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September 06, 2019, 04:19:58 AM
 #1001

Look what I found created: https://gamestrict.com
Domain registration: 31-08-2019

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Even if it's not you, it's competition. Remember what I said before about competition. Run your business in a shitty way, this is what happens.

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September 06, 2019, 03:22:40 PM
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It's a scam.  A 100%, without a doubt, scam.
This extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account claims it is 100% sure a scam, but is not able to put the proof on the table and get 5 BTC! Cheesy

Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much?





You could escrow the 5 btc and pick an arbitrator if you actually want to be taken seriously.
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September 07, 2019, 01:29:18 AM
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It's a scam.  A 100%, without a doubt, scam.
This extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk account claims it is 100% sure a scam, but is not able to put the proof on the table and get 5 BTC! Cheesy

Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much?

You could escrow the 5 btc and pick an arbitrator if you actually want to be taken seriously.
You could show the proof (based on real world laws and regulations) of the 100% sure scam if you actually want to be taken seriously.

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September 08, 2019, 11:55:45 PM
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Under international law (as well as laws of a majority of the states), the concealment of facts related to the crime is a signal of complicity in the crime.

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September 09, 2019, 12:44:42 AM
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Under international law (as well as laws of a majority of the states), the concealment of facts related to the crime is a signal of complicity in the crime.

So what?  Complicity is not a crime.  You also obviously don't have a clue how international law works either.
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September 09, 2019, 11:18:28 AM
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Under international law (as well as laws of a majority of the states), the concealment of facts related to the crime is a signal of complicity in the crime.

Complicity (in the crime) is not a crime.
In the real world, complicity in a crime is participating in the crime!


You I also obviously don't have a clue how international law works either.
Obviously not! Cheesy

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September 09, 2019, 05:48:55 PM
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Under international law (as well as laws of a majority of the states), the concealment of facts related to the crime is a signal of complicity in the crime.

Complicity is not a crime.
In the real world, complicity in a crime is participating in the crime!

Participating in a crime is not illegal either.

If you're going to quote me, please don't edit it to make it look like I said something I didn't.
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Hi,

I want to share my experience with game-protect.com

To start with, I was aware about the negative comments and accusations in this forum but as there was no one who had hard proof that this site/user was a scam (at least as far as I know) I decided to give him a chance.
I do a lot of betting not only at Asian books but also at soft books. Some of them are offshore-licensed in Curacao (BTW I'm the user lonnie55 from that screenshot TwitchySeal posted in #1006). Curacao is a place where from my experience at least 20-25% of the books are scam operations. To date, I was registered at more than 300 books, so occasionally I caught a book that didn't pay out but confiscated my funds. As there is no chance to achieve anything by reaching out to the licensors I asked Game Protect if he can do anything. I told him right from the beginning that I was not willing to spend any money in advance for his services which he was fine with. He offered me a no cure no pay-basis for most of my cases. The condition was that the amount in dispute was high enough (around 5 figures).

It happens back in July 2018 when GP forwarded my first ever case to a lawyer in Curacao. The lawyer from Curacao directly replied to me. I checked if the lawyer exists in reality and found proof that he does. That gave me a little bit of confidence.

Over the time GP and I have sent each other more than 100 emails concerning several issues and scam cases of Curacao based books. He offered me a 65:35 no cure no pay service on almost every case. The fact that he never asked for any money and that I was given the contact details of a real-existing lawyer gave me hope that his service might be legit.

It turned out I was wrong. In April 2019, for the very first time he asked for money. He said he could not apply a no cure no pay model to this specific case since the amount in dispute was too low for that. He asked for 5% of the amount in dispute which was €210. I told him that he knows my position and that I won't spend any money on this. He then said that he can't handle the case without charging a fee. Eventually I thought why not give him a chance after all. He never asked for any money in a time frame of almost a year. Curacao based books scammed me of a 6 digit amount in the past 8 years. €210 is just a drop in the ocean. So I thought f*ck it, let's give him a chance an I sent him the money (transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/de/btc/address/1Jomvg8ajgWb15tnxtoepGLkKPCj7ska1m )

This is what he promised:




He also said he will publish an article about that case. This article has yet to appear.




So June 30 passed and he didn't give me any update on my case nor did he refund the money. I've sent him a BTC address and a request to refund the money. He replied: "I handled many claims in the past months (including your other claims) and forgot about this one. However, there are some things in process and it makes sence (sic) to wait longer." I asked him "what kind of process?" and he answered "There are several things going on since the establishment of the foundation. A court case in regard to 1668/JAZ (same license like betmaster.com) was lodged 2 weeks ago. A court case with 365/JAZ claims (including your dobrobet and suprabets claims) will be lodged soon. A 65,000€ claim was successfully settled 2 weeks ago. Casino said duplicate account and canceled account balance and said final decision by management. After involvement of our lawyer they changed to "was an software error! LOL Lawyer is in conversation with different parties."

Of course at this point at the latest his behavior should have raised red flags. Nevertheless I still had the glimpse of a hope he could reach anything in only one of the many cases I had submitted to him, the foundation (of which I'm not sure it really exists as he never handed me out the contact details) or the lawyer.

However, as time passed with no updates from either the foundation or the lawyer and nothing beyond those "some things are in process"-statements from GP I started to consider that all this was possibly a show and the scam accusations were right. My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time. He said he had no money in his BTC wallet but needed €10 for a VPN. So this was actually the point where I lost my hope that he wasn't a swindler. I tried to test him and asked him i.a. for a phone number of the foundation but he ignored my request. I immediately asked him to refund my money. But his only reaction was that he closed the tickets of my pending cases which generated an automatic email notification. He's not made any further comment on this. Four days later I've sent him a reminder. Yesterday I've sent him another email: "The fact that you don't answer means that you won't refund the money, right? I just want to remind you of your own words (as mentioned in your email sent on April 30, 2019 17:15 CET): "My activity either will lead to get your money from Bestmaster or you will get the 210EUR back 30 June 2019. I attached screenshot of 310 support tickets and I can assure you that we handle claims totalling $ millions and the chance that I will ruin the reputation of Game Protect for 210EUR is zero point zero." I don't blame you. I just want to learn if the accusations in the BCT forum were right, so that I can close the whole case."

But he didn't reply. Usually he replies with minutes or hours. Due to the fact he is actively posting in this forum right now whilst a) ignoring all of my emails for almost 7 days and b) not refunding my money either, I must assume that he is a scammer.

tl;dr
- I sent GP €210 for covering a processing fee which he promised to refund on June 30 in the event he isn’t able to recover my funds
- he didn’t return the money to date
- he stopped replying to my emails for more than a week


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September 09, 2019, 06:09:45 PM
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Hi,

I want to share my experience with game-protect.com

To start with, I was aware about the negative comments and accusations in this forum but as there was no one who had hard proof that this site/user was a scam (at least as far as I know) I decided to give him a chance.
I do a lot of betting not only at Asian books but also at soft books. Some of them are offshore-licensed in Curacao (BTW I'm the user lonnie55 from that screenshot TwitchySeal posted in #1006). Curacao is a place where from my experience at least 20-25% of the books are scam operations. To date, I was registered at more than 300 books, so occasionally I caught a book that didn't pay out but confiscated my funds. As there is no chance to achieve anything by reaching out to the licensors I asked Game Protect if he can do anything. I told him right from the beginning that I was not willing to spend any money in advance for his services which he was fine with. He offered me a no cure no pay-basis for most of my cases. The condition was that the amount in dispute was high enough (around 5 figures).

It happens back in July 2018 when GP forwarded my first ever case to a lawyer in Curacao. The lawyer from Curacao directly replied to me. I checked if the lawyer exists in reality and found proof that he does. That gave me a little bit of confidence.

Over the time GP and I have sent each other more than 100 emails concerning several issues and scam cases of Curacao based books. He offered me a 65:35 no cure no pay service on almost every case. The fact that he never asked for any money and that I was given the contact details of a real-existing lawyer gave me hope that his service might be legit.

It turned out I was wrong. In April 2019, for the very first time he asked for money. He said he could not apply a no cure no pay model to this specific case since the amount in dispute was too low for that. He asked for 5% of the amount in dispute which was €210. I told him that he knows my position and that I won't spend any money on this. He then said that he can't handle the case without charging a fee. Eventually I thought why not give him a chance after all. He never asked for any money in a time frame of almost a year. Curacao based books scammed me of a 6 digit amount in the past 8 years. €210 is just a drop in the ocean. So I thought f*ck it, let's give him a chance an I sent him the money (transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/de/btc/address/1Jomvg8ajgWb15tnxtoepGLkKPCj7ska1m )

This is what he promised:




He also said he will publish an article about that case. This article has yet to appear.




So June 30 passed and he didn't give me any update on my case nor did he refund the money. I've sent him a BTC address and a request to refund the money. He replied: "I handled many claims in the past months (including your other claims) and forgot about this one. However, there are some things in process and it makes sence (sic) to wait longer." I asked him "what kind of process?" and he answered "There are several things going on since the establishment of the foundation. A court case in regard to 1668/JAZ (same license like betmaster.com) was lodged 2 weeks ago. A court case with 365/JAZ claims (including your dobrobet and suprabets claims) will be lodged soon. A 65,000€ claim was successfully settled 2 weeks ago. Casino said duplicate account and canceled account balance and said final decision by management. After involvement of our lawyer they changed to "was an software error! LOL Lawyer is in conversation with different parties."

Of course at this point at the latest his behavior should have raised red flags. Nevertheless I still had the glimpse of a hope he could reach anything in only one of the many cases I had submitted to him, the foundation (of which I'm not sure it really exists as he never handed me out the contact details) or the lawyer.

However, as time passed with no updates from either the foundation or the lawyer and nothing beyond those "some things are in process"-statements from GP I started to consider that all this was possibly a show and the scam accusations were right. My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time. He said he had no money in his BTC wallet but needed €10 for a VPN. So this was actually the point where I lost my hope that he wasn't a swindler. I tried to test him and asked him i.a. for a phone number of the foundation but he ignored my request. I immediately asked him to refund my money. But his only reaction was that he closed the tickets of my pending cases which generated an automatic email notification. He's not made any further comment on this. Four days later I've sent him a reminder. Yesterday I've sent him another email: "The fact that you don't answer means that you won't refund the money, right? I just want to remind you of your own words (as mentioned in your email sent on April 30, 2019 17:15 CET): "My activity either will lead to get your money from Bestmaster or you will get the 210EUR back 30 June 2019. I attached screenshot of 310 support tickets and I can assure you that we handle claims totalling $ millions and the chance that I will ruin the reputation of Game Protect for 210EUR is zero point zero." I don't blame you. I just want to learn if the accusations in the BCT forum were right, so that I can close the whole case."

But he didn't reply. Usually he replies with minutes or hours. Due to the fact he is actively posting in this forum right now whilst a) ignoring all of my emails for almost 7 days and b) not refunding my money either, I must assume that he is a scammer.

tl;dr
- I sent GP €210 for covering a processing fee which he promised to refund on June 30 in the event he isn’t able to recover my funds
- he didn’t return the money to date
- he stopped replying to my emails for more than a week





That sucks you got scammed.  Did he ever actually recover anything for you?

Did you ever reach out to the lawyer through a channel that GP didn't give you?  Someone on another forum accused him of claiming he was using a Dutch lawyer (I think named Rolan?), but when they called his office they had no idea what Game-Protect was.

You should post that in the Scam accusations forum
It would be best if you follow this template

Your account is great as is, but the more screen shots the better.  (his 300 ticket SS, telling you how $210 is pennies to him, then hitting you up for 10 dollars)  The more you expose, the more likely people will come forward after they realize he's doing the exact same thing to them.

Also, for lulz, you could post it in his Get 5 BTC for proof who Game Protect scammed and for how much? thread.  

This is very solid evidence, so you should be able to open the most serious flag on his profile and get enough support from the community that it will make it even more obvious he is a scammer.  I'm not sure how to do that though, but I'm sure someone else can explain it.,
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September 09, 2019, 06:32:44 PM
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That sucks you got scammed.  Did he ever actually recover anything for you?


No, not a penny.

Did you ever reach out to the lawyer through a channel that GP didn't give you?  Someone on another forum accused him of claiming he was using a Dutch lawyer (I think named Rolan?), but when they called his office they had no idea what Game-Protect was.

Not yet, but the email came from the address that is also shown on the lawyer's homepage. I don't think this email was fake. I checked the email address if a "l" (L) was replaced by a big "I" or so but wasn't the case. I did not call the lawyer yet though.

You should post that in the Scam accusations forum
It would be best if you follow this template

Okay, I'll do that later. Thanks.
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September 09, 2019, 06:47:34 PM
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Okay, I'll do that later. Thanks.

Once you do that, as TwitchySeal mentioned you can also add a flag to game-protect account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=874254

It looks like you had a written contract so you can choose option 3 and this will label game-protect as a scammer (as opposed to the current label "high risk of losing money").

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September 09, 2019, 07:11:32 PM
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Okay, I'll do that later. Thanks.

Once you do that, as TwitchySeal mentioned you can also add a flag to game-protect account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=874254

It looks like you had a written contract so you can choose option 3 and this will label game-protect as a scammer (as opposed to the current label "high risk of losing money").

Thanks for the advice. What is meant by written contract? A formal contract or just any written declaration of intent?

Anyway, before I red-flag the user I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this.
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September 09, 2019, 07:26:35 PM
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Thanks for the advice. What is meant by written contract? A formal contract or just any written declaration of intent?

Anyway, before I red-flag the user I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this.

Any written agreement (accepted by both sides), like the e-mail you posted, would qualify as a written contract in this context.

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September 13, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
 #1014

The 1xbet and 1xbit claims enforcement is in the final stage, please join cost free on a 65:35 no cure no pay basis?

1xBet scam + 1xBit enforcement or loss back assistance


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September 13, 2019, 02:36:50 PM
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When are you going to send me the BTC5 reward from proving you are a scammer?
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September 14, 2019, 11:52:41 AM
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The 1xbet and 1xbit claims enforcement is in the final stage, please join cost free on a 65:35 no cure no pay basis?

1xBet scam + 1xBit enforcement or loss back assistance

You should probably address the issues raised in this thread before continuing to advertise and promote your services here. Try not to dox your complainant this time. LOL.

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September 14, 2019, 11:56:14 AM
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You should probably address the issues raised in this thread before continuing to advertise and promote your services here. Try not to dox your complainant this time. LOL.
LOL poor GP.
It was meant to happen. One just can not run a business by fooling everyone around them.

When are you going to send me the BTC5 reward from proving you are a scammer?
Never. Did you really think that he was legitimately offered the reward? 🤪

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September 14, 2019, 12:13:12 PM
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The 1xbet and 1xbit claims enforcement is in the final stage, please join cost free on a 65:35 no cure no pay basis?

1xBet scam + 1xBit enforcement or loss back assistance

You should probably address the issues raised in this thread before continuing to advertise and promote your services here. Try not to dox your complainant this time. LOL.

Damn, rip GP, he now owes 5 BTC and it's a proven scammer, I wonder what bullshit will he come up with this time.

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September 14, 2019, 12:19:41 PM
 #1019

Extremely mentally ill bitcointalk accounts want to have issues addressed?

Ok, let us start with this:

Our gaming licenses (both in the UK and Curacao), regulate that we must undertake a “Know Your Customer” process (KYC) which enables us to establish your identity and location.
Your Curaçao license requires you to do KYC when?

a) Account creation

b) Deposit

c) Deposits reach a certain amount

d) Withdrawals reach a certain amount

e) Losses reach a certain amount

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September 14, 2019, 12:29:18 PM
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Uh oh...

Didn't know there was a pop quiz involved before you would be addressing the scam accusation against you.

You can dance around the issue all you want but I don't think its in the best interest of your "business" (if you can even call it that -- its more just like preying on victims of casino fraud by taking more money from them).

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