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August 08, 2016, 12:21:56 PM
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So you yourself aren't a lawyer, but you offer legal help in case people need it. How does this work?
I am a private detective and organize everything, investigate and impart the contact between the victims and the lawyers and pay the costs of the proceedings for qualified accounts.

Do you just have a law firm you contact? This is why I asked you which country you are based in.
Yes, I contact and cooperate with law firms around the world and where it is required.


If you are simply acting as a middleman for the legal team why can't I just go find a law firm myself and file a case? I'm struggling to actually understand the service you provide here.
Nothing is simple in regard to international structured online gambling scams!

- It is required to collect proof of the victims

- You probably need to investigate worldwide

- You need to contact law firms in the applicable jurisdictions

- In some cases criminal complaints to the police / authorities are required

If you have all the knowledge, 100s of hours of time and are able and willing to spend $10,000s, then you can of course organize everything by yourself.

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August 09, 2016, 03:39:22 PM
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He is one of twitchyseal's recruits....be careful with this guy!
I'd really appreciate it if you quit making shit up about me cjmoles.  

I do not endorse game-protects services. I would not recommend anyone use his paid services or make any formal agreements with him that would entitle him to any portion of your funds without some serious consultation with third party you trust.

He has contributed valuable information when it comes to holding bitcoin casinos responsible for their actions, which I appreciate.

The third party you trust should be as well competent. It does not make any sense to consult your baker in such cases, even if he is your most trusted person. Smiley I also do not recommend to ask so called self-appointed "legal experts".

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August 11, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
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Most of us are receiving negative feedbacks from self proclaimed saints.
Is there any way to defend from these false accusations?
I posted a negative feedback to his account, although it doesn't hurt him that much - it is just a jr account, opened a month ago and used deliberately to fight with the competition.
If the criminal laws of your jurisdiction allow to promote a publicly proven scam for your own financial benefit, simply quote that law and I will remove my feedback.

In any other case, these are no false accusations!

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August 12, 2016, 06:11:16 PM
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If a gambling company pays people to post nonsense, then I would be very concerned that they use player deposits for business expenses.  Sad


Why don't you take all that energy and passion you have, and put it to use in learning to do something honest to earn income.
Are you just looking into the mirror and speak with yourself?

That would be a good question to the promoters of the betcoin.ag scam?


Stop trying to trick people out of their money. It's wrong!
Agreed! You should stop promoting betcoin.ag


And, making false accusations against all those users above....not something an intelligent person would do....you don't even know them!
How specifically made I false accusations against the promoters?

Ahh, so the police only accuses people they know personally?


And, that's also wrong!  All you've proven here is that you're unethical, immoral, and unintelligent.
Yes, you have proven that you are unethical, immoral and unintelligent! I have proven the opposite Smiley


No honest, thinking person would ever do business with you while you demonstrate those traits.
There are obviously enough people willing to do business with betcoin.ag, otherwise why would they pay 60 promoters for promoting them?
 

Think about that while you're masterminding your next scam.
You are already masterminding your next scam? Do you expect that betcoin.ag will reduce payments or give up their signature and avatar campaign?

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August 14, 2016, 04:07:25 PM
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Beware! This guy is a public liar and an advertised thief! 

thief -> http://game-protect.com/
What and how much has Game Protect stolen?

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August 18, 2016, 10:29:49 AM
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I was wondering where the troll posts are and just see that they went to my Feedback section.

The most noteworthy "legal expert" is clearly RHavar:

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A) This user provides a service which appears to be nothing but a scammy attempt to collect referrals and/or a yearly fee. B) The site is set up anonymously and does nothing to demonstrate it provides the promised services.

A) Game Protect provides Full Flush Poker litigation proceeding on a "no cure no pay" basis and does not collect referrals or a yearly fee to join these offers!

B) You claim 13th August 2016 that the since months! pending Full Flush Poker litigation proceeding "does nothing to demonstrate it provides the promised services". Roll Eyes The drugs you take must be very strong, or maybe you are mentally ill?

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August 18, 2016, 10:36:22 AM
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Dude, you're not a lawyer,...
I have never said I am.

Good, so you studied law on Google. Which is a real asset AFAIK.

What's your specialty, common law or civil law?

If you give me your address I'll send a copy of the Magna Charta to your office.


My dear self-proclaimed "game-protector" I'm sorry but you have no credibility here.

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August 18, 2016, 07:52:10 PM
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Dude, you're not a lawyer,...
I have never said I am.

Good, so you studied law on Google. Which is a real asset AFAIK.
Correct.


What's your specialty, common law or civil law?
Google laws...


If you give me your address I'll send a copy of the Magna Charta to your office.
If you give me your address I'll send you the police.  Wink


My dear self-proclaimed "game-protector" I'm sorry but you have no credibility here.
I and many others already know that betcoin.ag has no credibilty here and I would be very concerned if a gambling site pays for nonsense posts.

However, as betcoin.ag did not pay the 500 Bitcoins jackpot, there might be some money left to pay for nonsense posts instead! Cheesy

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August 19, 2016, 03:02:54 PM
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Just another "legal expert" in my Feedback section

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Avoid his service. He has made bold claims to be able to recover funds from broke and bankrupt poker sites that no longer exist (ex. Lock Poker)!

Game Protect offers dispute resolution, lawyer action, private investigation and court proceedings that could lead to payment of the money owed.

In criminal cases, we will not claim the money from the bankrupt company, but from the liable participants who are also liable with their private assests!

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August 19, 2016, 05:19:25 PM
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I must admit you are a funny guy. I like your sense of humour as I probably think you liked mine.

By the way, when you talk money to me please study before.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574482.0

And also, as you may have noticed, I did not leave you any neg trust since I believe this trust system does not work at all.

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August 20, 2016, 06:05:38 AM
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Not to let skepticism get the better of me, but the whole site raises more than one red flag. Do you have anything that can show the whole thing is not a scam itself? You have a lot of big name "partners" but after a quick search, I couldn't find anything on any of your partners sites that would back up the partnership. You also claim to litigate on behalf of your clients, do you have documentation of litigation you've been involved in?

It also looks like you yourself have gone to effort to be anonymous (domain registered through a proxy, origin hidden behind cloudflare, only accepting payment in bitcoin, no contact details) which strikes me as quite odd for a litigation partner

I have left appropriate feedback for this GARBAGE.  What a waste of my brain power addressing ANOTHER SCAM!

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August 20, 2016, 10:06:23 AM
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I must admit you are a funny guy.
Thank you.  Smiley


I like your sense of humour as I probably think you liked mine.
Unfortunately, I can not like anything of someone who promotes a publicly proven scam.  Sad


By the way, when you talk money to me please study before.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574482.0
Betcoin.ag pay for a ton of nonsense posts and my concern is that they probably take this money from player deposits. As well as they pay up to 133% rakeback + affiliate commissions. And if someone wins a 500 Bitcoins jackpot, they do not have the money to pay = embezzlement.

Other reputable gambling companies do not have such an uneconomical and nonsensical behaviour!

If you want to help others, I recommend to help players who got cheaten heavily. In this case you could wear a signature campaign and avatar cost free for Game Protect.

Game Protect is a non-profit alliance that uses revenue to pay the costs to enforce the rights of victims.

BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot
-> Jasonort i.e. crystal clear won a 500 Bitcoins jackpot at betcoin.ag and could enforce his win thru legal proceedings.


And also, as you may have noticed, I did not leave you any neg trust since I believe this trust system does not work at all.
The trust system obviously does not work properly, as everyone can state whatever he likes and this totally independent of whether the claim is true or not.

Even if the false and misleading statement is already disproven, the lie remain in the Feedback section.

Therefore, I personally do not give anything about this trust system, but name the nonsense and criminal behaviour here in my threat.

Shady affiliates and operators are obviously not happy with Game Protect and their conspirators have of course to bad mouth it.

If someone wants to get misleaded by the Feedback section, it is up to him. I can inform that a lot of people already use our Online Gaming Consumer Protection service for Game Protect not qualified accounts. If someone decided not to use our service because of the false and misleading statements in the Feedback section, then he can gladly say thank you to the liars if he got cheaten and has no possibility to enforce his claim. Cheesy

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August 20, 2016, 07:06:11 PM
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Not to let skepticism get the better of me, but the whole site raises more than one red flag. Do you have anything that can show the whole thing is not a scam itself? You have a lot of big name "partners" but after a quick search, I couldn't find anything on any of your partners sites that would back up the partnership. You also claim to litigate on behalf of your clients, do you have documentation of litigation you've been involved in?

It also looks like you yourself have gone to effort to be anonymous (domain registered through a proxy, origin hidden behind cloudflare, only accepting payment in bitcoin, no contact details) which strikes me as quite odd for a litigation partner

I have left appropriate feedback for this GARBAGE.  What a waste of my brain power addressing ANOTHER SCAM!
Thank you very much that you left appropriate feedback for RHavar's GARBAGE!

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If you want to help others, I recommend to help players who got cheaten heavily.

Everybody's free in helping in the way he/she wants. I do my little part to help others, not here, but in the real life.

Having said this, I appreciated your reply. I supposed you were a pure troll, maybe you are not.




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August 21, 2016, 02:40:01 PM
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Aaand another "legal expert" in my Feedback section

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a) Claims in part if you pay for their service, "Lawyer and civil court proceeding, in case you have a valid claim and we can not reach a resolution" for online gaming.

b) Totally FALSE don't pay for this garbage. c) In the USA, you CANNOT sue for the very fact online gaming is illegal. Ex. A hooker suing a John for not paying her. You cannot come to court with "unclean hands".

All this "service" will do is post on their website and around at forums. Buyer protection my foot. AVOID THIS SCAM

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a) Claims in part if you pay for their service,...

1) You can qualify for our consumer protection service either cost free if you register your accounts with any Qualify free site or for a donation.

2) No cure no pay offers like Full Flush Poker litigation are basically cost free.


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b) Totally FALSE don't pay for this garbage.

Enforce account balances from criminal operators is false garbage? Do you live behind the moon? On the earth, every public system works based on laws and court proceedings. Roll Eyes


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c) In the USA, you CANNOT sue for the very fact online gaming is illegal.

1) But the criminal operators are usually outside the USA?

2) Online gambling is only illegal in the few regulated states (I think currently 6 or so). In all other states online gambling is allowed and you CAN sue the hell out of gambling operators!

It is not allowed to send money to gambling sites, but the sender do not breach any US laws. It is the processor who breaches the laws.  Roll Eyes

3) Even if you played illegal from one of the regulated states, you could sue criminal operators abroad, for example in Curacao.

This is because a Curacao license allows to offer gambling worldwide, except in Curacao itself. You did not breach Curacao laws if you played from the USA, so please explain with content and facts why you could not sue a criminal operator in Curacao?

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August 22, 2016, 09:53:57 AM
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Please take a look at "legal expert" Nubitcoinerr

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"Clearly a scam artist or goof. Barely knows English and claiming he can get lawyers if you are ripped off by online casino.... as long as you subscribe to his site lol"

False and misleading claims that Game Protect is a scam artist or goof, without the ability to deliver any kind of explanation or proof of his claim!

Doubt that Game Protect can get lawyers if you are ripped off by online casinos, even though there are already cases since months with lawyers involved. LOL, this must hurt heavily in the brain!

Full Flush Poker litigation case.

Are you able to explain the relation between barely knows English and finding lawyers? Do you think that only native English speakers can hire lawyers?

What if I need a native Dutch speaking lawyer? Does this require to be a native English speaker?  Roll Eyes

No. The ability to get lawyers is not limited to "as long as you subscribe to this site lol". We have also lawyers for the "no cure no pay" cases.

The only difference is:

a) In case of Game Protect qualified gambling accounts, we pay all the costs and the claimants will receive the full collectable amount

b) In case of Game Protect not qualified accounts, the claimants will receive only a certain percentage of the collectable amount

I recommend to first read a little bit at www.game-protect.com before you make nonsensical and unrealistic claims  Roll Eyes

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August 23, 2016, 04:10:50 AM
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not from google scholar  Wink but I'll bitch slap you back just the same

You are nothing more than fullashit another scammer/con artist.  Your other attempt at scamming and blackmailing with the other site you let expire  Lips sealed

All you do is run around forums spilling tea in a pathetic attempt of blackmail (again, you can't sue your drug dealer for shafting you.  JUST about as much as those you attempt at blackmail cannot sue you either  Roll Eyes)

You want to compare apples and oranges?  Your website versus what can actually happen with gambling sites? 

Let's just go for what you list and I will try to educate you and anyone reading as best as I can.

1) Is Game Protect restricted to the USA? Your mouth is not.  Your site is nothing.  Your talking shit on forums means nothing.  Dude you are no where even close to a review site, let alone a "service" that can do anything.  Except as I said, run around forums.  However, be advised, if someone wanted to go after you for blackmail/extortion/defamation/etc they could.  But, doubt they will as I said, the john isn't going to court claiming the hooker ripped him/her off and neither is the hooker about the john ripping him/her off.  So, you should be thankful, the scammers haven't sued your ass.

2) Online gambling is only illegal in the regulated states (I think currently 6 or so). In all other states online gambling is allowed and you CAN sue the hell out of criminal online gambling operators! Where the fuck you get this info? oh I forgot google scholar  Roll Eyes Go read the LAW, local/state/federal, go read the Department of Justice, go read the FBI, and not only read it but comprehend.  You are just talkin outta your ass Roll Eyes

It is not allowed to send money to gambling sites, but the sender do not breach any US laws. It is the processor who breaches the laws.  Roll Eyes...................If you send money IT'S ILLEGAL If you receive money IT'S ILLEGAL, I'm guilty for paying a hooker and she/he is guilty for accepting it

3) Even if you played illegal from one of the regulated states, you could sue criminal operators abroad, for example in Curacao

This is because a Curacao license allows to offer gambling worldwide, except in Curacao itself. You did not breach Curacao laws if you played from the USA, so please explain with content and facts why you could not sue a criminal operator in Curacao?

Again, see above.  In addition: 

No state/country/gov/etc gives a shit where/what another "allows". Drugs are allowed in Amsterdam THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED in US.  Learn (from your google scholar) that 1 countries laws means absolute shit to another country, esp USA.  US law trumps all, including "Curacao".  Your Doctor degree in Spain does NOT make you a Dr. in the US. 

Now I will lastly add:

Anyone can file a form/sue anyone.  I can go to a court and file a suit against the hooker who ripped me off and even the drug dealer who screwed me.  It means NOTHING! It will be automatically dismissed and I just wasted my time and court fees.

Man you are nothing but noise  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes






Aaaand another "legal expert" in my Feedback section

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a) Claims in part if you pay for their service, "Lawyer and civil court proceeding, in case you have a valid claim and we can not reach a resolution" for online gaming.

b) Totally FALSE don't pay for this garbage. c) In the USA, you CANNOT sue for the very fact online gaming is illegal. Ex. A hooker suing a John for not paying her. You cannot come to court with "unclean hands".

All this "service" will do is post on their website and around at forums. Buyer protection my foot. AVOID THIS SCAM

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a) Claims in part if you pay for their service,...

1) Register with partner sites is cost free.

2) No cure no pay offers like https://game-protect.com/full-flush-litigation-offer/ and https://game-protect.com/lock-poker-business-plan/ are cost free.


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b) Totally FALSE don't pay for this garbage.

Lawyer and civil court proceedings are FALSE and garbage? LOL, do you live behind the moon? On the earth, every public system works based on court proceedings... Roll Eyes


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c) In the USA, you CANNOT sue for the very fact online gaming is illegal.

1) Is Game Protect restricted to the USA?

2) Online gambling is only illegal in the regulated states (I think currently 6 or so). In all other states online gambling is allowed and you CAN sue the hell out of criminal online gambling operators!

It is not allowed to send money to gambling sites, but the sender do not breach any US laws. It is the processor who breaches the laws.  Roll Eyes

3) Even if you played illegal from one of the regulated states, you could sue criminal operators abroad, for example in Curacao.

This is because a Curacao license allows to offer gambling worldwide, except in Curacao itself. You did not breach Curacao laws if you played from the USA, so please explain with content and facts why you could not sue a criminal operator in Curacao?

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August 23, 2016, 05:13:50 PM
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Mamma mia! So much nonsense within one post!  Cheesy

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not from google scholar  Wink but I'll bitch slap you back just the same

You are nothing more than fullashit another scammer/con artist.  Your other attempt at scamming and blackmailing with the other site you let expire  Lips sealed

All you do is run around forums spilling tea in a pathetic attempt of blackmail (again, you can't sue your drug dealer for shafting you.  JUST about as much as those you attempt at blackmail cannot sue you either  Roll Eyes)
I am a scammer because of what?

I did scam and blackmail which other site I let expire? Sorry, if you tell me what drugs you take and I will take them too, I might will be able to understand you better, but so...  Roll Eyes

No. I do more than spilling in forums, see https://game-protect.com

Drug dealing and online gambling are juridically 2 different pair of shoes.


You want to compare apples and oranges?  Your website versus what can actually happen with gambling sites?  

Let's just go for what you list and I will try to educate you and anyone reading as best as I can.

1) Is Game Protect restricted to the USA?

Your mouth is not.  Your site is nothing.  Your talking shit on forums means nothing.  Dude you are no where even close to a review site, let alone a "service" that can do anything.  Except as I said, run around forums.  However, be advised, if someone wanted to go after you for blackmail/extortion/defamation/etc they could.  But, doubt they will as I said, the john isn't going to court claiming the hooker ripped him/her off and neither is the hooker about the john ripping him/her off.  So, you should be thankful, the scammers haven't sued your ass.
Game Protect never claimed to be a review site.  Roll Eyes

"service" is already in process, but to realize this would require to be able to read.

In other jurisdictions prostitution is allowed and John or the hooker could very well go to the court if him/her ripped off.  Roll Eyes

The scammers could sue me based on what?


2) Online gambling is only illegal in the regulated states (I think currently 6 or so). In all other states online gambling is allowed and you CAN sue the hell out of criminal online gambling operators!

Where the fuck you get this info? oh I forgot google scholar  Roll Eyes Go read the LAW, local/state/federal, go read the Department of Justice, go read the FBI, and not only read it but comprehend.  You are just talkin outta your ass Roll Eyes
I have this info from google laws, obviously  Wink

You skeak about US gambling laws and do not mention the relevant law? LMAO  Cheesy

Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006

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It is not allowed to send money to gambling sites, but the sender do not breach any US laws. It is the processor who breaches the laws. Roll Eyes
 
...................If you send money IT'S ILLEGAL If you receive money IT'S ILLEGAL, I'm guilty for paying a hooker and she/he is guilty for accepting it
Nice story bro, see above...  Roll Eyes

You would be for sure guilty, but there are a lot of jurisdictions in this world where it is allowed.


3) Even if you played illegal from one of the regulated states, you could sue criminal operators abroad, for example in Curacao

This is because a Curacao license allows to offer gambling worldwide, except in Curacao itself. You did not breach Curacao laws if you played from the USA, so please explain with content and facts why you could not sue a criminal operator in Curacao?

Again, see above.  In addition:  

No state/country/gov/etc gives a shit where/what another "allows". Drugs are allowed in Amsterdam THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED in US.  Learn (from your google scholar) that 1 countries laws means absolute shit to another country, esp USA.  US law trumps all, including "Curacao".  Your Doctor degree in Spain does NOT make you a Dr. in the US.
Correct. As Curacao gives not a shit what the US allows and not allows and as you sue the criminal gambling operator in Curacao, it does not play any role for the court in Curacao if you played illegal from one of the few regulated states in the US.


Now I will lastly add:

Anyone can file a form/sue anyone.  I can go to a court and file a suit against the hooker who ripped me off and even the drug dealer who screwed me.  It means NOTHING! It will be automatically dismissed and I just wasted my time and court fees.

Man you are nothing but noise  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
If prostitution and drug dealing is illegal in a certain jurisdiction, YES, it will be dismissed. But I explained to you several times that online gambling is legal in the licensing jurisdictions like Curacao, etc.. So according to your "logic" it will be dismissed even though legal, while in reality it will be not dismissed, because it is legal.  Roll Eyes

Agreed. I already realized that you are nothing but noise...

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August 24, 2016, 09:25:29 PM
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Today "legal expert" Xiaoxiao

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Came out of nowhere to attack my thread with something regarding Betcoin's license.

1) I'm a rakeback provider hence an affiliate; just like every player on this forum that has an account, which makes them an affiliate by default. His posts has little to do with me nor my service

2) The majority of gaming establishments operate unlicensed here which has its perks and downfalls

3) Whatever motive or company represented is likely a scam or useless.

No. It was not about Betcoin's non existing license

1) I informed you with my post in your thread that Betcoin is a publicly proven scam. And if you are an affiliate for a publicly proven scam, then my posts have very well to do with you or with your service.

Every player on this forum who has an account is affiliate for Betcoin by default  Huh

You have the same dumb lying style like your colleague cjmoles.

2) Correct. And what has this to do with my post in your thread that Betcoin is a publicly proven scam? Betcoin is a publicly proven scam, because they scammed and make false and misleading statements on their website and not because they have no license.  Roll Eyes

Another problem is that Betcoin hide the operator. Because if you have an issue, you can not go to a court to claim your rights. BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot is a good example for what the problem is if a criminal operator hide the identity!

3) Useless is already disproven, but please explain with content how it is likely a scam?

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August 24, 2016, 11:45:01 PM
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Beware! This guy is a public liar and an advertised thief!  Liar -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15775379#msg15775379

thief -> http://game-protect.com/

He is one of twitchyseal's recruits....be careful with this guy!

What's wrong with twitchyseal?

This one though. Sure doesn't look credible. The people questioning your credibility don't have to prove theirs. You on the other hand, do since you're offering a service in exchange for payments/use of your ref link. Moreover the way you answer their questions, leaves much to be desired. Very unprofessional, specially considering potential clients are reading your response about possible concerns, you're not defending yourself very well.

I regret that what I've said may offend you but I was curious about this service you provide so I read your thread, unfortunately you are currently lacking the credibility to back the kind of service you claim to offer. Anyway, I wish you good luck and hope that you find a way for your idea/service to work in the future.(if this isn't just another scam) Attacking the people who questions you with rude words and behavior isn't the way.
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