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July 18, 2017, 01:12:18 PM
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BD may have missed this one, since this thread chronicles police brutality/police crime:


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/father-calls-for-justice-in-minneapolis-police-shooting/

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The father of an Australian woman fatally shot by a Minneapolis police officer over the weekend called for justice on Tuesday hours after a local medical examiner ruled that her death was a homicide.

A Minneapolis police officer shot Justine Damond, originally from Sydney, through the door of a patrol car as she approached him and his partner in an alley near her home shortly before midnight on Saturday, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported, citing three unnamed sources.

Damond’s father, John Ruszczyk, told reporters in Sydney on Tuesday that her death was “our worst nightmare”.

“Justine was a beacon to all of us. We only ask that the light of justice shine down on the circumstances of her death,” he said.

The Hennepin County medical examiner said in a report issued on Monday evening that Damond died of a gunshot wound in the abdomen and concluded that her death was a homicide.

Authorities and activists on Monday questioned why Minneapolis police who fatally shot her did not have their body cameras turned on during the incident.

Justine Damond’s American fiance also wondered about the details of how she was shot. She had called the police to report a suspected sexual assault near her home, fiance Don Damond told reporters outside the home.

in a nutshell, she called the cops to report someone being sexually assualted, and when they came, they fatally shot her in the stomach, though the door of the cruiser. it seems she may have surprised one of them accidentally, and he reacted by blind firing. very interesting that neither one of them was wearing the camera they were supposed to have while on duty.


Bless this family, and this womans fiancee. she had to leave the world because she scared someone trained to protect themselves, by knocking on a window Sad

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July 18, 2017, 01:17:08 PM
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If you want to see police troubles, Google "police troubles in Quartzsite."

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If you want to see police troubles, Google "police troubles in Quartzsite."

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i did, im taking my morning tea. im not liking what im seeing at all Sad

http://www.parkerliveonline.com/2013/12/02/fired-quartzsite-police-officers-score-victory-in-federal-court/

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A federal court judge has awarded several former Quartzsite police officers, who once represented a majority of the town’s police force, summary judgment against their former employers.

Judge Mark E. Aspey, a United States Magistrate Judge, ruled in favor of the so-called ‘Quartzsite 8’, and against the Town of Quartzsite, former Police Chief Jeff Gilbert, former Town Manager Alex Taft and former Assistant Town Manager Al Johnson.

“The record in this matter is voluminous, exhibiting a pattern of small town politics and perceived loyalties and disloyalties.”
Chief Gilbert was accused by the officers in 2011 of failing to report paid vacation time as part of his annual leave, misusing the National Criminal Information Center database by using it to run background checks on political foes and misused grant funds.


this is what pisses me off. good cops (because i dont have any issue with the function cops are supposed to serve, preserving order) tried to point a finger, and had it bent back. it is truly the bad apples that ruin this bunch, and i honestly think this will ameliorate when a lot of the older generation of humans dies off, ie we have a cohort shift. im a traditionalist myself, i see a beauty in the wisdom of elders. but the poison attitudes cultivated in America need to die off. the old mentality is clearly not helping us here.

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The officers tried to blow the whistle by reporting to several authorities, including the Arizona Department of Public Safety, the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board (AZPOST) and the Quartzsite Town Council. A DPS investigation concluded that if Gilbert had permission for the vacation time from Taft (his direct supervisor) then it would not constitute “fraud or criminal behavior” and could not substantiate the other claims.

After these letters were written, the Plaintiffs alleged that there was threatened retaliation from the Chief:

‘Chief Gilbert then threatened retaliation for any officers involved in the DPS investigation against him, stating he knew the names” of those who had “talked against” him and that there would be “consequences” or “hell to pay.”’

From their training, some of the officers say they believed they could lose their certification as police officers if they failed to report any alleged criminal conduct by a superior officer, which they claimed put them in a difficult position. One letter from the officers begins:

‘We…write this letter with great hesitation, and only after much discussion and contemplation. We hesitate because we consider ourselves a team of professional, dedicated, and educated individuals and it goes against our nature to go against the Chief of Police. We also hesitate because we fully believe that if this letter does not have the desired result, and we continue to work under the current administration, there will most certainly be retaliation.’

all cops arent bad, by all means. but the shits of the bunch, are massive, steaming piles. the lowest common denominator is exceedingly low hanging.
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July 18, 2017, 02:34:49 PM
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If you want to see police troubles, Google "police troubles in Quartzsite."

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i did, im taking my morning tea. im not liking what im seeing at all Sad

http://www.parkerliveonline.com/2013/12/02/fired-quartzsite-police-officers-score-victory-in-federal-court/

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A federal court judge has awarded several former Quartzsite police officers, who once represented a majority of the town’s police force, summary judgment against their former employers.

Judge Mark E. Aspey, a United States Magistrate Judge, ruled in favor of the so-called ‘Quartzsite 8’, and against the Town of Quartzsite, former Police Chief Jeff Gilbert, former Town Manager Alex Taft and former Assistant Town Manager Al Johnson.

“The record in this matter is voluminous, exhibiting a pattern of small town politics and perceived loyalties and disloyalties.”
Chief Gilbert was accused by the officers in 2011 of failing to report paid vacation time as part of his annual leave, misusing the National Criminal Information Center database by using it to run background checks on political foes and misused grant funds.


this is what pisses me off. good cops (because i dont have any issue with the function cops are supposed to serve, preserving order) tried to point a finger, and had it bent back. it is truly the bad apples that ruin this bunch, and i honestly think this will ameliorate when a lot of the older generation of humans dies off, ie we have a cohort shift. im a traditionalist myself, i see a beauty in the wisdom of elders. but the poison attitudes cultivated in America need to die off. the old mentality is clearly not helping us here.

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The officers tried to blow the whistle by reporting to several authorities, including the Arizona Department of Public Safety, the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board (AZPOST) and the Quartzsite Town Council. A DPS investigation concluded that if Gilbert had permission for the vacation time from Taft (his direct supervisor) then it would not constitute “fraud or criminal behavior” and could not substantiate the other claims.

After these letters were written, the Plaintiffs alleged that there was threatened retaliation from the Chief:

‘Chief Gilbert then threatened retaliation for any officers involved in the DPS investigation against him, stating he knew the names” of those who had “talked against” him and that there would be “consequences” or “hell to pay.”’

From their training, some of the officers say they believed they could lose their certification as police officers if they failed to report any alleged criminal conduct by a superior officer, which they claimed put them in a difficult position. One letter from the officers begins:

‘We…write this letter with great hesitation, and only after much discussion and contemplation. We hesitate because we consider ourselves a team of professional, dedicated, and educated individuals and it goes against our nature to go against the Chief of Police. We also hesitate because we fully believe that if this letter does not have the desired result, and we continue to work under the current administration, there will most certainly be retaliation.’

all cops arent bad, by all means. but the shits of the bunch, are massive, steaming piles. the lowest common denominator is exceedingly low hanging.

ISIS, on the other hand, represents some of the best in the Islamic written religion. That's how they got their start. Some Islamic people got fed up with standard Islamic clerics, and started to look at what the Koran really said. If the Koran didn't say it, there wouldn't be any ISIS. The US simply took advantage of what was brewing with the honest ISIS people when they funded them.

ISIS might be an example of some of the worst people to the rest of the world. But to other ISIS people, and according to the literal writings of the Koran, they are as close to the best as you can come. The rest of the world, even other Muslims, are all infidels, because they don't even try to follow the Koran like it is written.

The only reason why we have Muslims that the rest of the world would say are good Muslims is, Islam is dying. It isn't dying in that they go out and SAY it is dying. After all, they still use call themselves Muslims of Islam. But Islam is dying in the fact that they don't follow all the words of the Koran and Hadiths... but rather try to twist those words into something that matches life and religion the way they want to have it.

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July 18, 2017, 03:06:29 PM
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ISIS, on the other hand, represents some of the best in the Islamic written religion. That's how they got their start. Some Islamic people got fed up with standard Islamic clerics, and started to look at what the Koran really said. If the Koran didn't say it, there wouldn't be any ISIS. The US simply took advantage of what was brewing with the honest ISIS people when they funded them.

ISIS might be an example of some of the worst people to the rest of the world. But to other ISIS people, and according to the literal writings of the Koran, they are as close to the best as you can come. The rest of the world, even other Muslims, are all infidels, because they don't even try to follow the Koran like it is written.

The only reason why we have Muslims that the rest of the world would say are good Muslims is, Islam is dying. It isn't dying in that they go out and SAY it is dying. After all, they still use call themselves Muslims of Islam. But Islam is dying in the fact that they don't follow all the words of the Koran and Hadiths... but rather try to twist those words into something that matches life and religion the way they want to have it.

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I agree and disgree with you here. i certainly agree that islamic orthodoxy (IS is just a hyper conservative religious organization to me) is the cause of the violence/terror; I would be lying to you if I said the Koran doesnt clearly espouse some violent, separatist doctrine). Bu that is part of the beauty of these three books to me (Torah, the NT, and the Koran), I think they are living works of literature. i believe they were so perfectly written that they can be interpreted to address the evolving concerns of human society. that is, older passages will change meaning as human society reaches a greater understanding of its true nature. it addresses the entire scope of our existence, the Book; there are truths about our future that have not been realized because it it not yet time. this is the very nature of esoteric knowledge.

our religions, despite of cultures, are religions of peace. i would say we were supposed to be the most peaceful, us Christians, accepting a covenant of non violence and empathy towards our fellow like our role model, JC.

we have failed as Christians, at that Sad maybe moreso we have failed as humans, and forgotten our Father's face Sad 666 is the mark of the Beast, but it is tellingly also the mark of Man.
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July 18, 2017, 03:22:10 PM
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https://youtu.be/__KnmbmkSdc

Mark Passio All Cops & Soldiers Are Bad People

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ISIS is just another brand of cops/soldier enforcing a different law.

Can always argue on the degree of brainwashing and amount of damage done by one or the other, but fundamentally it's the same logic.
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July 24, 2017, 10:32:44 AM
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WATCH: Cop Kills Unarmed Man for Walking Toward Him – Gets Job Back & Immunity





The parents of a man killed by police are understandably upset after finding out this week that the cop, officer Justin Schlabach, who shot their unarmed son, Timothy Mitchell, for walking toward him will have immunity in the lawsuit.

Mitchell's family sued Munising Officer Justin Schlabach, saying he used excessive force at the end of a chase in 2014.

According to TV6, in a 2-1 decision Wednesday, the appeals court said the officer had "probable cause" to believe Mitchell was an immediate threat after the man drove into a ditch. The court says dash-cam video shows Mitchell appeared hostile and took "long, purposeful steps" toward Schlabach.

However, the dashcam video shows no such hostility, only a man walking toward a cop.

There was one judge on the panel who dissented against granting the killer cop immunity. Judge Karen Nelson Moore noted that jurors should be able to conclude that Schlabach could have chosen another way to subdue Mitchell. And, when watching the video below, it is entirely clear that deadly force was not at all needed at that time.


Read more and watch the video at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-schlabach-kills-unarmed-man-immunity/.


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Graphic Dashcam: Cop Shoots Fleeing, Unarmed Man in Back, Fires Again After He Falls





Three years after a Knoxville police officer shot an unarmed man in the back six times and killed him, an appellate court has determined that the officer is not eligible for qualified immunity in the $3 million civil rights lawsuit he is facing.

The incident occurred during a stop on the side of the road when Officer David Gerlach encountered Ronald E. Carden, a 45-year-old man who was recently released on parole. It ended with Gerlach shooting Carden multiple times in the back, and then proceeding to shoot him as he was falling to the ground. The horrific incident now serves to illustrate that not only did police lie about what happened, they covered it up, and refused to bring charges against an officer who should have likely been charged with homicide.

Carden's son, Brandon, is suing Gerlach and the Knoxville Police Department for $3 million in a federal civil rights lawsuit. He recently won a small victory in court when an appellate judge refused to grant qualified immunity to Gerlach. The court ruled that not only did case law not sustain that the shooting was justified, but they denied Gerlach's claim of immunity from prosecution.


Read more and watch the video at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/killer-cop-cannot-claim-qualified-immunity-trial-proceed/.


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July 24, 2017, 10:39:36 AM
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Cops Turn Off Body Cams, Knock Man Unconscious, But Street Cams Busted Them





As Minneapolis is in an uproar that a resident, Justine Damon, could be shot and killed by police not using their body cameras to capture the horrific incident, one man is suing police for manipulating their own body cams to incriminate him.

Barine Deezia was walking home with his friends early on the morning of March 20, 2016, when police noticed one of his friends, a female, who appeared to be intoxicated.

They wanted to know what bar served her and were following her and Deezia down the street. The group of friends seemed to be managing just fine without the help of police, but like a criminal gang, the police kept following them.

Eventually, Deezia found a place for his female friend to sit and begin to sober up, but police engaged the group again. Because they had switched off their cameras the equipment was not recording the incident in question but street cameras did.

The video shows Deezia and his group of friends sitting and standing on an outside patio of a restaurant, when all of a sudden, police swarmed in and violently slammed Deezia into the restaurant's windows and then forcefully took him to the ground.


Read more and watch the video at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-turn-off-body-cams-knock-man-unconscious/.


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July 24, 2017, 10:43:19 AM
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Watch "Judge Dredd," with Sylvester Stallone, at https://gostream.is/film/judge-dredd-9668/.   

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Watch "Judge Dredd," with Sylvester Stallone, at https://gostream.is/film/judge-dredd-9668/.   

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And what does this mean? There are corrupt police and judges, but not all. In this film, Stallone was also a judge. Are you on the forum say that all cops are bad, but if you were in trouble you turn to him and they come to you for help. Try to ask for help to ISIS!

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July 24, 2017, 05:19:44 PM
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ISIS is just another brand of cops/soldier enforcing a different law.

Ridiculous. The ISIS barbarians are neither cops nor soldiers. They are a bunch of psychopaths who want to exterminate anyone who doesn't agree with their views. You can't compare the cops to terrorists such as those from the ISIS. Without these cops, the United States would be a less safer place, with more murders and rapes every day.


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July 24, 2017, 06:45:59 PM
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I got your idea, USA citizens should be afraid of their own "security". I don't get the point of being so agressive with your own people.
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Isn't i funny that the ones who were sworn to protect the people are the very ones who end up killing them, and it seems that they are always getting away with it which is not very good. But their crimes cannot be compared to what ISIS is doing. But there must be some serious inquiry about how the police force is killing civilians without anything concrete being done to stop it.



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July 25, 2017, 07:26:45 AM
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Isn't i funny that the ones who were sworn to protect the people are the very ones who end up killing them, and it seems that they are always getting away with it which is not very good. But their crimes cannot be compared to what ISIS is doing. But there must be some serious inquiry about how the police force is killing civilians without anything concrete being done to stop it.

One major point.

Cops know that what they are doing is not within the scope of their duty. They at least have some inner doubts. Yet they often do it kinda for fun, or to release their frustrations on the innocent.

ISIS know that what they are doing is their duty. We might not think they have a duty like this. We might think they are bad or wrong. But they know that what they do is right, and their duty.

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Are you afraid of ISIS in America? Be afraid of U.S. cops!


Woman Facebook live-streams her dying boyfriend seconds after he is shot four times...





WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

Diamond Reynolds live-streamed the aftermath of her boyfriend's shooting

Philando Castile was shot at 9pm during a traffic stop in Minnesota

Reynolds claims that he was reaching for a license and ID

And she says he told the cop he had a license to carry a weapon

But she claims the 'Chinese police officer' shot him four times in the arm

The cop - audibly panicked - swears and tells her not to move several times

Police have confirmed that he died in hospital

Some 200 protesters formed outside Minnesota Governor's house

The cop is from the St. Anthony Police Department in Falcon Heights

Castile's mother learned of it when her daughter screamed while online

She claims she wasn't allowed to see her son in hospital


Minneapolis woman livestreams her dying boyfriend seconds after he is shot by a cop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQs6djkqmy8



Read more at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3678293/Please-don-t-tell-s-gone-Horrifying-moment-woman-believes-black-boyfriend-died-Minneapolis-cop-shot-four-times-reached-license.html.


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I think this is very not connected in any way. ISIS is a group that is using terror as a weapon they kill to instill fear and hatred and have very known objectives. Us cops yes they are very controversial nowadays but I think that their kindset is very different to what this terrorists arw doing. You can't generalize killings as one and the same as that of terrorists it is overgeneralization.

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July 25, 2017, 06:22:00 PM
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Cops Shoot So Many People, New State Regs Teach Drivers 'How NOT To Get Shot By Police'





Driver's manuals in Arizona will now include a section detailing "how not to get shot by police" during traffic stops, which is specifically aimed at armed drivers in the wake of the shooting that killed Philando Castile.

Democratic State Rep. Reginald Bolding told the Arizona Daily Star that he pushed for a rewrite of the state's driver's manual as a way to help educate drivers—especially those who are black and Hispanic, because he said records have shown that they are more likely to become victims of police shootings.

"When you look at what's taken place across the country, you have seen a majority of individuals who are people of color that have had higher incidence of interactions with law-enforcement officers, particularly in shootings," Bolding said. "Hopefully we can get to a place where that's not the reality."

One of the most recent incidents occurred in Minnesota when Philando Castile was shot and killed by a police officer during a traffic stop in July 2016. Castile followed basic protocol for individuals with concealed handgun licenses, and he informed the officer that he was armed and that he had a license.

As soon as Castile reached for his I.D., Officer Jeronimo Yanez opened fire on the vehicle—with Castile's girlfriend in the passenger seat and her four-year-old daughter in the back seat—and he fired seven rounds. Castile did not receive immediate medical attention, and was pronounced dead 20 minutes after the shooting.

Despite the fact that the shooting garnered national media attention with both Dashcam video and a Facebook Live video recorded by Castile's girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, documenting the aftermath inside the car, the officer was found not guilty on all counts.

Squad dashcam video - Yanez case (WARNING: Graphic content)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ac7Zblqyk



Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/arizona-drivers-manuals-add-new-police-section/.


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July 25, 2017, 06:38:16 PM
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Policing for Profit: Jeff Sessions & Co.'s Thinly Veiled Plot to Rob Us Blind





"Laws are no longer made by a rational process of public discussion; they are made by a process of blackmail and intimidation, and they are executed in the same manner. The typical lawmaker of today is a man wholly devoid of principle — a mere counter in a grotesque and knavish game. If the right pressure could be applied to him, he would be cheerfully in favor of polygamy, astrology or cannibalism. It is the aim of the Bill of Rights, if it has any remaining aim at all, to curb such prehensile gentry. Its function is to set a limitation upon their power to harry and oppress us to their own private profit."— H.L. Mencken

Let's not mince words.

Jeff Sessions, the nation's top law enforcement official, would not recognize the Constitution if he ran right smack into it.

Whether the head of the Trump Administration's Justice Department enjoys being the architect of a police state or is just painfully, criminally clueless, Sessions has done a great job thus far of sidestepping the Constitution at every turn.

Most recently, under the guise of "fighting crime," Sessions gave police the green light to rob, pilfer, steal, thieve, swipe, purloin, filch and liberate American taxpayers of even more of their hard-earned valuables (especially if it happens to be significant amounts of cash) using any means, fair or foul.

In this case, the foul method favored by Sessions & Co. is civil asset forfeiture, which allows police and prosecutors to "seize your car or other property, sell it and use the proceeds to fund agency budgets—all without so much as charging you with a crime."

Under a federal equitable sharing program, police turn asset forfeiture cases over to federal agents who process seizures and then return 80% of the proceeds to the police. (In Michigan, police actually get to keep up to 100% of forfeited property.)

This incentive-driven excuse for stealing from the citizenry is more accurately referred to as "policing for profit" or "theft by cop."

Despite the fact that 80 percent of these asset forfeiture cases result in no charge against the property owner, challenging these "takings" in court can cost the owner more than the value of the confiscated property itself. As a result, most property owners either give up the fight or chalk the confiscation up to government corruption, leaving the police and other government officials to reap the benefits.

And boy, do they reap the benefits.

Police agencies have used their ill-gotten gains "to buy guns, armored cars and electronic surveillance gear," reports The Washington Post. "They have also spent money on luxury vehicles, travel and a clown named Sparkles."

Incredibly, these asset forfeiture scams have become so profitable for the government that, according to The Washington Post, "in 2014, law enforcement took more stuff from people than burglars did." As the Post notes, "the Treasury and Justice departments deposited more than $5 billion into their respective asset forfeiture funds. That same year, the FBI reports that burglary losses topped out at $3.5 billion."

In 2015, the federal government seized nearly $2.6 billion worth of airplanes, houses, cash, jewelry, cars and other items under the guise of civil asset forfeiture.

According to USA Today, "Anecdotal evidence suggests that allowing departments to keep forfeiture proceeds may tempt them to use the funds unwisely. For example, consider a 2015 scandal in Romulus, Michigan, where police officers used funds forfeited from illicit drug and prostitution stings to pay for ...  illicit drugs and prostitutes."

Memo to the rest of my fellow indentured servants who are living through this dark era of government corruption, incompetence and general ineptitude: this is not how justice in America is supposed to work.

We are now ruled by a government so consumed with squeezing every last penny out of the population that they are completely unconcerned if essential freedoms are trampled in the process.

Our freedoms aren't just being trampled, however. They're being eviscerated.

At every turn, "We the People" are getting swindled, cheated, conned, robbed, raided, pickpocketed, mugged, deceived, defrauded, double-crossed and fleeced by governmental and corporate shareholders of the American police state out to make a profit at taxpayer expense.

Americans no longer have to be guilty to be stripped of their property, rights and liberties. All you have to be is in possession of something the government wants. And if you happen to have something the government wants badly enough, trust me, their agents will go to any lengths to get it.

If the government can arbitrarily freeze, seize or lay claim to your property (money, land or possessions) under government asset forfeiture schemes, you have no true rights.

Here's how the whole ugly business works in a nutshell.

First, government agents (usually the police) use a broad array of tactics to profile, identify, target and arrange to encounter (in a traffic stop, on a train, in an airport, in public, or on private property) those  individuals who might be traveling with a significant amount of cash or possess property of value. Second, these government agents—empowered by the courts and the legislatures—seize private property (cash, jewelry, cars, homes and other valuables) they "suspect" may be connected to criminal activity.


Read more and cli9ck the links at https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/policing_for_profit_jeff_sessions_co.s_thinly_veiled_plot_to_rob_us_blind.


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July 25, 2017, 07:10:09 PM
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Isn't i funny that the ones who were sworn to protect the people are the very ones who end up killing them, and it seems that they are always getting away with it which is not very good. But their crimes cannot be compared to what ISIS is doing. But there must be some serious inquiry about how the police force is killing civilians without anything concrete being done to stop it.

In 90% of the cases, the civilians are at the fault. Take the case of Trayvon Martin for example. The guy was clad in a hoodie, and he first attacked George Zimmerman of the neighborhood watch which resulted in him getting shot. Another example is the shooting of Tamir Rice. He was aiming at people with his toy gun, which closely resembled a real weapon. The cops didn't had enough time to check whether his gun was a toy or not.


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Isn't i funny that the ones who were sworn to protect the people are the very ones who end up killing them, and it seems that they are always getting away with it which is not very good. But their crimes cannot be compared to what ISIS is doing. But there must be some serious inquiry about how the police force is killing civilians without anything concrete being done to stop it.

In 90% of the cases, the civilians are at the fault. Take the case of Trayvon Martin for example. The guy was clad in a hoodie, and he first attacked George Zimmerman of the neighborhood watch which resulted in him getting shot. Another example is the shooting of Tamir Rice. He was aiming at people with his toy gun, which closely resembled a real weapon. The cops didn't had enough time to check whether his gun was a toy or not.

yezzir  Huh

I had to bite man.

so Trayvon should have been shot, by a private citizen, not a cop, for wearing a fucking hoodie?
and "first" and "attack" might mean something else than what I thought.

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Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department. ...

Zimmerman: Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a
real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle, urn, the best address I can
give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or
he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking
about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or
sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring...

Dispatcher: OK, he's just walking around the area...

Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses.

Dispatcher: OK...

Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.

Dispatcher: OK— you said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?

Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse...

Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse, do you know what the — he's near the
clubhouse right now?

Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me.
Dispatcher: OK.

Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?
Zimmerman: He's got button on his shirt, late teens.
Dispatcher: Late teens ok.

be careful, you can get shot walking around looking at houses. its a proven fact Cheesy

it crazy, i think its hard to attack someone when you are running way from them. I dont know you, but if im walking through a neighborhood and a fucking truck starts following me, well, I might get a little alarmed. and im 30, not 17. he started running away from Zimmerman. remember, Trayvon is an unarmed 17 year old walking home from the store. He didnt commit any crime other than assault (defending himself) from Zimmerman, and not until Zimmerman forced the interaction, against the wishes and request of law enforcement:

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Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left...uh
you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Shit he's running.

Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.

Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?

Zimmerman: The back entrance. ..fucking [unintelligible]

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah

Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Ok

Dispatcher: Alright sir what is your name?
Zimmerman: George. ..He ran.
Dispatcher: Alright George what's your last name?
Zimmerman: Zimmerman

but he had a hoodie on, right? motherfucker had to die, those hoodie dudes are some bad hombres. Wink

you must not live in a cold climate Cheesy

alright, moving on to the fucking kid they killed, Rice, a 12 year old.

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He was aiming at people with his toy gun, which closely resembled a real weapon. The cops didn't had enough time to check whether his gun was a toy or not.

Didnt have time to check? Time to shoot a kid, but not enough time to check if the gun he had was real. he certainly got shot with real guns, which is why he is dead fucking meat, but by all means, its ok to shoot a kid waving a toy gun around in a public park.

and before you say something about the officers protecting themselves, please know this:

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The officer fatally shot Tamir Rice less than 2 seconds after exiting his police car.
This is according to the official report from the prosecutor: “Officer Loehman discharged his firearm within two seconds of exiting the car. Officer Loehmann fired two shots, one of which hit Tamir in the abdomen and caused him to fall in the area between the patrol car and the gazebo.”
The officers both claimed to have warned Rice multiple times before firing. None of the witnesses heard any of these “verbal commands.”

two seconds. take a deep breath and hold it for those two seconds.

one.

two.

in that time, an officer made a decision to shoot a kid playing in a park twice, once in the stomach and once in the chest. no warning shot, no disabling shot under the waist, no less than lethal alternatives like a taser or mace. bang bang.

and i find it hard to believe you can issue multiple commands to "put down the gun" in two seconds. fuck, it takes me a second to comprehend when someone suddenly starts yelling at me.

but hey, he probably had on a hoodie too. blow his black ass away Cheesy

i say all that shit to say this; you are the reason why black lives matter. yes, you Mr. Coleman, the blame rests upon you. It is not so much that im upset anymore when shit like this happens; its old hat at this point.  cops kill people. they kill black people too, especially poor ones. but what makes me sad is when people like you cant/dont have compassion for peoples kids getting murdered, for no fucking reason. I wont come straight out and label you a racist, but I have to question the motivation for your lack of compassion. Why do both of these kids matter so little to you; why is this miscarriage of justice any less stinging? You seem to be suggesting that these children deserved to be killed.

And Zimmerman isnt even a cop. Pray your seed doesnt encounter someone that makes them feel threatened, because of what they are wearing Wink and Im not talking about that goddamned hoodie, im talking about their skin Cheesy

and I want you to respond  to this if you respond to nothing else in my post:

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A woman slapped the back of police squad car just before the fatal police shooting of an unarmed Australian woman in Minneapolis, according to newly released court documents.

The detail came in an application for a search warrant, made public Monday in court documents, from state investigators examining what led to the July 15 shooting of Sydney native Justine Damond, 40.

The fatal incident outraged the public in Australia and Minnesota, and led to the resignation of Minneapolis' police chief. Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull called the shooting "shocking" and "inexplicable."

"Upon police arrival, a female 'slaps' the back of the patrol squad. After that, it is unknown to BCA agents what exactly happened, but the female became deceased in the alley," the court document reads. It does not say whether the woman who slapped the car was Damond.

Damond family attorney Robert Bennett could not be reached to comment on Tuesday. Previously, Bennett had said: "Usually people who call the police in their pajamas are not ambushers."

One responding officer, Matthew Harrity, told investigators he was startled by a loud sound near the patrol car shortly before his partner, Mohamed Noor, fired through the open driver's-side window, striking Damond.

"the female became deceased in the alley". thats an awfully cute way to phrase that; lawyers certainly have a way with words, do they not? Cheesy

a white Australian woman, shot by a Muslim Somali police officer (yezzir, look up Somali born officer Mohamed Noor). Yall hate Muslims on this board for some reason; this is the type of shit that makes Steve Bannon wake up in a cold sweat and clutch his chest in the night Cheesy She slapped the back of a police cruiser, the horror, and caught a police issued round to the fucking chest. did this poor woman deserve to die? She died for her crime of reporting a rape in her area Wink

but i bet this feels unfair to you, when the other two cases dont. ask yourself why that is the case, if so.

you might learn something about yourself.

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