Betsoft Gamings Questionable Behavior, How Should Bitcoin Casinos Respond?

[casinobitco]

Folks...

Solid lesson here:  Provably Fair, or don't play at all.

Does that also apply to your feature game, or just other peoples?

Hi Ryan! Having a good night?

Yes, it implies to all 5 of our Provably Fair Games, not just the feature P2P Game we developed.

[RHavar]

Hi Ryan! Having a good night?

Not really, I already have a hang-over. How can you tell? 

Yes, it implies to all 5 of our Provably Fair Games, not just the feature P2P Game we developed.

I'm not sure what that means. Your feature game is not provably fair... so are you suggesting people don't play it? 

[casinobitco]

Hi Ryan! Having a good night?

Not really, I already have a hang-over. How can you tell?  

Yes, it implies to all 5 of our Provably Fair Games, not just the feature P2P Game we developed.

I'm not sure what that means. Your feature game is not provably fair... so are you suggesting people don't play it?  

The feature game is Peer to Peer, you're not playing against the house.

The other games we've built a few year back, ahead of the feature game, are located under the "bitcoin casino" button in the top-nav.

OP- Sorry to hijack the thread, just wanted to chime in and say provably fair is the only way to go.

[TwitchySeal]

Hi Ryan! Having a good night?

Not really, I already have a hang-over. How can you tell?  

Yes, it implies to all 5 of our Provably Fair Games, not just the feature P2P Game we developed.

I'm not sure what that means. Your feature game is not provably fair... so are you suggesting people don't play it?  

The feature game is Peer to Peer, you're not playing against the house.

The other games we've built a few year back, ahead of the feature game, are located under the "bitcoin casino" button in the top-nav.

OP- Sorry to hijack the thread, I'm done here.

No worries, these are all important things to discuss.  

I think RHaver is right though, about bitcoin rush.  P2P games shouldn't be exempt just because the house isn't a player.  You could easily play as a player and when its your turn to go first, change your number the instant your opponent selects.  It would only take an occasional "switch", to gain a huge edge while it would take a long time for anyone to prove any accusation against you.

Has there ever been a provably fair p2p game?  I doubt we'll ever see a poker site that is successful and provably fair.  If we do I imagine it would need to be limited to heads up play.

Twitchy...  There must be some seriously ill-informed affiliates out there, we are giving out 0.3% of all HANDLE, not losses... Imagine the payback there!
Source: https://bitcoinrush.io/affiliates

I could be wrong, but I believe Betcoin has recently incresed their affiliate structure to be even more aggressive.  This is starting to seem more and more like an amwway-ish multi-level marketing scheme with the software providers at the top (with most of the likely owned by the same people) and less like a "casino"


Also worth mentioning this casino affiliate model does not translate to poker.  Serious players are forced to "affiliate shop" to find the affiliate that pays highest percentage back to them, which means multi accounts and most deals now result in player funds now exposed to a third party in addition to the casino before returning to the player.  Perfect recipe for corruption.  Speaking of which, I recommend checking out the last few pages of Betcoins sig campaign thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15443347#msg15443347

[TwitchySeal]

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