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So what ? I should stop participating in the forum now ?
Thanks for your permission to post, sir my good lord.

Again, my good lord sir gapmeprotedsfct thank you very very much for your authorization to partake in this forum. much appreciated Smiley



Can you also show the obvious proof of Game Protect being a scammer?
How can I extort money from victims?
you obviously had not the time to read it prior to placing your signature campaign post. Cheesy

Can you also show the obvious proof of me not reading the post ? And only posting to place my signature campaign post ?


And you also blackmail gambling services if they refuse to pay for a review on your website.
Game Protect does not publicise paid reviews from publicly proven scams on the Online gambling scams list.
That's how MAFIA CARTELS operate.
Do you speak about centralized or decentralized mafia cartels?

Because Game Protect is a cluster! Cheesy
Yeah, a decentralized mafia cluster made of only one person : yourself.


I read that post I replied to, my questions were legit. There was no link in OP. And it was unclear what they offered.
No, you asked for their service even though it is already stated in the OP. If you would have asked questions about their service, it would have been something else.
What did I do ? I asked two questions about their service.
1) If their service has a website ?
2) I asked for more precise informations about their offer, since it was vague. They aren't a poker website operator but just a gateway to get onto the asian poker networks.

It was unclear what they offered. Unlike your service, which clearly speaks for itself. (== ripping people off)

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I was curious why "Game Protect" denies being "Player Protection" on 2p2.  It's so strange, they have nearly identical names, speak with the exact same Russian-learned-English idiosyncrasies, and even have the same use of smilies.

Well it turns out that "Player Protection" was trying to scam Skrill out of a "five figure payment".

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/does-skrill-make-contradictory-statements-their-legally-binding-contract-1589116/

Here's a mod scolding him for getting out of line (and telling him he needed help understanding English...guess he still can't afford those advanced lessons):



People seem to find his posts pointless.  Also, "Collecting user data"Huh



"Spreading the same crazy for years with no results".  Is Monteroy seeing the future?



Not harmless?



Looks like "Player Protection" is offering $5,000 for a quote proving him wrong.  Sound familiar?











Guess he never made good on that offer. 

What a scammer!

But at least he's not trying to message members in private to steal more money from them after a tragedy...wait









After 4Q reported the scam private message to the admins...



Banned.

Guess they are the same person. 


For some more light reading, here's PFA discussing the scam Game Protect and how he got banned from that forum as well: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?14477-Should-Druff-Banhammer-Game-Protect-for-the-sake-of-PFA-and-its-members



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May 05, 2018, 01:59:20 PM
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Have you already opened Scam Accusations?

You haven't scammed me. I won't open a scam accusation thread.
However, your shady practices can be assimilated to scams.
You try to extort 2 BTC from a player to recover 6 of his BTC. And you ask that payment upfront. So what ? If you fail, you will refund the 2 BTC ?  Roll Eyes

I won't open a scam accusation since I don't have the time to go through all the garbage you're throwing on this forum.
That would take a full time job with a high wage, given the pain people take when reading your useless and insulting posts.

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May 05, 2018, 02:39:50 PM
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Have you already opened Scam Accusations?

You haven't scammed me. I won't open a scam accusation thread.
Did not know that DarkBrain is your alt account. But considering the nonsense and blatant lies you state about Game Protect, it could make sense.

However, my impression is that DarkBrain has unlike less brain cells in his head like you.

Thanks for demonstrating and confirming this theory. Smiley

However, your shady practices can be assimilated to scams.
Are you able to quote the shady practices?

Is the possibility of assimilation to scams the criminal offense of scam?

There : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1930596.msg36162209#msg36162209

You try to extort 2 BTC from a player to recover 6 of his BTC.
Where and how did I try to extort 2 BTC?

Definition extortion: Extortion is the crime of obtaining something from someone, especially money, by using force or threats.
Definition try :  to attempt to do or accomplish.
I never said it was successful.  Roll Eyes But trying to extort 2 BTC in exchange of some said services from a victim is disgusting.
YES, EXTORTION. "If you don't give me 2 BTC you won't see your 6 BTC." Booooh.

And you ask that payment upfront. So what ? If you fail, you will refund the 2 BTC ?  Roll Eyes
Depending on the case, Game Protect offers to assist victims based on a donation in advance.

Definition donation : an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
Since it's a necessity to provide said "donation" so you do your thing, why do you call it a donation and not a payment ?
This is not a donation. Being picky on words, heh ? We can too.

I won't open a scam accusation since I don't have the time to go through all the garbage you're throwing on this forum.
Your shit feedback is welcome, so I have something more to laugh. Cheesy

 Laugh at this then.  Cheesy

That would take a full time job with a high wage, given the pain people take when reading your useless and insulting posts.
Do you think a low level signature campaign spammer is able to get a high wage full time job?
At least I don't need to chase victims of scams to get more money out of their misery..

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people getting blocked from your shill site nitrogen and you say nothing? go and see everyone on their thread how silent game protect is, he does nothing cos they pay him!
you are a piece of work, fraud.
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May 05, 2018, 07:52:29 PM
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people getting blocked from your shill site nitrogen and you say nothing? go and see everyone on their thread how silent game protect is, he does nothing cos they pay him!
you are a piece of work, fraud.

Don't you get it? No one has sign up trough his "qualify free protection" so he is not obligated to help anyone   Roll Eyes

GP always like to say "quote me that law", but somehow he missed my question about donation.
Can you respond? I think one week is more that enough to find that info on your site and to answer.

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Why talk about GameProtect "scamming" other people?

game-protect.com shows some valid points.

From my experience:

Online casinos (e.g. Bitcasino.io) who claim to be "licensed" by Curaçao eGaming are not willing to hand out the no/JAZ license.

Instead of showing the original license they ask their customers to check the seal status, which is INVALID and can't be taken as proof for governmental licensing.

Secondly Curaçao eGaming is completely iresponsive.

Conclusion: Online casinos (e.g. Bitcasino.io) with no/JAZ license aren't able to show any proof of a valid license.


That's the main question to be asked imo.
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Why talk about GameProtect "scamming" other people?

game-protect.com shows some valid points.

From my experience:

Online casinos (e.g. Bitcasino.io) who claim to be "licensed" by Curaçao eGaming are not willing to hand out the no/JAZ license.

Instead of showing the original license they ask their customers to check the seal status, which is INVALID and can't be taken as proof for governmental licensing.

Secondly Curaçao eGaming is completely iresponsive.

Conclusion: Online casinos (e.g. Bitcasino.io) with no/JAZ license aren't able to show any proof of a valid license.


That's the main question to be asked imo.


And then he shills for sites that claim no license and dont show? hypocrite fraud
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May 06, 2018, 06:38:14 PM
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Have you already opened Scam Accusations?

You haven't scammed me. I won't open a scam accusation thread.
Did not know that DarkBrain is your alt account. But considering the nonsense and blatant lies you state about Game Protect, it could make sense.

However, my impression is that DarkBrain has unlike less brain cells in his head like you.

Thanks for demonstrating and confirming this theory. Smiley
Thanks for the hint. Smiley

Did not know that answering a question for DarkBrain is the infinite monkey theorem! Cheesy

If answering a question for DarkBrain is the infinite monkey theorem, what is it if a DarkBrain answers questions directly?

Why am I even trying to enlighten you ?

However, your shady practices can be assimilated to scams.
Are you able to quote the shady practices?

Is the possibility of assimilation to scams the criminal offense of scam?

There : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1930596.msg36162209#msg36162209
Asking the question if someone thinks anyone is actually dumb enough to send him 2BTC in advance so he gets 6BTC back from someone who scammed him is shady practice?

But it was iluvbitcoins who asked this question! So according to your brain wash theory, it is iluvbitcoins who committs shady practices. Roll Eyes

That was your own post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1930596.msg36030429#msg36030429
Having Alzheimer disease on top of the rest ? I blame you.  Roll Eyes

Yes. You asked 2 BTC in advance for a "service" that "promised" to return 6 BTC.
That is a fact. You did it and the environment is irrelevant.

You try to extort 2 BTC from a player to recover 6 of his BTC.
Where and how did I try to extort 2 BTC?

Definition extortion: Extortion is the crime of obtaining something from someone, especially money, by using force or threats.
Definition try :  to attempt to do or accomplish.
I never said it was successful.  Roll Eyes But trying to extort 2 BTC in exchange of some said services from a victim is disgusting.
YES, EXTORTION. "If you don't give me 2 BTC you won't see your 6 BTC." Booooh.
I asked you where I try?

If you try to extort someone for 2 BTC, you need to use the words 2 BTC, right? But I never used these words, so how could I try without using it?

Post quoted above. There you tried.
You quoted the 2 BTC offer and replied to it directly to it "sent in advance".
If the guy would have sent, what would have happened ? He would have lost 8 BTC.

And you ask that payment upfront. So what ? If you fail, you will refund the 2 BTC ?  Roll Eyes
Depending on the case, Game Protect offers to assist victims based on a donation in advance.

Definition donation : an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
Since it's a necessity to provide said "donation" so you do your thing, why do you call it a donation and not a payment ?
This is not a donation. Being picky on words, heh ? We can too.
Because it is an exchange of contributions. Exchanges of contributions are not payments. Wink
You should start learning English ..
An exchange of contributions is a commercial contract. This is not donating, A donation is "presenting something" either as a gift, or a grant, or a contribution.
There, he needs to "present something" in order for you to start doing whatever you do.

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Why talk about GameProtect "scamming" other people?

game-protect.com shows some valid points.

From my experience:

Online casinos (e.g. Bitcasino.io) who claim to be "licensed" by Curaçao eGaming are not willing to hand out the no/JAZ license.

Instead of showing the original license they ask their customers to check the seal status, which is INVALID and can't be taken as proof for governmental licensing.

Secondly Curaçao eGaming is completely iresponsive.

Conclusion: Online casinos (e.g. Bitcasino.io) with no/JAZ license aren't able to show any proof of a valid license.


That's the main question to be asked imo.


And then he shills for sites that claim no license and dont show? hypocrite fraud



The problem is that even representatives of Curaçao based online casinos are talking about GameProtect here.


Casinos operating without valid licenses are the reason why a service as GameProtect is even able to offer such services.

I think it's unimportant to talk about whether GP is a fraud or not. He mentions some big issues.
Go and ask Bitcasino.io or one of the no/JAZ licensed casinos for this license (claimed to be regulated by the government of Curaçao).

You'll recognize that the points mentioned by GP are valid.
The casinos won't hand out the license to their customers. Why? Ask yourself why a legal casino would hold back such an important document?

Got it?


Why going after GP if there are illicit operators of casinos who let customers deposit tons of money by faking the possession of the licences needed?





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The problem is that even representatives of Curaçao based online casinos are talking about GameProtect here.


Casinos operating without valid licenses are the reason why a service as GameProtect is even able to offer such services.

I think it's unimportant to talk about whether GP is a fraud or not. He mentions some big issues.
Go and ask Bitcasino.io or one of the no/JAZ licensed casinos for this license (claimed to be regulated by the government of Curaçao).

You'll recognize that the points mentioned by GP are valid.
The casinos won't hand out the license to their customers. Why? Ask yourself why a legal casino would hold back such an important document?

Got it?


Why going after GP if there are illicit operators of casinos who let customers deposit tons of money by faking the possession of the licences needed?


I just couldn't resist logging in to say this - so this new account only hast 2 posts and both are defending game-protect  Grin Roll Eyes , that's hilarious, and I find it ironic someone named game-protect has -32 rep on the forum  Grin -- so far seems like this is some idiot from a 3rd world trying to extort casinos to make BTC to fuel his gambling addiction, pretty sad tbh! , I hope no casino, or someone who was legitimately scammed by a casino, falls for this guy's scam attempts, keep yourself safe, I hope the bitcointalk forum moderation team looks into this.

Get a real job, licenses aren't required to operate casinos, if a casino wants to rob their users they will one way or another.
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extorts casinos for not having a license while advertising sites which don't have licenses themselves and operate in banned jurisdictions
-32 rep
reputated people call him out all the time
charges 20% fees for extortion upfront
banned from other forums
makes alt accounts to defend himself
terrible English so he definitely lives in a 3rd world, claims to know first world laws when he OBVIOUSLY doesn't know anything about laws
anonymous
advertises referral codes
ask casinos to pay for a review
trying to add a dice widget on his site

...this account should be a parody at this point Roll Eyes Grin because his motives are VERY obvious.

until this person doesn't reveal his identity and stops advertising referral codes or asking for a cut in his "cases" (which btw all he does is spam in the casino's thread), he should not be taken seriously whatsoever, his statements and behavior contradict each other  Roll Eyes

my 2 cents

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The problem is that even representatives of Curaçao based online casinos are talking about GameProtect here.


Casinos operating without valid licenses are the reason why a service as GameProtect is even able to offer such services.

I think it's unimportant to talk about whether GP is a fraud or not. He mentions some big issues.
Go and ask Bitcasino.io or one of the no/JAZ licensed casinos for this license (claimed to be regulated by the government of Curaçao).

You'll recognize that the points mentioned by GP are valid.
The casinos won't hand out the license to their customers. Why? Ask yourself why a legal casino would hold back such an important document?

Got it?


Why going after GP if there are illicit operators of casinos who let customers deposit tons of money by faking the possession of the licences needed?

Usually, a consumer protection service is a good thing.
Except when it is ran like a mafia cartel and in fact making it more difficult for victims to recover their stuck money.
This is why I think gp has a neat idea, but by being a complete baboon, he completely wastes it.

Have you already opened Scam Accusations?

You haven't scammed me. I won't open a scam accusation thread.
Did not know that DarkBrain is your alt account. But considering the nonsense and blatant lies you state about Game Protect, it could make sense.

However, my impression is that DarkBrain has unlike less brain cells in his head like you.

Thanks for demonstrating and confirming this theory. Smiley
Thanks for the hint. Smiley

Did not know that answering a question for DarkBrain is the infinite monkey theorem! Cheesy

If answering a question for DarkBrain is the infinite monkey theorem, what is it if a DarkBrain answers questions directly?

Why am I even trying to enlighten you ?

However, your shady practices can be assimilated to scams.
Are you able to quote the shady practices?

Is the possibility of assimilation to scams the criminal offense of scam?

There : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1930596.msg36162209#msg36162209
Asking the question if someone thinks anyone is actually dumb enough to send him 2BTC in advance so he gets 6BTC back from someone who scammed him is shady practice?

But it was iluvbitcoins who asked this question! So according to your brain wash theory, it is iluvbitcoins who committs shady practices. Roll Eyes

That was your own post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1930596.msg36030429#msg36030429
Having Alzheimer disease on top of the rest ? I blame you.  Roll Eyes

Yes. You asked 2 BTC in advance for a "service" that "promised" to return 6 BTC.
That is a fact. You did it and the environment is irrelevant.

You try to extort 2 BTC from a player to recover 6 of his BTC.
Where and how did I try to extort 2 BTC?

Definition extortion: Extortion is the crime of obtaining something from someone, especially money, by using force or threats.
Definition try :  to attempt to do or accomplish.
I never said it was successful.  Roll Eyes But trying to extort 2 BTC in exchange of some said services from a victim is disgusting.
YES, EXTORTION. "If you don't give me 2 BTC you won't see your 6 BTC." Booooh.
I asked you where I try?

If you try to extort someone for 2 BTC, you need to use the words 2 BTC, right? But I never used these words, so how could I try without using it?

Post quoted above. There you tried.
You quoted the 2 BTC offer and replied to it directly to it "sent in advance".
If the guy would have sent, what would have happened ? He would have lost 8 BTC.

And you ask that payment upfront. So what ? If you fail, you will refund the 2 BTC ?  Roll Eyes
Depending on the case, Game Protect offers to assist victims based on a donation in advance.

Definition donation : an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
Since it's a necessity to provide said "donation" so you do your thing, why do you call it a donation and not a payment ?
This is not a donation. Being picky on words, heh ? We can too.
Because it is an exchange of contributions. Exchanges of contributions are not payments. Wink
You should start learning English ..
An exchange of contributions is a commercial contract. This is not donating, A donation is "presenting something" either as a gift, or a grant, or a contribution.
There, he needs to "present something" in order for you to start doing whatever you do.
Address this, extortionist.

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extorts casinos for not having a license while advertising sites which don't have licenses themselves and operate in banned jurisdictions
   proof: everywhere on this forum + his website

-32 rep + reputated people call him out all the time

  proof: check references on this guy's trust, RHavar a reputated member of the community who has ran bustabit, called him out, he has handled way more money than this noname 3rd world pos can even fathom

charges 20% fees for extortion upfront

 proof: all over the forum

banned from other forums

 proof: in this thread, go back a few pages

makes alt accounts to defend himself

  proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2090075;sa=showPosts

terrible English so he definitely lives in a 3rd world, claims to know first world laws when he OBVIOUSLY doesn't know anything about laws

  proof: self explanatory, check the reply above, mr 3rd world lacking any sort of comprehension skills falls for it, cant even form a sentence properly

anonymous, claims to be a cluster

 bitcointalk ip logs show they originated from a single country on a dynamic ip Roll Eyes  Grin

advertises referral codes

 pretty obvious motive, trying to make a few $ by trolling

ask casinos to pay for a review

 again proof in this thread

trying to add a dice widget on his site
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168251.msg32828044#msg32828044
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168251.msg36476018#msg36476018


edit to summarize everything, dont take anything he says seriously or you'll fall for his scam, it's pretty hilarious how a guy from turkey thinks he knows ANYTHING about international gambling laws and regulations, cryptocurrencies or state level laws, his knowledge is based off google that's why we can catch him contradicting himself on several occasions without even him realizing it, if you take 5 minutes to read his post history you'll realize how clueless he is, but don't bother telling him exactly what's wrong, let him stay ignorant.  Grin
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to summarize everything, it's pretty hilarious how a guy from turkey thinks he knows ANYTHING about laws and regulations, if you take 5 minutes to read his post history you'll realize how clueless he is, but don't bother telling him exactly what's wrong, let him stay ignorant.  Grin

Funny also how he knowingly ignore the BLATANT TRUTH when spoken out.

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Funny also how he knowingly ignore the BLATANT TRUTH when spoken out.
Scroll back 20-25 pages. History repeats itself.
extorts casinos for not having a license while advertising sites which don't have licenses themselves and operate in banned jurisdictions
GP is bashing and advertising them at the same time, although he doesn't think these affiliate links and banners are advertising.
charges 20% fees for extortion upfront
Donations!  Roll Eyes
terrible English so he definitely lives in a 3rd world, claims to know first world laws when he OBVIOUSLY doesn't know anything about laws
anonymous
Hey, what? Use google sometimes.
advertises referral codes
That is what this service is. Bunch of referral links, GP is chasing referrals and trying to extort victims.

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May 10, 2018, 08:41:00 PM
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Also, if you care about the laws of your country as you claim, why do you commit the criminal offense of tax evasion for the payments of your blatant lies and nonsense posts?
I think you can find information about donations somewhere in croatian board. Don't worry about me, I pay tax.

Anyway, we were discussing something about bitcoinpenguin(or at least I think we were) and posts are removed so I'll re-post here
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They were licensed in Costa Rica but their license can't be found on site.
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Any proof?

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Not really because I can't find their Costa Rica license, but googling it everyone are promoting them as casino licensed in Costa Rica, including askgamblers, so probably in the past they were licensed in costa rica. I've sent them email they say they will investigate.
Anyway, I have found in ToS that they are licensed in Belize, but couldn't find license - and they refused to provide license number.
Proof that they were licensed or proof that their license can't be found on site? I thought license should be somewhere in main page or at least in tos  Undecided

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May 10, 2018, 09:24:28 PM
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Do you want to know what schizophren is?

marlboroza himself does not answer my questions, but at the same time complains that I do not answer his questions! Roll Eyes

GP always like to say "quote me that law", but somehow he missed my question about donation.
Can you respond? I think one week is more that enough to find that info on your site and to answer.

Quote the laws of your country where it requires to know the name of the receiver of a donation?

Also, if you care about the laws of your country as you claim, why do you commit the criminal offense of tax evasion for the payments of your blatant lies and nonsense posts?

@game protect I want to send you donation but by my country laws I need to know information about person to who I am sending donation, and I couldn't find that information on your site, can you point me where to look at?
Do you think that marlboroza has mental problems?
What about you, are you mentally healthy?

Laws about name of the donation receiver? Hmm, what about to quote that marlboroza if that exists? But hey man, are you really going to donate anything?

Well, it's your job.....
But please tell me, have you ever helped someone to get his money? Don't tell me to search in this thread, just give me links of posts.

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Last edit: May 11, 2018, 01:03:00 PM by marlboroza
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What about you, are you mentally healthy?
Honestly, I think he is very smart guy and he knows exactly what he is doing.
Laws about name of the donation receiver? Hmm, what about to quote that marlboroza if that exists?
Copied from his site:

How can I qualify for your online gaming consumer protection service?
A) Simply register your online Casino, Poker or Sports Betting account with any operator below:
B) If you ignored A) you still can use our assistance service if you donate 5% of your claim in advance.

https://i.imgur.com/b2raTqf.png

Do you get it? Donations  Grin

But hey man, are you really going to donate anything?
You do realize this isn't donation, right?
But please tell me, have you ever helped someone to get his money? Don't tell me to search in this thread, just give me links of posts.
Don't mind me answering to question addressed to GP, but you should really read whole thread.

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May 10, 2018, 11:40:20 PM
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What about you, are you mentally healthy?
Honestly, I think he is very smart guy and he knows exactly what he is doing.
Laws about name of the donation receiver? Hmm, what about to quote that marlboroza if that exists?
Copied from his site:

How can I qualify for your online gaming consumer protection service?
A) Simply register your online Casino, Poker or Sports Betting account with any operator below:
B) If you ignored A) you still can use our assistance service if you donate 5% of your claim in advance.

https://i.imgur.com/b2raTqf.png

Do you get it? Donations  Grin

But hey man, are you really going to donate anything?
You do realize this isn't donation, right?
But please tell me, have you ever helped someone to get his money? Don't tell me to search in this thread, just give me links of posts.
Don't mind me answering to question directed to GP, but you should really read whole thread.
Won't quote step by step.
Well, can't say much about his smartness because the service he offers is just a waste of time, no one uses his "protection" and still continues to support it (isn't he tired after all?).
Of course I know it's not a "donation" but I would waste satoshi and not pay single one on his adress (don't want to be the only person in this world who donated in this project).
Reading of whole thread will take a time, I have read some pages and as I know no one has ever used it and no one's money was returned nor asked to GP for help in return.

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