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July 31, 2019, 07:49:23 PM
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@Initscri, I made a post, thepogg.com asked me to take it down as I linked to them so at their request I removed the post. They do casino complaints service so I mentioned and linked it.
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July 31, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
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Here is the link to the ThePOGG brain wash story:

https://thepogg.com/game-protect-lazy-and-sensationalist-approach-does-more-harm-than-good/

Brain wash artist ThePOGG claims that enforcing claims through legal channels does more harm than good!

Yes, for the offenders is does more harm than good! Cheesy

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August 01, 2019, 02:13:20 AM
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Here is the link to the ThePOGG brain wash story:

https://thepogg.com/game-protect-lazy-and-sensationalist-approach-does-more-harm-than-good/

Brain wash artist ThePOGG claims that enforcing claims through legal channels does more harm than good!

Yes, for the offenders is does more harm than good! Cheesy

That article is way above your reading level.
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August 03, 2019, 05:04:27 PM
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1xbet.com and 1xbit.com enforcement proceeding has started, please submit your claims?

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August 05, 2019, 06:35:51 AM
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When you have a legal issue like scammed by an online casino, will you ask gamblers?

If yes, why?

If not, who will you ask instead?

Have you ever rejected a customer or do you actually believe all of them? My experience with gambling has showed me that most gamblers that scream they have been scammed are usually wrong.
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August 05, 2019, 09:53:40 AM
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Children reading the extremely mentally ill brain wash nonsense shit of the below bitcointalk accounts are at a high risk of getting mentally abused!

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marlboroza alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with game-protect is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

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August 05, 2019, 05:03:00 PM
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The revolution is here!

https://lottery.game-protect.com Play Casino + Lottery with no scam guarantee | anonym + instant | all countries
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Since game-protect is not declaring which license of which the casino operates, we have no reason to believe that it is licensed at all.

Thus, unless we have proof of a license, then game-protect is hosting an unlicensed casino.

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August 05, 2019, 08:11:07 PM
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When you have a legal issue like scammed by an online casino, will you ask gamblers?

If yes, why?

If not, who will you ask instead?

Have you ever rejected a customer or do you actually believe all of them?
Game Protect is not a church and we ask for proof of the claim.

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August 05, 2019, 08:24:36 PM
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When you have a legal issue like scammed by an online casino, will you ask gamblers?

If yes, why?

If not, who will you ask instead?

Have you ever rejected a customer or do you actually believe all of them?
Game Protect is not a church and we ask for proof of the claim.

And yet you claim that we are child abusers without providing any proof

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August 05, 2019, 09:27:19 PM
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The revolution is here!

https://lottery.game-protect.com Play Casino + Lottery with no scam guarantee | anonym + instant | all countries
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Since game-protect is not declaring which license of which the casino operates, we have no reason to believe that it is licensed at all.

Thus, unless we have proof of a license, then game-protect is hosting an unlicensed casino.

So this was his plan all along, eventually release gambling games himself but he failed on the first part, trying to be a reputable and trusted source. It also has no provably fair system, should we contact game-protect to tell him I lost money on that lottery?
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August 06, 2019, 11:05:28 AM
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Betcos scam

A bettor was using the Betcos scam service and betting on ITF events. After the bettor won 1,000€, the Betcos scam suspended his account!

1) Betcos Victim:
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What that means - UserClosedException

When you will process my withdrawals?

2) Betcos scam support:
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Hi xxx,

Your bets in ITF events are being analyzed by our trading team. Until then, we will keep your acciount suspended.

Sincerely,
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3) Betcos victim:

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What exactly you analyze?

What is wrong with them?

The Betcos scam support never answered again and victim gave Game Protect the order to assist him getting his 1,000€. Game Protect contacted the Betcos scam support team and received the following answer.

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We received your emails and we truly don´t believe they deserve response. Your client (or whatever he is) presented clear patterns or professional gambling, which we clearly stand agains in our T&C. If you would do the work of reading our T&C and know exactly the betting activity he had, you wouldn´t bother with the ridiculousness of this emails.
So, please, feel free to act accordingly your business. We don´t care.

Sincerely,
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Hi,

Thanks for answering. If you show me the proof that xxx breached your T&C, I will refrain from further activity like publishing the Betcos scam article that will bring you much more losses than the 1,000€ you are trying to scam from xxx.

In general, the one accusing someone for doing something wrong has to show the proof of the accusation! Agreed?

If the Betcos trading team was able to collect proof that the account holder breached their T&C, why did not they inform the account holder? Why did they simply cut the conversation instead? That highly indicates that Betcos is scamming the account holder!

If you had a bad experience with Betcos, please post here?

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August 06, 2019, 02:49:44 PM
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Oi dickhead game-protect! You fuck is a bastard. How many man fucked your mother? Count me too. May be I would like to give you a half sibling.



Now you had another chance for wolf.bet?

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August 06, 2019, 03:13:11 PM
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Oi dickhead game-protect! You fuck is a bastard. How many man fucked your mother? Count me too. May be I would like to give you a half sibling.



Now you had another chance for wolf.bet?

Dude, don't sweat it, his ratings are worthless and appear as non-trusted. To be honest at this point I think he is getting close to a ban, the forum rules clearly state trolling is not allowed. Theymos also said that while he doesn't usually intervene in between trust ratings disputes, if someone is clearly abusing trust ratings (game-protect) he will delete or ban the user.
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August 06, 2019, 03:19:25 PM
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Dude, don't sweat it, his ratings are worthless and appear as non-trusted.
I know the rating does not reflect in the profile and it's worthless for that but when someone visit the trust page and if they do not have much idea about forum trust feedback system then they will make wrong assumption looking at those feedback he left for users.

I am not a guy who talk shits (swears and hard on people) but this fuck is taking things to a whole new level.

Anyway, thanks for the mental support bud.

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August 06, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
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How is no one lost money within the past 3,5 years of existence = high risk of losing money?!?

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marlboroza alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with game-protect is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

What is the difference between believe and opinion?


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August 06, 2019, 03:37:07 PM
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The revolution is here!

https://lottery.game-protect.com Play Casino + Lottery with no scam guarantee | anonym + instant | all countries
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Since game-protect is not declaring which license of which the casino operates, we have no reason to believe that it is licensed at all.

Thus, unless we have proof of a license, then game-protect is hosting an unlicensed casino.
game-protect is hosting an unlicensed casino.
game-protect also believes that unlicensed casinos are operating illegally.
Therefore...?

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August 06, 2019, 03:42:27 PM
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How is no one lost money within the past 3,5 years of existence = high risk of losing money?!?

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marlboroza alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with game-protect is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

What is the difference between believe and opinion?



Well if you scam someone, you wouldn't be someone at high risk of scamming, you would just be a scammer, funny how that works huh? Trust ratings are only for people that have committed fraud, of course if you committed a scam, you are a scammer. However, even if you haven't committed a scam yet, it doesn't mean you are not going to do so in the future. Of course this could be applied to everyone but not everyone is batshit crazy like you.

You see a guy with a suit on the street and another guy wearing shit on his head and screaming he is going to kill everyone, who are you going to trust more? Does this mean the guy with shit on his head is a murderer? No, he hasn't murdered anyone yet but you would assume he is at a high risk of doing so, no?
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August 06, 2019, 05:20:05 PM
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@Astargath a good comparison would be that trust ratings (and flag_1) for high-risk individuals can be based upon character-based evidence whereas trust flags 2 and 3 for outright contractual violations require substantial evidence. Mere hearsay and/or past history is not enough to invoke a level 2/3 flag upon a member.

We might also draw analogues to that of civil vs. criminal law. The burden of proof is much higher in the latter whereas in the former, (most of the time) it is a preponderance of the evidence.

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August 07, 2019, 03:13:11 AM
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I don't support game-protect.com,  but what I agree with them is that Curacao "license" is just a piece of toilet paper. It doesn't guarantee anything to the players as Curacao jurisdiction does not participate as a mediator in disputes between gamblers and operators. This piece of paper is not accepted by developed countries. Some casinos use it because they want to pretend that they are legit and the cheapest way to do that is to buy the Curacao "license".

You obviously feel you have been mistreated therefore I sympathise with you but I would like to see what game-protect has to say about this before coming to a conclusion.

It is common knowledge that most websites operating with a Curaçao licence are those that wish to have their owners maximise anonymity and also have a seal to display on their website to show they have a casino licence. That might have an effect on newbies and gullible people which gives peace of mind when betting but to a seasoned individual we know that any licence from Curaçao is a useless, meaningless token to display.

I have no idea why game-protect selects some websites as genuine and others as scams - I look forward to his reply to try to understand what is going on from his side.
We have 3 parts:

1) The Warnings list! with proven scams and likely scams based on false and misleading claims about license or operatior. This list is of course not complete and if you think you simply will avoid using any of these casinos and everything is fine, then you are wrong!

2) The Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ list with casinos false and misleading claiming that they have a license or are authorized by the Government of Curacao! This is important to know, because if you will have an issue (and thousands of players have) there is likely no one who will help you! However, a casino on this list does not necessarily mean it will scam you.

3) The Qualify free list where you can register with Game Protect and play with consumer protection service inclusive. Play with consumer protection service means that we will try to enforce your money on our expenses if you will get scammed.

It is indeed possible that a not licensed casino made the setup completely anonymous and there are no liable parties to find, but in most cases I will find liable parties and if the casino is since years on the market without scams, it is usually not required to find liable parties.

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August 07, 2019, 05:44:20 AM
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I don't support game-protect.com,  but what I agree with them is that Curacao "license" is just a piece of toilet paper. It doesn't guarantee anything to the players as Curacao jurisdiction does not participate as a mediator in disputes between gamblers and operators. This piece of paper is not accepted by developed countries. Some casinos use it because they want to pretend that they are legit and the cheapest way to do that is to buy the Curacao "license".

You obviously feel you have been mistreated therefore I sympathise with you but I would like to see what game-protect has to say about this before coming to a conclusion.

It is common knowledge that most websites operating with a Curaçao licence are those that wish to have their owners maximise anonymity and also have a seal to display on their website to show they have a casino licence. That might have an effect on newbies and gullible people which gives peace of mind when betting but to a seasoned individual we know that any licence from Curaçao is a useless, meaningless token to display.

I have no idea why game-protect selects some websites as genuine and others as scams - I look forward to his reply to try to understand what is going on from his side.
We have 3 parts:

1) The Warnings list! with proven scams and likely scams based on false and misleading claims about license or operatior. This list is of course not complete and if you think you simply will avoid using any of these casinos and everything is fine, then you are wrong!

2) The Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ list with casinos false and misleading claiming that they have a license or are authorized by the Government of Curacao! This is important to know, because if you will have an issue (and thousands of players have) there is likely no one who will help you! However, a casino on this list does not necessarily mean it will scam you.

3) The Qualify free list where you can register with Game Protect and play with consumer protection service inclusive. Play with consumer protection service means that we will try to enforce your money on our expenses if you will get scammed.

It is indeed possible that a not licensed casino made the setup completely anonymous and there are no liable parties to find, but in most cases I will find liable parties and if the casino is since years on the market without scams, it is usually not required to find liable parties.

Your own casino is using this same license.

You have yet to answer to this. How can you call other casinos scams for using these licenses when your own casino does?

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