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January 19, 2017, 03:20:53 AM
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Might want to double check the new website on Safari. The logo doesn't size down enough.
Site is better looking than the previous one.
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January 19, 2017, 05:02:11 AM
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I made investments into HEAT with ETH, BTC, FIM, NXT.

It would be nice to see the spreadsheet with my account number and the amount of heat also with the date and payment method. (BTC, ETH, FIM, NXT)

Is that possible so i can securely look at all my purchases?

I think it was better as a 1.5x resolution then the 606k heat can be distributed later but people on exchanges will probably miss out.


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January 19, 2017, 06:35:59 AM
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The file in the following URL contains the preliminary genesis block data. It's not going to be changed before applying unless something pretty serious or significant errors come up. First column is the amount of HEATs the account will receive. Find your HEAT account and verify it's right. If you haven't created your HEAT account or it isn't present, it's possible to claim the stake after the HEAT tokens have been distributed.

http://pastebin.com/vEjEWQmj


During double check calculations and due to last minute removal of two large unauthorized FIMK participations, the 1.50x multiplier changed slightly. As we already let that out earlier today to the exchangers who have applied it, to achieve the 25 000 000 HEAT genesis we're gonna stick with that and will thus have 606164 extra HEAT as spare to fix any possible genesis omittances due to stakeholders or our manual verification, and to distribute the remaining amount to stakeholders or as bounties etc. during the first year after launch. This can be discussed and voted about on the HEAT forum after launch.

Some accounts have multiple entries, it's possible we sum these up to the genesis so there may be just a single transaction. If you notice problems in the list regarding your account, please email support at heatledger doz com or use the contact form on our web site.

Do you understand the difference between invested money and bounties?
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January 19, 2017, 07:40:02 AM
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Maybe I formulated the usage of the 606k HEAT in a confusing way - of course it's primarily supposed to be distributed to the original stakeholders. Due to exchangers being live before the mainnet, the stakeholder distribution has already been breached so we don't consider it an equally fair option to be distributed right now as a bonus at least. While being forced to consider options due to the slight technical force majeure of that calculation mismatch, it could be used to the benefit of stakeholders in some yet undecided way should any kind of consensus there be reached. The only decision we're now making is to allow time and maybe more options for the usage of that lot. The best way likely is to drop it to original stakeholders, however that can also be done a little later, still according to their original stake. There may be also be some more beneficial options available in this unexpected situation, which can only be revealed through constructive discussion with the stakeholders.

Correction - it is not the primary usage of these coins to be given to your stakeholders/ico investors, it is the ONLY usage. You had an agreement. People gave you money according to that agreement. Your investors should not care as to why you have in your possession extra coins (force major is not the reason by the way - take some responsibility to your mistakes for once). These coins belong to the people who sent you funds - they purchased these coins from you and doing anything but giving them these coins is withholding funds not rightfully due to you . It is that simple. No confusion here. Respect the agreement - your investors committed to it once they sent you money, now it is your turn to do your part in the agreed deal and give them the coins they paid for.
You want to maintain a legal company? Start by abiding the law - Preventing your investors from receiving purchased coins is violating the basic agreement by which this transaction was founded on and that is illegal in any country on the planet. Talking won't change this fact and I think you want to refrain from becoming a criminal.

Agree, the agreement was to distribute everything equally.

It's not that hard to understand, why do devs kill their own projects before it even starts? It boggles the mind, it's business ethics 101.

This project will not go too far with these idiotic business tactics.
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January 19, 2017, 07:49:52 AM
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The file in the following URL contains the preliminary genesis block data. It's not going to be changed before applying unless something pretty serious or significant errors come up. First column is the amount of HEATs the account will receive. Find your HEAT account and verify it's right. If you haven't created your HEAT account or it isn't present, it's possible to claim the stake after the HEAT tokens have been distributed.

http://pastebin.com/vEjEWQmj


During double check calculations and due to last minute removal of two large unauthorized FIMK participations, the 1.50x multiplier changed slightly. As we already let that out earlier today to the exchangers who have applied it, to achieve the 25 000 000 HEAT genesis we're gonna stick with that and will thus have 606164 extra HEAT as spare to fix any possible genesis omittances due to stakeholders or our manual verification, and to distribute the remaining amount to stakeholders or as bounties etc. during the first year after launch. This can be discussed and voted about on the HEAT forum after launch.

Some accounts have multiple entries, it's possible we sum these up to the genesis so there may be just a single transaction. If you notice problems in the list regarding your account, please email support at heatledger doz com or use the contact form on our web site.

Do you understand the difference between invested money and bounties?
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January 19, 2017, 08:58:51 AM
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The file in the following URL contains the preliminary genesis block data. It's not going to be changed before applying unless something pretty serious or significant errors come up. First column is the amount of HEATs the account will receive. Find your HEAT account and verify it's right. If you haven't created your HEAT account or it isn't present, it's possible to claim the stake after the HEAT tokens have been distributed.

http://pastebin.com/vEjEWQmj


During double check calculations and due to last minute removal of two large unauthorized FIMK participations, the 1.50x multiplier changed slightly. As we already let that out earlier today to the exchangers who have applied it, to achieve the 25 000 000 HEAT genesis we're gonna stick with that and will thus have 606164 extra HEAT as spare to fix any possible genesis omittances due to stakeholders or our manual verification, and to distribute the remaining amount to stakeholders or as bounties etc. during the first year after launch. This can be discussed and voted about on the HEAT forum after launch.

Some accounts have multiple entries, it's possible we sum these up to the genesis so there may be just a single transaction. If you notice problems in the list regarding your account, please email support at heatledger doz com or use the contact form on our web site.

Looks like this list has separate entries for each transaction associated with an account.

Here is unofficial HEAT richlist based on the pastebin data:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/177ZPhOkKfASNnMEw1gxfQKBCBNMFWbqBAlzJlBqd90U/edit?usp=sharing

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January 19, 2017, 09:37:04 AM
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https://alpha.heatledger.com is not working.  Huh

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January 19, 2017, 09:38:50 AM
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https://alpha.heatledger.com is not working.  Huh

That's rather positive because it shows that something is done.
Edit: But the login itself doesn't work since January 17th. Don't worry.
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January 19, 2017, 10:16:03 AM
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So do I understand correctly, that if I buy today on C-CEX I will get +50% additional coins for free after launch this week, because they are going to be multiplied 50% bonus?

Yes!
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January 19, 2017, 12:15:05 PM
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So do I understand correctly, that if I buy today on C-CEX I will get +50% additional coins for free after launch this week, because they are going to be multiplied 50% bonus?

Yes!

If someone is willing to sell at 5000 sat I will be happy to buy some HEAT, will place buy wall if anyone will be interested in selling at that price. I understand that after launch there will be dump to that price, but I want it now because I want those +50% coins.

Not going to happen.
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January 19, 2017, 02:06:13 PM
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I vaguely remember them saying there were some minor obstacles to be resolved last September...

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January 19, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
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I vaguely remember them saying there were some minor obstacles to be resolved last September...
Exactly !

I have been sitting on a few investments which are still under development for close to 3 years or something like that.
I don't complain as they are transparant and there is a huge team involved with a publicly available Github repository therefore I don;t mind waiting.
My issue with this investment is a) its closed source b) this is a one man team c) they give deadlines which they never meet and the investors have no way of knowing whether there is a legitimate code base being developed which fits the purpose as advertised.

I doubt we will see launch this month however I really really want to be proven wrong.

They have already missed the deadline after being given close to  5 months extra time. The fact that they just realised this issue with the surplus coins on the launch day is disheartening to say the least.

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January 19, 2017, 02:29:56 PM
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I vaguely remember them saying there were some minor obstacles to be resolved last September...
I doubt we will see launch this month however I really really want to be proven wrong.

If you recall the development notes by Dirk, there were major changes made to the asset-to-asset exchange portion of HEAT core.  The changes were for the best, even though it introduced major development delays.  There were probably others too, but this one in particular stands out.

Anyone who has done a final development sprint know how taxing it can be.  If they get release out within the next couple of days, I am impressed.
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January 19, 2017, 02:38:23 PM
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I have seen bad releases of projects before and it feels unprofessional every time, yet in the case of HEAT it is not the only concern. It amazes me to see how the thought process of people who are supposed to be both experienced in business and professional in creating tech actually works here. Time and time again I am amazed by the weak feeble minded excuses and reasons we receive from the people behind HEAT. Matters that are basic common sense, decency and logic seem to evade them.  At times it feels incompetent, at times it feels bordering with more malicious intent.
Make no doubt about it, if there are grounds to investigate the actions and intentions of these individuals it will be pursued. There are laws and due process to take care of such incidents.
I hope it will not come to that, but rest assured it will if criminal actions or lack of lawful honest intent is present.
The more promises/commitments/contracts you brake, the worse you will end up at the end.
It is important for me to state that the above mentioned is referring not only to the delay in release (a thing that unfortunately is pretty common) but mostly to other matters which give a very bad impression to the way these individuals are tackling certain issues (what was said by them regarding the surplus coins is a good example of this).
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January 19, 2017, 03:03:36 PM
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So Dirk, can I have my money back now?
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January 19, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
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Whao that Heat launch was the best launch I have ever seen!



Launch date not met - check(twice)
Wallet not working. - check
Not hired anybody - check
No expense sheet delivered - check
Heat team trolling community - check
Community pissed off - check
No status update - check
Most features admittedly not implemented - check
Breach of ICO contract - check

I also love how they rather pushed an update to the website than working on the launch. The website seems to be so very important to them, even more important than any coin. I wonder why? Maybe to lure new morons into their second funding round? Who knows... It seems like they are pretty happy with this status quo where people can trade the non existent heat cooin on exchanges and they don't really need a blockchain...

Token transfer, Asset-to-asset exchange, private blockchain messaging at least are what we're aiming to enable.  And some sort of demi-centralized BTC gateway to be able to trade the BTC/HEAT pair with any fluency of moneyflow. The core p2p however still is under configuration, let's see how the rest of the night goes, we need to be pushing ahead like no other.

This was written on 18. Jan, yes, the date the launch was expected! On the same day you still don't know what features are enabled on your shitcoin! This leaves me speechless. Seriously I don't even want to comment on that. If still nobody sees the high level of pure retardation and incompetency then this is what this community deserves! Yes You get what you deserve people! I am done with that ugly smelling piece of shit called heat! I am tired of people telling me to shut up because they want no bad promotion so they hope people don't see how fucked up this coin is. I am tired of that desperation! I am done pointing out the obvious facts that this coin is a pile of horseshit and getting pissed on by stupid people still not recognizing that they have been scammed!

FUCK YOU HEAT!

Seriously are fucktards fucking kidding me!? How come everybody knew you would fuck it up again? You 2 disgust me, you are the worst fucking morons I have ever seen. Just give your investors their fucking money back! You are not even worth the memes I post. This incompetence was not met ever in history. My eyes start bleeding  when I see any of you two braintumors!

GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING MONEY!!!
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January 19, 2017, 03:18:19 PM
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Whao that Heat launch was the best launch I have ever seen!



Launch date not met - check(twice)
Wallet not working. - check
Not hired anybody - check
No expense sheet delivered - check
Heat team trolling community - check
Community pissed off - check
No status update - check
Most features admittedly not implemented - check
Breach of ICO contract - check

I also love how they rather pushed an update to the website than working on the launch. The website seems to be so very important to them, even more important than any coin. I wonder why? Maybe to lure new morons into their second funding round? Who knows... It seems like they are pretty happy with this status quo where people can trade the non existent heat cooin on exchanges and they don't really need a blockchain...

Token transfer, Asset-to-asset exchange, private blockchain messaging at least are what we're aiming to enable.  And some sort of demi-centralized BTC gateway to be able to trade the BTC/HEAT pair with any fluency of moneyflow. The core p2p however still is under configuration, let's see how the rest of the night goes, we need to be pushing ahead like no other.

This was written on 18. Jan, yes, the date the launch was expected! On the same day you still don't know what features are enabled on your shitcoin! This leaves me speechless. Seriously I don't even want to comment on that. If still nobody sees the high level of pure retardation and incompetency then this is what this community deserves! Yes You get what you deserve people! I am done with that ugly smelling piece of shit called heat! I am tired of people telling me to shut up because they want no bad promotion so they hope people don't see how fucked up this coin is. I am tired of that desperation! I am done pointing out the obvious facts that this coin is a pile of horseshit and getting pissed on by stupid people still not recognizing that they have been scammed!

FUCK YOU HEAT!

Seriously are fucktards fucking kidding me!? How come everybody knew you would fuck it up again? You 2 disgust me, you are the worst fucking morons I have ever seen. Just give your investors their fucking money back! You are not even worth the memes I post. This incompetence was not met ever in history. My eyes start bleeding  when I see any of you two braintumors!

GIVE ME BACK MY FUCKING MONEY!!!

Noone is giving you money. You took a risk investing in dangerous to invest crypto project. The project failed. You lost your money. Move on.
Noone is giving us money, that is true. In fact they gave us nothing. The best we all got were a few funny memes about 2 clowns smelling their own farts.
Yes we are moron. We should have know that we should not give money to retarded donkeys! They have scammed us, whatever, it's our own mistake, it is time to move on. Sorry to disappoint you all guys, but we have been scammed, there is nothing we can do, time to move on!
Seriously, your comment, your mindset, your attitude, your kind is what is wrong with this shit, this is what enables retards like the Heat assholes to scam people and rob their money, go play on the railroad you idiot!
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January 19, 2017, 03:28:00 PM
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Svante Lehtinen and Dennis are just laughing Grin

They managed to operate really successful scam, waiting for next one....
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January 19, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
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We're now past the most serious obstacles in the transition from inhouse tests to distributed p2p server configuration, and working on integrating the features mentioned previously ( - we also call the Asset-to-asset exchange barebones, as it's essential for the HEAT architecture despite not being considered basic feature generally). Due to the extra time required we've also had a few moments to think about the surplus 606k HEAT and conclude it's best to distribute it to stakeholders with the genesis block. Thus the genesis amounts posted last night will get approximately 2.5% extra added on top.

For the web wallet thin client we're configuring a new URL so alpha.heatledger.com should remain a testing ground.

         
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January 19, 2017, 03:36:27 PM
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Svante Lehtinen and Dennis are just laughing Grin

They managed to operate really successful scam, waiting for next one....

They have proven again and again that they are a complete failure, fully incompetent to get anything done!

If they seriously expect us to "just wait" and to "trust them" and "give them more time" they are out of their mind! What am I talking, they have already proven to be scamming morons!



I OFFICIALLY CALL HEAT A SCAM!



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