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August 29, 2018, 05:11:47 AM
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A system where everyone can post any kind of blatant lies and nonsense about others has nothing to do with trust.

In some cases and where claims are proven it can be used as a trust reference, in most cases not, as feedbacks are not moderated!

You can add and delete people from your trust list, so only claims/beliefs/opinions from people you trust show up under trusted feedback. You yourself can moderate how feedback is shown to you, and so can everybody else.
Just like in real life you can make your own judgement based on what people say about other people, you can choose to believe them or not.

Just like in real life you yourself make a personal judgement based on the information available to you. Not all that information will be true, not everything can be proven. You weigh everything based on your interpretation of things.

People with a good reputation their voice will be shown more, like in a newspaper or on the television. And here that is the default trust, it may be the first information available, but that doesn't mean other people don't have a voice.

You are free to believe that's not a trust system, but to me that really sounds like a system based on trust (AKA trust system.


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August 29, 2018, 08:49:27 PM
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A system where everyone can post any kind of blatant lies and nonsense about others has nothing to do with trust.

In some cases and where claims are proven it can be used as a trust reference, in most cases not, as feedbacks are not moderated!

You can add and delete people from your trust list, so only claims/beliefs/opinions from people you trust show up under trusted feedback. You yourself can moderate how feedback is shown to you, and so can everybody else.
Just like in real life you can make your own judgement based on what people say about other people, you can choose to believe them or not.

Just like in real life you yourself make a personal judgement based on the information available to you. Not all that information will be true, not everything can be proven. You weigh everything based on your interpretation of things.

People with a good reputation their voice will be shown more, like in a newspaper or on the television. And here that is the default trust, it may be the first information available, but that doesn't mean other people don't have a voice.

You are free to believe that's not a trust system, but to me that really sounds like a system based on trust (AKA trust system.
As far as I understood, negative feedback by DT 2 members is shown by default.

Yes, in the real world it could be handled like you described, but here is not the real world! People see for example -32 without even reading the feedbacks and then claim I am untrustworty or a scammer. This has nothing to do with a trust system and is misused as a defamation system!

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August 30, 2018, 03:20:44 AM
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A system where everyone can post any kind of blatant lies and nonsense about others has nothing to do with trust.

In some cases and where claims are proven it can be used as a trust reference, in most cases not, as feedbacks are not moderated!

You can add and delete people from your trust list, so only claims/beliefs/opinions from people you trust show up under trusted feedback. You yourself can moderate how feedback is shown to you, and so can everybody else.
Just like in real life you can make your own judgement based on what people say about other people, you can choose to believe them or not.

Just like in real life you yourself make a personal judgement based on the information available to you. Not all that information will be true, not everything can be proven. You weigh everything based on your interpretation of things.

People with a good reputation their voice will be shown more, like in a newspaper or on the television. And here that is the default trust, it may be the first information available, but that doesn't mean other people don't have a voice.

You are free to believe that's not a trust system, but to me that really sounds like a system based on trust (AKA trust system.
As far as I understood, negative feedback by DT 2 members is shown by default.

Yes, in the real world it could be handled like you described, but here is not the real world! People see for example -32 without even reading the feedbacks and then claim I am untrustworty or a scammer. This has nothing to do with a trust system and is misused as a defamation system!

But yet, like mentioned, you use that same system to launch attacks against your adversaries.

If it was 1-2 people recognizing you as a bad member, I'd understand how that can be disputable.
But you have many members of BitcoinTalk recognizing you as a deceitful member, including members who have earned their position of being DT.

You can't really bash a system that YOU yourself use against others.

Where is dumb brain washer Initscri?

Did anyone fall into his trap?

Aw, glad you missed me Smiley

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September 03, 2018, 03:03:46 PM
 #984

A system where everyone can post any kind of blatant lies and nonsense about others has nothing to do with trust.

In some cases and where claims are proven it can be used as a trust reference, in most cases not, as feedbacks are not moderated!

You can add and delete people from your trust list, so only claims/beliefs/opinions from people you trust show up under trusted feedback. You yourself can moderate how feedback is shown to you, and so can everybody else.
Just like in real life you can make your own judgement based on what people say about other people, you can choose to believe them or not.

Just like in real life you yourself make a personal judgement based on the information available to you. Not all that information will be true, not everything can be proven. You weigh everything based on your interpretation of things.

People with a good reputation their voice will be shown more, like in a newspaper or on the television. And here that is the default trust, it may be the first information available, but that doesn't mean other people don't have a voice.

You are free to believe that's not a trust system, but to me that really sounds like a system based on trust (AKA trust system.
As far as I understood, negative feedback by DT 2 members is shown by default.

Yes, in the real world it could be handled like you described, but here is not the real world! People see for example -32 without even reading the feedbacks and then claim I am untrustworty or a scammer. This has nothing to do with a trust system and is misused as a defamation system!

But yet, like mentioned, you use that same system to launch attacks against your adversaries.
Yes, I use the feedback system to give feedback. Wink


If it was 1-2 people recognizing you as a bad member, I'd understand how that can be disputable.
But you have many members of BitcoinTalk recognizing you as a deceitful member, including members who have earned their position of being DT.
It is not my fault that I have to call out so many criminals!

The more criminals you call out, the more criminals do not like you! Wink

How can you become DT 2 and what does it mean?

I have several blatant lies from DT 2 members in my feedback section, so it surely does not mean DT 2 = saying the truth! Cheesy


You can't really bash a system that YOU yourself use against others.
I do not bash it, I just inform that it is not a trust system, because it is not moderated and the system does not diversify between blatant lies and nonsense and justifiably feedbacks.

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September 03, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
 #985

You yourself choose what and who to believe, everybody can decide for themselves who they trust.

Can you give an example of a moderated trust system where nobody has absolute power and there is no room for abuse / power mismanagement?

The trust system might not be perfect, but it's the best working thing we got. In my opinion it works great. If you have an idea on how to improve it, feel free to share it.


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September 03, 2018, 07:49:34 PM
 #986

You yourself choose what and who to believe, everybody can decide for themselves who they trust.

Can you give an example of a moderated trust system where nobody has absolute power and there is no room for abuse / power mismanagement?

The trust system might not be perfect, but it's the best working thing we got. In my opinion it works great. If you have an idea on how to improve it, feel free to share it.

It's only inconvenient for him because he's actually being negatively tagged.

The only people who hate trust systems, are those who are negatively affected by trust systems (scammers, frauds, etc)

@Game-protect: DT is default trust, as in the members have been promoted to DT by mods for the belief that they are good, trustworthy members & don't abuse the trust system. You can modify this list yourself and remove certain members if you don't agree with them. The entire trust system is supposed to be taken at your own discretion.

But yes, it's kind of indisputable that you have negative rep when a large amount of the community has come to consensus that you are a untrustworthy member. You simply have pissed people off by ruining people's trust on this forum with bold claims that you cant backup.

Calling people criminals when they haven't done anything to suggest crime is defamation. You must have substantiated proof to backup those claims, and no, running signature ads (advertising) is once again, NOT supporting a specific company. Otherwise, you might as well get off any forum that runs ads.

Also, posting to a blog post w/ claims that are disputable is not proof. You're not a lawyer, you've failed to provide any evidence that you have legitimate lawyers backing up your site, so please don't make criminality claims.

You've stooped so low that you add your links as source on Wikipedia articles: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilotto (see sources)

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September 04, 2018, 12:14:10 AM
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You yourself choose what and who to believe, everybody can decide for themselves who they trust.

Can you give an example of a moderated trust system where nobody has absolute power and there is no room for abuse / power mismanagement?

The trust system might not be perfect, but it's the best working thing we got. In my opinion it works great. If you have an idea on how to improve it, feel free to share it.

It's only inconvenient for him because he's actually being negatively tagged.
The fake negatively tagged by DT 2 members does not have any negative impact to the Game Protect operation. Cheesy

We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.


The only people who hate trust systems, are those who are negatively affected by trust systems (scammers, frauds, etc)
Hence you who promoted the publicly proven Sportsbet scam!


@Game-protect: DT is default trust, as in the members have been promoted to DT by mods for the belief that they are good, trustworthy members & don't abuse the trust system.
I have four blatant lies and nonsense feedbacks by DT 2 members = no abuse of trust system? Must be a joke! Cheesy


You can modify this list yourself and remove certain members if you don't agree with them. The entire trust system is supposed to be taken at your own discretion.
No, DT member negative feedbacks are shown by default below my profile.


But yes, it's kind of indisputable that you have negative rep when a large amount of the community has come to consensus that you are a untrustworthy member.
Based on what did they come to the conclusion that I am untrustworthy?

They never interacted with me and therefore can not have a personal experience!

Also, until today there is not one Scam Accusation against Game Protect, because scam accusations on bitcointalk require proof! Cheesy


You simply have pissed people off by ruining people's trust on this forum with bold claims that you cant backup.
All my negative feedback claims are proven and backed up! Wink


Calling people criminals when they haven't done anything to suggest crime is defamation.
Yes, I know that some people here commit the criminal offense of defamation with false and misleading claiming that I am a scammer. And?


You must have substantiated proof to backup those claims,
In the real world yes, but none of those claiming Game Protect is a scammer ever delivered the proof!

Let me refer to this guy:

Hi Game Protect, I believe that some community is blaming you because you call out criminals and try to protect customers and not because you do something wrong.
Yeah I think this is the explanation. Some of these forum posters try to say scam so they can protect the others doing that.
They want you to give up an quit your service so you will be gone. I believe this is the answer, that is why they cant find proof. Please send me the 5 btc reward I feel I should deserve it . I have been scam too for no reason but i just try to keep  the faiths You can send reward here  16CS3qvG3S2rwj68fjHfddEpfuVt2D5dL7  
I hope you keep the fight and helping people Thanks


and no, running signature ads (advertising) is once again, NOT supporting a specific company. Otherwise, you might as well get off any forum that runs ads.
Knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense in most countries in this world.


Also, posting to a blog post w/ claims that are disputable is not proof.
Did I say it is?


You're not a lawyer,
How do you know?


you've failed to provide any evidence that you have legitimate lawyers backing up your site, so please don't make criminality claims.
What means backing up my site?

I can hire almost every lawyer in this world, whether they "back up" (whatever this means) my site or not. Wink


You've stooped so low that you add your links as source on Wikipedia articles: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilotto (see sources)

http://archive.is/nhnhD
http://archive.is/lb3gf
You surely missed it, but there are countless backlinks to https://game-protect.com

No wait, my nationality is Swedish and I of course wrote this article to place my link! Cheesy

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We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.

I now have to say that you are a blatant liar.  I generally read your posts and laugh that someone can waste his/her life the way you do, thinking that people actually care about what you say...  But when I read you saying blatant lies, that anyone that has any understanding of internet analytics can prove to be absolute bullshit I must call "BULLSHIT".

You claim that 10-15% of your traffic comes from this forum is a laugh.  

You have an average of 5900 visitors to your site per month over the past 3 months (not unique, thats total) your webshield account (login) accounts for nearly 10% of those; thats just sad, 71.05% of your referrals are from this forum.  Your bounce rate is 53.13% and most people view less than 2 pages with an average visit duration of less than 2 minutes, considering you make up 10% of your own traffic thats just even sadder.

The real interesting one is, that you get alot of your traffic from www.profitaccumulator.co.uk, that is a free bet scam site from the United Kingdom run by Sam Stoffel and his boys.  These boys are true scammers!  Whats your association with them??  Are you Sam Stoffel?? Are you part of the profitaccumulator SCAM network??

Of further interest is that 5.5% of your exit traffic goes to betking.io, I think the readers would be interested to read that.  

All of this information can be researched here https://pro.similarweb.com/#/website/worldwide-overview/game-protect.com/*/999/3m?webSource=Total

You are a liar a cheat and generally a very disturbed individual.  I admit that some of my motivation for writing this is to see what bullshit you can come up with!

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Knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense in most countries in this world.

I have a conundrum.......   If in one forum thread you are claiming betking.io is a scam and in another thread you are claiming that knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense and your analytics says that you send 5% of your exit traffic to betking.io, what does that make you?

Im guessing confused, delusional and a problem gambler with a grudge.

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@Initscri "You're not a lawyer"    @game-protect  "How do you know?"

Because your arguments are incoherent and nonsensical.  You make unsubstantiated claims and last but definitely not least you give away free advice, thats something a lawyer would never do!  Further to that, you said in one of your other threads that you were not a lawyer, rather that you employed lawyers....    What a tool!!   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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September 04, 2018, 05:10:58 AM
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No wait, my nationality is Swedish and I of course wrote this article to place my link! Cheesy

1. You didn't write the entire article on Wikipedia (you simply linked within it). Also, awesome, the IP which posted the link on Wikipedia "80.252.219.190" is Swedish, so that is in-fact you then. Sources on wikipedia are supposed to be unbiased BTW, just saying. Yet again, another system you abuse for backlinks to your site. (https://archive.is/lb3gf)
2. If you're a lawyer, prove it. Post something w/ accreditation to suggest you actually have a law background and that you're not just parading around pretending to be one.

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September 04, 2018, 08:52:04 PM
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We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.

I now have to say that you are a blatant liar.  I generally read your posts and laugh that someone can waste his/her life the way you do, thinking that people actually care about what you say...  But when I read you saying blatant lies, that anyone that has any understanding of internet analytics can prove to be absolute bullshit I must call "BULLSHIT".

You claim that 10-15% of your traffic comes from this forum is a laugh.

71.05% of your referrals are from this forum.
Mentally ill nonsense shit is always welcome! Cheesy

Yesterday, 12 out of 103 visits = 12% are from bitcointalk

https://imgur.com/a/hLDbeob

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September 04, 2018, 11:59:08 PM
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We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.

I now have to say that you are a blatant liar.  I generally read your posts and laugh that someone can waste his/her life the way you do, thinking that people actually care about what you say...  But when I read you saying blatant lies, that anyone that has any understanding of internet analytics can prove to be absolute bullshit I must call "BULLSHIT".

You claim that 10-15% of your traffic comes from this forum is a laugh.

71.05% of your referrals are from this forum.
Mentally ill nonsense shit is always welcome! Cheesy

Yesterday, 12 out of 103 visits = 12% are from bitcointalk

https://imgur.com/a/hLDbeob

Oh man, you must really hate mentally ill people.

Just because today's average doesn't match up, doesn't mean that on a month/yearly basis what $simple$simon reported isn't true...

Care to show us a larger range than a day?

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What I like best is that he doesnt address any real issues.

I ask:

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The real interesting one is, that you get alot of your traffic from www.profitaccumulator.co.uk, that is a free bet scam site from the United Kingdom run by Sam Stoffel and his boys.  These boys are true scammers!  Whats your association with them??  Are you Sam Stoffel?? Are you part of the profitaccumulator SCAM network??

He doesnt even address it.  For a person who dribbles on with so much verbal diarrhea when someone asks a question that he doesnt like, then deafening silence is what the forum receives.

Further I ask:

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I have a conundrum.......   If in one forum thread you are claiming betking.io is a scam and in another thread you are claiming that knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense and your analytics says that you send 5% of your exit traffic to betking.io, what does that make you?

and all we get is a mute!

And for the record I concur stop using mental illness as a derogatory term.  It shows the immaturity of the individual!!!!

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What I like best is that he doesnt address any real issues.

I ask:

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The real interesting one is, that you get alot of your traffic from www.profitaccumulator.co.uk, that is a free bet scam site from the United Kingdom run by Sam Stoffel and his boys.  These boys are true scammers!  Whats your association with them??  Are you Sam Stoffel?? Are you part of the profitaccumulator SCAM network??

He doesnt even address it.  For a person who dribbles on with so much verbal diarrhea when someone asks a question that he doesnt like, then deafening silence is what the forum receives.

Further I ask:

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I have a conundrum.......   If in one forum thread you are claiming betking.io is a scam and in another thread you are claiming that knowingly promoting a scam is a criminal offense and your analytics says that you send 5% of your exit traffic to betking.io, what does that make you?

and all we get is a mute!

And for the record I concur stop using mental illness as a derogatory term.  It shows the immaturity of the individual!!!!



I've been saying it for a while. All he does is misdirect.

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September 05, 2018, 03:18:31 AM
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We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.

I now have to say that you are a blatant liar.  I generally read your posts and laugh that someone can waste his/her life the way you do, thinking that people actually care about what you say...  But when I read you saying blatant lies, that anyone that has any understanding of internet analytics can prove to be absolute bullshit I must call "BULLSHIT".

You claim that 10-15% of your traffic comes from this forum is a laugh.

71.05% of your referrals are from this forum.
Mentally ill nonsense shit is always welcome! Cheesy

Yesterday, 12 out of 103 visits = 12% are from bitcointalk

https://imgur.com/a/hLDbeob

Oh man, you must really hate mentally ill people.
Mentally ill nonsense shit is always welcome = hate mentally ill people?

So if someone says to you that you are welcome, your ill brain understands that he hates you? Wow, just wow! Cheesy


Just because today's average doesn't match up, doesn't mean that on a month/yearly basis what $simple$simon reported isn't true...
$simple$simon posted nothing but mentally ill nonsense shit without any connection to the real world, within Game Protect acts!  Wink


Care to show us a larger range than a day?
Sure, I am always happy if I can disprove mentally ill nonsense shit!  Cheesy

Today, 11 out of 118 = 10% are from bitcointalk

https://imgur.com/a/PgLnaJc

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September 05, 2018, 06:39:36 AM
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We are regularly flooded with scam reports and people asking for help. Also, only around 10-15% of traffic comes from this forum.

I now have to say that you are a blatant liar.  I generally read your posts and laugh that someone can waste his/her life the way you do, thinking that people actually care about what you say...  But when I read you saying blatant lies, that anyone that has any understanding of internet analytics can prove to be absolute bullshit I must call "BULLSHIT".

You claim that 10-15% of your traffic comes from this forum is a laugh.

71.05% of your referrals are from this forum.
Mentally ill nonsense shit is always welcome! Cheesy

Yesterday, 12 out of 103 visits = 12% are from bitcointalk

https://imgur.com/a/hLDbeob

Oh man, you must really hate mentally ill people.
Mentally ill nonsense shit is always welcome = hate mentally ill people?

So if someone says to you that you are welcome, your ill brain understands that he hates you? Wow, just wow! Cheesy


Just because today's average doesn't match up, doesn't mean that on a month/yearly basis what $simple$simon reported isn't true...
$simple$simon posted nothing but mentally ill nonsense shit without any connection to the real world, within Game Protect acts!  Wink


Care to show us a larger range than a day?
Sure, I am always happy if I can disprove mentally ill nonsense shit!  Cheesy

Today, 11 out of 118 = 10% are from bitcointalk

https://imgur.com/a/PgLnaJc

Using slurs against mentally ill people displays hatred, yes.

I asked for a range larger than a day, not for you to post the same image again.

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September 05, 2018, 02:54:21 PM
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I asked for a range larger than a day, not for you to post the same image again.
Same image again? Cheesy

So your brain is even not able to diversify between MONDAY https://imgur.com/a/hLDbeob and TUESDAY https://imgur.com/a/PgLnaJc ?

Wow, just wow! Roll Eyes

As your brain is anyway not able to diversify between Monday and Tuesday, I can save my time posting a larger range of Piwik stats.

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September 05, 2018, 05:48:21 PM
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I asked for a range larger than a day, not for you to post the same image again.
Same image again? Cheesy

So your brain is even not able to diversify between MONDAY https://imgur.com/a/hLDbeob and TUESDAY https://imgur.com/a/PgLnaJc ?

Wow, just wow! Roll Eyes

As your brain is anyway not able to diversify between Monday and Tuesday, I can save my time posting a larger range of Piwik stats.

Point is, I asked for a larger range than a day, and you instead just gave me another day. What I was suggesting is that  a day is not a large enough sample size to disprove the claim that a large majority of your visitors come from this forum.

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September 05, 2018, 07:09:31 PM
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why are you people wasting your time with this person?   you will never get the answers you ask
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September 05, 2018, 07:11:27 PM
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why are you people wasting your time with this person?   you will never get the answers you ask

I stopped for a while there.

I'm not sure whats better: Calling him on his BS so as to create a record of it (for people who research his service), even though it might be giving him a platform (which to be fair, he has anyways since he literally bumps this thread when no one responds).

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September 07, 2018, 01:47:30 AM
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Thursday, 4 out of 100 visits = only 4% are from bitcointalk https://imgur.com/a/dYEwb8L

You mentally ill nonsense shit dumb brain washers need to use a better wash powder!  Cheesy


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