind too, and i will probably start to implement something with the 1.5 release, and also your second suggestion can be implemented too... i will think how to do at best.

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September 13, 2016, 06:46:33 AM
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Have not been using long but so far seems very good and could be a big time saver. Thanks cesmak Smiley
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September 13, 2016, 06:55:47 AM
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Have not been using long but so far seems very good and could be a big time saver. Thanks cesmak Smiley

Thank you H3..... Smiley

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September 17, 2016, 01:03:41 PM
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Lendingbot 1.4  does his job excellent, especially with the rates last 2 days!!!

I am lending out at 0.0990 % daily   

Wonder if this is a sort of tell!   We will see if rates go higher , must be because of traders take position.
So i would say there is a move coming up in the price of BTC. 

What does the group think?

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September 17, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
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The only think i can say is, that more people using automatic programs that try to take rates in the middle, (and don't use the auto renew function (manually) on the site), best is because rates stay less fluctuating, and if there is no hurry to put at first line a loan, it means that we will have better rates for investors..

BTC in particular in the last weeks have rates always above 0.05% and this is nice, but also it depends if the market is active or stagnant, at the moment is active and request for money is flowing, unfortunately when this flow stops or calm down rates goes down we can't do anything against this .....

This is my personal opinion.... Smiley

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September 20, 2016, 08:46:45 PM
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Started working on the new release 1.5, this is one of the first mod. i made :

Worked on the "Active loans" info window,



http://i.imgur.com/6v2wJZV.png

Look at the bottom of the window, i've added some calculations, mantas, is what you asked ? is it ok ?

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September 22, 2016, 05:29:57 AM
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Is that average weighted?
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September 22, 2016, 09:40:20 AM
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Is that average weighted?

Yes H3 the average is weighted by the amount of the rate of every single loan....

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September 23, 2016, 12:13:25 PM
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Hello, great work!

Keep it on! Wink

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September 23, 2016, 12:45:55 PM
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Hello, great work!

Keep it on! Wink

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Thank You Smiley

Yes, i'm, in developing, of other new features and improvements...

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September 23, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
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Cesmak,

Good to see , your busy on it.

I mean something different.

I would like to give a open loan offer,  when interest rates are higher , for example in BTC %0.0999    give it a longer loan duration, as when then interest rate is like BTC  %0.0666

So if there would be like 3 levels of interest %  with different Loan duration as setting

The setting could be like

setting 1    %0.0333    for 2 days
setting 2    %0.0666    for  11 days
setting 3    %0.0999    for   50 days

the program would select the matching loan offer with the corresponding duration on the current interest rate.
If the interest rate would be % 0.0689      the loan offer falls in setting 2 with a duration of 11 days.


Last week the interest rates in BTC were %0.1  and higher,   i would like to give it a longer duration against that kind of rates Smiley


Greetings Mantas

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September 23, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
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Cesmak,

Good to see , your busy on it.

I mean something different.

I would like to give a open loan offer,  when interest rates are higher , for example in BTC %0.0999    give it a longer loan duration, as when then interest rate is like BTC  %0.0666

So if there would be like 3 levels of interest %  with different Loan duration as setting

The setting could be like

setting 1    %0.0333    for 2 days
setting 2    %0.0666    for  11 days
setting 3    %0.0999    for   50 days

the program would select the matching loan offer with the corresponding duration on the current interest rate.
If the interest rate would be % 0.0689      the loan offer falls in setting 2 with a duration of 11 days.


Last week the interest rates in BTC were %0.1  and higher,   i would like to give it a longer duration against that kind of rates Smiley


Greetings Mantas



About this, i'm working on it too.... in the next days i will post a screenshot of the new improved setting to manage loans, with some extra ideas...

looking trough the past posts, seemed to me, that you also asked to have the APR snap of the active loans....

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September 23, 2016, 03:46:05 PM
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Cesmak,

The snapshot was more as example, to take from the current interest rate.

Below a picture of a active loan with 55 days and %0.4823 i put up on 16 sept .  When the interest rate was insane high in BTC.

We could let the program grasp that when there are more levels of settings .

Good to hear your busy on it, i am very exited Smiley
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