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August 16, 2018, 02:46:57 PM
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Moira sorry to hear about what your family has gone through, i hope you get it all fixed soon.

Id say to post a complaint to Ask Gamblers if you are not receiving a response from Fortune Jack

https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/fortunejack-casino-review/

They mediate between players and casinos to try and fix situations like this

Be careful of Game-Portect guy as he has some very negative trust and has been accused of scamming victims and extortion on here

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August 16, 2018, 06:45:11 PM
Merited by Initscri (1)
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Do you guys actually believe this poster?  "My sister"  Grin

Of all the possible places this person could have told their sob story  Cry Cry Cry Cry, they choose to post in a game-protect thread?
LMAO

It's a good thing they included the proper annunciation of Curaçao  Roll Eyes

<3  Huh

This is clearly an attempt to derail the cyber legal owning that Initscri just put on game-protect.

I thought this was more than obvious; as this poster conveniently chimed in after Initscri owned game-protect


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August 16, 2018, 07:25:31 PM
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Yep, exactly my point  Grin Wink

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Last edit: August 18, 2018, 04:41:30 AM by Initscri
Merited by SimplyRouge2 (1)
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He's financially incentivized to make claims against casino's whether or whether not there's wrong doings.
Game Protect nowhere states it is a free ride service, but 99% of the victims who deposited to random casinos and got scammed think it is! Cheesy

Do you suggest GP calls out criminal offenses while no criminal offenses happened?

Are you able to give examples with proof?


His process:
Step 1: Create a website w/ referral links to a few casino's w/ profitable referral programs, listing them as "good" casinos.
The casinos on the GP website are listed as "Qualify free" and not as good.


Step 2: Attempt to discredit any casino's that aren't within that list, providing a hyperlink to said website as "proof".
The only proof GP has is a hyperlink? Cheesy Shit, we will lose all cases and will get sued for defamation! Roll Eyes


Step 3: Defend any casino's on that "good" list, and offer to lay claims against any of the "bad" casino's receiving a 30/70 split.
Where did GP defend a casino on the"good" list that scammed one of our customers?


Step 4: Profit off referral traffic & any claim payouts that may be received.
Where is the accounting to back your profit claim?

How can you run profitable if 99% of the brain washed victims consider GP as a free ride service?


He'll never stop unless there's personal accountability on his end, or until a ban is administered.
Accountability for what?


He keeps his info private on purpose,
You keep your info also private on purpose!


and takes advantage of those who have actually had bad casino experiences.
What exactly is my advantage?


Take a look at his post history, and see the casino's he bashes/defends.
Yes, please take a look at my post history to get an impression of how criminal online casinos blatant lie and try to mislead the online gambling community.


I'm all for casino accountability (and business accountability in general); but this is just a pure lack of integrity on his part for his own financial gain.
Pure lack of integrity is claiming you are all for casino accountability while you promote the publicly proven Sportsbet scam for your own financial benefit!

You are either schizophrenic or blatant lying! Cheesy


He serves no purpose to this community, what-so-ever.
Warning about criminal casino operators and assisting to get 70% of the scammed amount back serves no purpose to this community whatsoever?

You are either schizophrenic or blatant lying! Cheesy

I posted this in another thread; maybe you should respond there instead of bumping your own thread...

He's financially incentivized to make claims against casino's whether or whether not there's wrong doings.
Game Protect nowhere states it is a free ride service, but 99% of the victims who deposited to random casinos and got scammed think it is! Cheesy

Do you suggest GP calls out criminal offenses while no criminal offenses happened?

Are you able to give examples with proof?

No, actually I haven't stated that ALL of your claims are invalid; I'm sure you have made valid claims in the past. I'm suggesting the way you go about claims (not providing evidence/proof, more of a slanderous approach) is difficult to agree with. Also, for many of your accusations, the evidence is iffy.

The only proof GP has is a hyperlink? Cheesy Shit, we will lose all cases and will get sued for defamation! Roll Eyes

I'm suggesting you post a link to your website to gain traffic (leading people to proof where there is none).

Where did GP defend a casino on the"good" list that scammed one of our customers?

https://i.imgur.com/uEkcpOI.png (Bash Bash Promote; funny)
https://i.imgur.com/SP1e7AA.png (Makes more sense now)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4860862.msg43886922#msg43886922
This ^ pretty much just says it all. You make accusations against casino's for being "unlicensed"; yet promote "unlicensed" casino's yourself. Should I be you and say "criminal offence" much?

You produce revenue from GP; I gladly recommend you suggest you're a non-profit if you don't (and provide proof of that). But not too long ago, you gave the following interview suggesting you make $300/m (https://bitcoin-millionaire.com/business-gameprotect/)

Finally; once again, I can't believe I have to say this: Just because I have a forum signature w/ a PAID advertisement doesn't mean I endorse nor promote SportsBet.IO. Plus; it's not a "proven" scam as you have mentioned. I've read your article, and I don't believe your claims are substantiated.

Also, man, stop with the mental illness bashing. Do you have a problem with people who are Schizophrenic?

I wasn't going to post on this thread anymore, as you're obviously just using this as publicity to shamefully bump your own thread.

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August 18, 2018, 06:41:00 AM
Merited by marlboroza (1)
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How many people feel if game protect got laid on a regular basis it would be happier in life, rather than so miserable and constantly whining about everything?

I propose we start a collection fund to at least send it a dildo and a a bottle of KY jelly.  Anyone interested in contributing to this fund?

Ahh, game protect needs to get a life and stop opening all these threads and alt accounts.  I'm so tired of reading this morons utter nonsense.



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August 18, 2018, 04:47:52 PM
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I posted this in another thread; maybe you should respond there instead of bumping your own thread...
You posted your story about Game Protect in the Bitcasino.io - LIES, LIES & LIES * Uncensored thread

Are you suggesting that Game Protect is part of the bitcasino.io fraud scheme or why do you not post your story about Game Protect in our thread?

He's financially incentivized to make claims against casino's whether or whether not there's wrong doings.
Game Protect nowhere states it is a free ride service, but 99% of the victims who deposited to random casinos and got scammed think it is! Cheesy

Do you suggest GP calls out criminal offenses while no criminal offenses happened?

Are you able to give examples with proof?

No, actually I haven't stated that ALL of your claims are invalid; I'm sure you have made valid claims in the past. I'm suggesting the way you go about claims (not providing evidence/proof, more of a slanderous approach) is difficult to agree with. Also, for many of your accusations, the evidence is iffy.
As everyone can see, I did not say that you have stated ALL of my claims are invalid!

But I ask you to give examples with proof? Are you not able to understand this question?


The only proof GP has is a hyperlink? Cheesy Shit, we will lose all cases and will get sued for defamation! Roll Eyes

I'm suggesting you post a link to your website to gain traffic (leading people to proof where there is none).
You are suggesting that the GP website does not contain proof?

Do you also know why hundreds of victims submitted proof of their scams although the website does not contain proof of its statements?


Where did GP defend a casino on the"good" list that scammed one of our customers?

BitcoinRush https://i.imgur.com/uEkcpOI.png (Bash Bash Promote; funny)
BitcoinRush https://i.imgur.com/SP1e7AA.png (Makes more sense now)
BitcoinRush did not scam any of our customers!

You are not able to answer my questions, instead you continue posting blatant lies and nonsense from your separate fantasy dream world! Cheesy


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4860862.msg43886922#msg43886922
This ^ pretty much just says it all. You make accusations against casino's for being "unlicensed"; yet promote "unlicensed" casino's yourself. Should I be you and say "criminal offence" much?
The publicly proven bitcasino and sportsbet scam commit the criminal offense of fraud by false representation with false and misleading claiming it has a license and I inform the signature campaign promoters and the gambking community that this is not the case!

You criticizing my warning says all about your criminal character!

Yes, I was responding to a response from another member; that's how a forum works...

Honestly, at this point, you just keep spinning my words as if it's some sort of conspiracy against you. You fail to answer any of my questions, instead trying to misdirect the conversation. You didn't answer how it's any different than the casino's you promote that are unregulated.

We're going to keep going in circles here, with you constantly making outlandish claims that I'm a "criminal", in an attempt to defend your shady business practices.

"As everyone can see"; you're simply a sham.

Ahh, game protect needs to get a life and stop opening all these threads and alt accounts.  I'm so tired of reading this morons utter nonsense.

Can't agree more!

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August 19, 2018, 04:18:07 AM
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We're going to keep going in circles here, with you constantly making outlandish claims that I'm a "criminal", in an attempt to defend your shady business practices.
This is exactly what mentally ill people are doing!

They circle around in their separate fantasy dream world and are not able to answer questions related to the real world!

Everyone can imagine how shitty a casino must be that pays people like you for representing them! Roll Eyes



I'm really confused, you just suggested that you have mental problems? I was speaking about you, not me (and I wouldn't use that slur btw)... Like really man, I'd recommend you give some respect to the mentally ill instead of using them as a punch line. It's quite annoying and distasteful.

I'm pretty sure the only "everyone" is you. Have you looked at your rep? You act as if you have a large following/massive support on this forum. Also, i don't represent the casino, I've only said that about 1000x times already.

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August 19, 2018, 05:09:10 AM
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I can't believe you're actually serious with what you just posted...

"Flawless rep": Really... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254
"Are you able to quote examples where I use mentally ill people as a punch line?": Yea, read up. You've literally used mental illness slurs as you've responded to me for the last while.

You actually don't answer questions, and ignore anything too difficult for you to answer. I'll be no longer responding, giving you a platform is a mistake.

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August 22, 2018, 11:25:15 AM
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Game Protect is looking for investigative experts, do you have the skills?

If yes, please explain why and what fraud schemes you have already uncovered?

What is the process for new casinos to get accepted by Game Protect?

Would be cool if you had details of that on your site (unless I missed it).

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August 27, 2018, 02:58:07 AM
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@ Initscri

Can you explain with your own words what my rep is?

Rep, as in reputation AKA trust...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

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August 27, 2018, 04:27:15 AM
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@ Initscri

Can you explain with your own words what my rep is?

Rep, as in reputation AKA trust...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254
Can you explain with your own words what my reputation AKA trust is and why? Not linking to a collection of blatant lies and nonsense! Roll Eyes



I did explain with my own words.

The general consensus of this forum, according to the trust system therein, is that you are an unsatisfactory member who lies, deceits and otherwise bullies/blackmails your way so as to create buzz for your website.

You can't claim the trust system as a "collection of blatant lies and nonsense" when you yourself use this forum & leverage the trust system to launch attacks on those you have odds against for your own financial gain. And don't say you don't, because if so, you wouldn't leave hyperlinks in the negative trusts you give out linking to your own for-profit website.

If you think the trust system is invalid, I welcome you to remove all negative trust for other members that you have sent out.
It's not like you have 1-2 negative, rep, you have a score of -128.

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August 28, 2018, 07:06:34 PM
Last edit: August 28, 2018, 07:53:20 PM by micromen
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a non-existing trust system!

I added a trust system


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August 29, 2018, 05:11:47 AM
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A system where everyone can post any kind of blatant lies and nonsense about others has nothing to do with trust.

In some cases and where claims are proven it can be used as a trust reference, in most cases not, as feedbacks are not moderated!

You can add and delete people from your trust list, so only claims/beliefs/opinions from people you trust show up under trusted feedback. You yourself can moderate how feedback is shown to you, and so can everybody else.
Just like in real life you can make your own judgement based on what people say about other people, you can choose to believe them or not.

Just like in real life you yourself make a personal judgement based on the information available to you. Not all that information will be true, not everything can be proven. You weigh everything based on your interpretation of things.

People with a good reputation their voice will be shown more, like in a newspaper or on the television. And here that is the default trust, it may be the first information available, but that doesn't mean other people don't have a voice.

You are free to believe that's not a trust system, but to me that really sounds like a system based on trust (AKA trust system.


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August 30, 2018, 03:20:44 AM
Last edit: August 30, 2018, 03:16:07 PM by Initscri
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A system where everyone can post any kind of blatant lies and nonsense about others has nothing to do with trust.

In some cases and where claims are proven it can be used as a trust reference, in most cases not, as feedbacks are not moderated!

You can add and delete people from your trust list, so only claims/beliefs/opinions from people you trust show up under trusted feedback. You yourself can moderate how feedback is shown to you, and so can everybody else.
Just like in real life you can make your own judgement based on what people say about other people, you can choose to believe them or not.

Just like in real life you yourself make a personal judgement based on the information available to you. Not all that information will be true, not everything can be proven. You weigh everything based on your interpretation of things.

People with a good reputation their voice will be shown more, like in a newspaper or on the television. And here that is the default trust, it may be the first information available, but that doesn't mean other people don't have a voice.

You are free to believe that's not a trust system, but to me that really sounds like a system based on trust (AKA trust system.
As far as I understood, negative feedback by DT 2 members is shown by default.

Yes, in the real world it could be handled like you described, but here is not the real world! People see for example -32 without even reading the feedbacks and then claim I am untrustworty or a scammer. This has nothing to do with a trust system and is misused as a defamation system!

But yet, like mentioned, you use that same system to launch attacks against your adversaries.

If it was 1-2 people recognizing you as a bad member, I'd understand how that can be disputable.
But you have many members of BitcoinTalk recognizing you as a deceitful member, including members who have earned their position of being DT.

You can't really bash a system that YOU yourself use against others.

Where is dumb brain washer Initscri?

Did anyone fall into his trap?

Aw, glad you missed me Smiley

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September 03, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
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You yourself choose what and who to believe, everybody can decide for themselves who they trust.

Can you give an example of a moderated trust system where nobody has absolute power and there is no room for abuse / power mismanagement?

The trust system might not be perfect, but it's the best working thing we got. In my opinion it works great. If you have an idea on how to improve it, feel free to share it.


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September 03, 2018, 07:49:34 PM
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You yourself choose what and who to believe, everybody can decide for themselves who they trust.

Can you give an example of a moderated trust system where nobody has absolute power and there is no room for abuse / power mismanagement?

The trust system might not be perfect, but it's the best working thing we got. In my opinion it works great. If you have an idea on how to improve it, feel free to share it.

It's only inconvenient for him because he's actually being negatively tagged.

The only people who hate trust systems, are those who are negatively affected by trust systems (scammers, frauds, etc)

@Game-protect: DT is default trust, as in the members have been promoted to DT by mods for the belief that they are good, trustworthy members & don't abuse the trust system. You can modify this list yourself and remove certain members if you don't agree with them. The entire trust system is supposed to be taken at your own discretion.

But yes, it's kind of indisputable that you have negative rep when a large amount of the community has come to consensus that you are a untrustworthy member. You simply have pissed people off by ruining people's trust on this forum with bold claims that you cant backup.

Calling people criminals when they haven't done anything to suggest crime is defamation. You must have substantiated proof to backup those claims, and no, running signature ads (advertising) is once again, NOT supporting a specific company. Otherwise, you might as well get off any forum that runs ads.

Also, posting to a blog post w/ claims that are disputable is not proof. You're not a lawyer, you've failed to provide any evidence that you have legitimate lawyers backing up your site, so please don't make criminality claims.

You've stooped so low that you add your links as source on Wikipedia articles: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilotto (see sources)

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We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.

I now have to say that you are a blatant liar.  I generally read your posts and laugh that someone can waste his/her life the way you do, thinking that people actually care about what you say...  But when I read you saying blatant lies, that anyone that has any understanding of internet analytics can prove to be absolute bullshit I must call "BULLSHIT".

You claim that 10-15% of your traffic comes from this forum is a laugh.  

You have an average of 5900 visitors to your site per month over the past 3 months (not unique, thats total) your webshield account (login) accounts for nearly 10% of those; thats just sad, 71.05% of your referrals are from this forum.  Your bounce rate is 53.13% and most people view less than 2 pages with an average visit duration of less than 2 minutes, considering you make up 10% of your own traffic thats just even sadder.

The real interesting one is, that you get alot of your traffic from www.profitaccumulator.co.uk, that is a free bet scam site from the United Kingdom run by Sam Stoffel and his boys.  These boys are true scammers!  Whats your association with them??  Are you Sam Stoffel?? Are you part of the profitaccumulator SCAM network??

Of further interest is that 5.5% of your exit traffic goes to betking.io, I think the readers would be interested to read that.  

All of this information can be researched here https://pro.similarweb.com/#/website/worldwide-overview/game-protect.com/*/999/3m?webSource=Total

You are a liar a cheat and generally a very disturbed individual.  I admit that some of my motivation for writing this is to see what bullshit you can come up with!

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Knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense in most countries in this world.

I have a conundrum.......   If in one forum thread you are claiming betking.io is a scam and in another thread you are claiming that knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense and your analytics says that you send 5% of your exit traffic to betking.io, what does that make you?

Im guessing confused, delusional and a problem gambler with a grudge.

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@Initscri "You're not a lawyer"    @game-protect  "How do you know?"

Because your arguments are incoherent and nonsensical.  You make unsubstantiated claims and last but definitely not least you give away free advice, thats something a lawyer would never do!  Further to that, you said in one of your other threads that you were not a lawyer, rather that you employed lawyers....    What a tool!!   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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No wait, my nationality is Swedish and I of course wrote this article to place my link! Cheesy

1. You didn't write the entire article on Wikipedia (you simply linked within it). Also, awesome, the IP which posted the link on Wikipedia "80.252.219.190" is Swedish, so that is in-fact you then. Sources on wikipedia are supposed to be unbiased BTW, just saying. Yet again, another system you abuse for backlinks to your site. (https://archive.is/lb3gf)
2. If you're a lawyer, prove it. Post something w/ accreditation to suggest you actually have a law background and that you're not just parading around pretending to be one.

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We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.

I now have to say that you are a blatant liar.  I generally read your posts and laugh that someone can waste his/her life the way you do, thinking that people actually care about what you say...  But when I read you saying blatant lies, that anyone that has any understanding of internet analytics can prove to be absolute bullshit I must call "BULLSHIT".

You claim that 10-15% of your traffic comes from this forum is a laugh.

71.05% of your referrals are from this forum.
Mentally ill nonsense shit is always welcome! Cheesy

Yesterday, 12 out of 103 visits = 12% are from bitcointalk

https://imgur.com/a/hLDbeob

Oh man, you must really hate mentally ill people.

Just because today's average doesn't match up, doesn't mean that on a month/yearly basis what $simple$simon reported isn't true...

Care to show us a larger range than a day?

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September 05, 2018, 01:33:47 AM
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What I like best is that he doesnt address any real issues.

I ask:

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The real interesting one is, that you get alot of your traffic from www.profitaccumulator.co.uk, that is a free bet scam site from the United Kingdom run by Sam Stoffel and his boys.  These boys are true scammers!  Whats your association with them??  Are you Sam Stoffel?? Are you part of the profitaccumulator SCAM network??

He doesnt even address it.  For a person who dribbles on with so much verbal diarrhea when someone asks a question that he doesnt like, then deafening silence is what the forum receives.

Further I ask:

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I have a conundrum.......   If in one forum thread you are claiming betking.io is a scam and in another thread you are claiming that knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense and your analytics says that you send 5% of your exit traffic to betking.io, what does that make you?

and all we get is a mute!

And for the record I concur stop using mental illness as a derogatory term.  It shows the immaturity of the individual!!!!

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