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What is your opinion about the European Union?

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June 30, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
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What is your opinion about the European Union?

according to me, at first, this union was the best of all other unions but now, it is collapsing because of ongoing refrugee crisis and its  wrong decisions on european econimics.. in ten years, it will have been totally ruined by muslim for sure..

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June 30, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
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As for me, Union is the best option for the european nations. Remember, Immanuel Kant wrote about two options of the future for mankind. A bad option is to be each nation apart, fall lonely or fight each other due to mess. It'll lead to the vast grave of humanity. And a good one is to unite nations into the one union for common help and wealth. That is what Kant called perpetual peace. There will be peace under the both options: with us and without. Though if we want to survive, we should choose a good one. Because of that, European Union as a unifying factor is one of the guarantees of human survival in future perpetual peace. IMO, I'd love more Union of Europe and the World than the isolation and real possibilities of protracted wars.

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June 30, 2016, 10:24:27 AM
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feminised homosexualised marxist organisation of pro muslim traitors that needs to fall and be replaced by something better

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call 奏he reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of 鼠ife', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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June 30, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
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feminised homosexualised marxist organisation of pro muslim traitors that needs to fall and be replaced by something better
Should it be replaced by masculinised heterosexualised traditionalist organization of pro christian crusaders?  Smiley

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June 30, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
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As for me, Union is the best option for the european nations. Remember, Immanuel Kant wrote about two options of the future for mankind. A bad option is to be each nation apart, fall lonely or fight each other due to mess. It'll lead to the vast grave of humanity. And a good one is to unite nations into the one union for common help and wealth. That is what Kant called perpetual peace. There will be peace under the both options: with us and without. Though if we want to survive, we should choose a good one. Because of that, European Union as a unifying factor is one of the guarantees of human survival in future perpetual peace. IMO, I'd love more Union of Europe and the World than the isolation and real possibilities of protracted wars.

Developed from the work of Immanuel Kant, the theory of democratic peace simply states that democracies do not fight with each other (Perpetual peace, 1975).

Democratic peace theory:

Monadic theory: Democracies are peaceful and less likely to go to war with any state
Dyadic theory: Argues that democracies are peacefull with eachother but are likely to fight with other non-democracies.
Systematic theory: Holds the argument that the international system becomes more peaceful with the increase of democratic states.

Isn't the European Union rather antidemocratic and therefore not an improvement to perpetual peace based on the arguments mentioned above?

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June 30, 2016, 01:11:43 PM
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Should it be replaced by masculinised heterosexualised traditionalist organization of pro christian crusaders?  Smiley
something along those lines yes

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June 30, 2016, 01:59:46 PM
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As Russian who needs to make the visa for visiting any countries of the Union I think it's just a group of countries who think they are much better than others. They are trying to build some positive economy, but the end will be the same like to other unions as USSR or Yugoslavia - it will fail apart.
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June 30, 2016, 02:34:31 PM
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As for me, Union is the best option for the european nations. Remember, Immanuel Kant wrote about two options of the future for mankind. A bad option is to be each nation apart, fall lonely or fight each other due to mess. It'll lead to the vast grave of humanity. And a good one is to unite nations into the one union for common help and wealth. That is what Kant called perpetual peace. There will be peace under the both options: with us and without. Though if we want to survive, we should choose a good one. Because of that, European Union as a unifying factor is one of the guarantees of human survival in future perpetual peace. IMO, I'd love more Union of Europe and the World than the isolation and real possibilities of protracted wars.

Developed from the work of Immanuel Kant, the theory of democratic peace simply states that democracies do not fight with each other (Perpetual peace, 1975).

Democratic peace theory:

Monadic theory: Democracies are peaceful and less likely to go to war with any state
Dyadic theory: Argues that democracies are peacefull with each other but are likely to fight with other non-democracies.
Systematic theory: Holds the argument that the international system becomes more peaceful with the increase of democratic states.

Isn't the European Union rather antidemocratic and therefore not an improvement to perpetual peace based on the arguments mentioned above?
It is very not clear, how from the theory of democratic peace comes that EU is antidemocratic and therefore denies a perpetual peace.
First I want to understand what your is point about democratic peace theory. You said that democratic theory of peace claims that democracies either don't fight any state (monadic theory) or don't fight each other, but can fight non-democracies (dyadic theory) - we can say, strong pacifism (when democracies tend to avoid wars) and weak pacifism (when democracies can go to ar with non-democracies). Independently from version of pacifism, the democracies growth makes international system more peaceful and secure (systematic theory).
Are there any facts on the EU or statements in its documents, which tell that EU is antidemocratic and incompatible with perpetual peace? Let's see. First of all, is the EU denies principles of democracy and therefore is antidemocratic. By its statements, the EU is democracy. But as for examples. Do we see persecutions of eurosceptics or EU/NATO tanks in London due to Brexit? No, we don't. Which is not true for the USSR (sometimes people incorrectly equalize the EU and the USSR): there were persecutions of anti-Soviets and the Warsaw Pact tanks in Budapest and later in Prague. Next, can the EU go to war? I can, so it is not strong pacifism. But does not approve the war. War is a last resort, it is ultima ratio regum for Europe. The EU could not tolerate anti-democracies, but going to war with them is the last resort for the EU. And the Union welcomes worldwide growth of democracy. So it could very undesirable contradict to the monadic theory, it doesn't contradict to the dyadic theory (there was no war between the EU members inside) and systematic theory.
So the EU is democratic and compatible with perpetual peace since I do not see the opposite reasons.

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June 30, 2016, 04:36:43 PM
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What is your opinion about the European Union?

The EU was poorly thought out, Democracies and socialist can't work. other talk to much and gets very little done and Then there's socialism that works good until you run out of other peoples money to spend, This is the cat fight from hell.

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June 30, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
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antidemocratic
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June 30, 2016, 04:52:38 PM
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monopoly game of imperialism

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June 30, 2016, 06:06:17 PM
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EU Dominated by Communists - UKIP Nigel Farage -October 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SHAhP_Hy18
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June 30, 2016, 06:46:10 PM
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Useful. But not irreplaceable. The common market, freedom of movement, some common rules and interests, etc help it be more competitive against other countries. And have more weight in the world. Better than individual countries fighting for themselves and their interests. But I don't agree with the neoliberal policies implemented. With the devastation caused in countries like greece for example.

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June 30, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
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It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

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June 30, 2016, 07:40:27 PM
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Very few people know that European Union was established by big bankers and its policies are controlled by Zionist Jews

http://dvcronin.blogspot.ca/2010/11/how-israel-lobby-dictates-eu-policy.html
http://englishnews.org/news-central/resources/resource-a-conclusive-report-on-the-undeniable-self-evident-jewish-eu.html
https://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/index_eu.htm
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June 30, 2016, 07:44:55 PM
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Many Norwegians are fighting to get out of the economic union that we are in against our will.
Sadly it doesn't seem that we get a vote since both out big party's are pro EU even if just, if I remember right, 19% of the people is pro EU. UK, don't go for the Norwegian model. Get something better
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June 30, 2016, 08:13:09 PM
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It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Why do you think turkey is joining the eu? There are talks going on. But lots of problems to solve first before they can join. And no one wants to ignore those to let them join sooner. The european commission said recently no one would join the eu in the next five years. Probably it will be much longer for turkey.

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June 30, 2016, 08:51:59 PM
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It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Seems like that promise will never be kept. Turkey wont be able to join ever.

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June 30, 2016, 11:04:04 PM
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i believe smoothing trade and borders is a good thing. i don't believe attempting to shoehorn crazily disparate cultures and economies into one box can ever work and that's ably demonstrated by the last few years.

there's enough discontent in the us at federalization and they all share a language and culture and it's been in place for over a century. 

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