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January 29, 2017, 01:24:16 PM
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This is a brand new HEAT account, it will be used for donations: 15787342073542046562
... please send there a few coins
Strange, I can't sent, the web-wallet says: "No recipient public key".

Because it's a brand new account, public key is not published to the network yet.
Here is its public key: 5685521efbba8ddb63fb58e337bb5bbe62b22fa5784253137e871f6d54a61d44
a0e7741f68a7ed7ae4b4c03dff7fe4e01a9576256d0190e16dd0b5ccc4320f60
does the web wallet provide to enter the public key?

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January 29, 2017, 01:38:52 PM
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Because it's a brand new account, public key is not published to the network yet.
Here is its public key: 5685521efbba8ddb63fb58e337bb5bbe62b22fa5784253137e871f6d54a61d44
does the web wallet provide to enter the public key?
Not currently, however you can send to brand new accounts if you don't include a payment message.

         
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January 29, 2017, 02:13:45 PM
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it's true , agree with Eliphaz Fimk
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January 29, 2017, 02:38:07 PM
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Currently there is 58 peers on the network. I think this is a healthy number, and over time this number will probably rise as more nodes come online.

The amount of blocks generated for a given stake, are substantially higher than the result of the estimate from the calculator on heatpool.xyz
This is due to the calculator assuming 100% of 25 million coins are forging on the network. In reality, and as expected, only a fraction of coins held will be active.

In other words:

Forging profits are pretty profitable  Kiss


How do I know if I'm forging? I followed the instructions on this post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg17640079#msg17640079

and I got a value for deadline and hittime and then back to the  command prompt.

Does this mean I'm forging?

Also, on https://heatwallet.com/nodes.cgi I see "blacklisted":true against my IP. What does this mean?

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January 29, 2017, 03:00:01 PM
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Currently there is 58 peers on the network. I think this is a healthy number, and over time this number will probably rise as more nodes come online.

The amount of blocks generated for a given stake, are substantially higher than the result of the estimate from the calculator on heatpool.xyz
This is due to the calculator assuming 100% of 25 million coins are forging on the network. In reality, and as expected, only a fraction of coins held will be active.

In other words:

Forging profits are pretty profitable  Kiss


How do I know if I'm forging? I followed the instructions on this post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg17640079#msg17640079

and I got a value for deadline and hittime and then back to the  command prompt.

Does this mean I'm forging?

Also, on https://heatwallet.com/nodes.cgi I see "blacklisted":true against my IP. What does this mean?

HI, deadline and hittime definitely means that forging is on.

"blacklisted":true now means that you should update server. Version 0.9.0 is blacklisted.
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January 29, 2017, 03:38:46 PM
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Error: Internal Timeout

what's this about?
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January 29, 2017, 03:49:49 PM
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BTW, is anyone interested in playing poker with HEAT? I know a server ready to go if we get about 20 players lined up.
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January 29, 2017, 04:05:09 PM
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I followed the forging instructions and the server is running and supposed to be forging (got deadline and hitTime).  It has been running for about 40 min and there's no change (even a marginal change...) in the balance. perhaps it is not forging or should it take more time to see any reward?
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January 29, 2017, 04:34:51 PM
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I followed the forging instructions and the server is running and supposed to be forging (got deadline and hitTime).  It has been running for about 40 min and there's no change (even a marginal change...) in the balance. perhaps it is not forging or should it take more time to see any reward?
If about 2,750,000 heat are currently forging and there are 3,456 blocks per day, then you need approximately 800 heat to forge one block per day or approximately 19,000 to forge one block per hour.
If profitability is 0.4% per day it means that 3,456 * 8 / 0.004 = 6,912,000 heat are currently forging. With this amount, it means that 6,912,000 / 3,456 = 2000 heat are needed to forge one block per day or 48,000 to forge one per hour. It means that currently 36% of all heat are forging. That is good news - it means that profitability will in the worst case be 4-5% per month during the next 12 months. More likely it will stabilize in the range 5-10%.

I must say that is sound almost insane.
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January 29, 2017, 04:39:45 PM
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I followed the forging instructions and the server is running and supposed to be forging (got deadline and hitTime).  It has been running for about 40 min and there's no change (even a marginal change...) in the balance. perhaps it is not forging or should it take more time to see any reward?
If about 2,750,000 heat are currently forging and there are 3,456 blocks per day, then you need approximately 800 heat to forge one block per day or approximately 19,000 to forge one block per hour.
If profitability is 0.4% per day it means that 3,456 * 8 / 0.004 = 6,912,000 heat are currently forging. With this amount, it means that 6,912,000 / 3,456 = 2000 heat are needed to forge one block per day or 48,000 to forge one per hour. It means that currently 36% of all heat are forging. That is good news - it means that profitability will in the worst case be 4-5% per month during the next 12 months. More likely it will stabilize in the range 5-10%.

I must say that is sound almost insane.

haha, that is rediculous,
can;t wait to start forging
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January 29, 2017, 04:58:11 PM
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I followed the forging instructions and the server is running and supposed to be forging (got deadline and hitTime).  It has been running for about 40 min and there's no change (even a marginal change...) in the balance. perhaps it is not forging or should it take more time to see any reward?
If about 2,750,000 heat are currently forging and there are 3,456 blocks per day, then you need approximately 800 heat to forge one block per day or approximately 19,000 to forge one block per hour.
If profitability is 0.4% per day it means that 3,456 * 8 / 0.004 = 6,912,000 heat are currently forging. With this amount, it means that 6,912,000 / 3,456 = 2000 heat are needed to forge one block per day or 48,000 to forge one per hour. It means that currently 36% of all heat are forging. That is good news - it means that profitability will in the worst case be 4-5% per month during the next 12 months. More likely it will stabilize in the range 5-10%.

I must say that is sound almost insane.

haha, that is rediculous,
can;t wait to start forging
I think the numbers above are correct, and also backed up by my plot on the previous page. More pressure should be put on the exchanges to implement a withdrawal function of heat. By not offering this function, the exchanges are currently preventing investors a monthly return of 13%. It is good news for those who did not use exchanges in the ico, though.

That is true, because this is for us all. Everyone should be able to forge.

Your numbers gave me a new perspective to everything because I was about to sell a small portion below ICO-price. Now that I see the gold in my hands, I won't be doing that. Thank you gh2.
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January 29, 2017, 04:59:01 PM
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Currently there is 58 peers on the network. I think this is a healthy number, and over time this number will probably rise as more nodes come online.

The amount of blocks generated for a given stake, are substantially higher than the result of the estimate from the calculator on heatpool.xyz
This is due to the calculator assuming 100% of 25 million coins are forging on the network. In reality, and as expected, only a fraction of coins held will be active.

In other words:

Forging profits are pretty profitable  Kiss


How do I know if I'm forging? I followed the instructions on this post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg17640079#msg17640079

and I got a value for deadline and hittime and then back to the  command prompt.

Does this mean I'm forging?

Also, on https://heatwallet.com/nodes.cgi I see "blacklisted":true against my IP. What does this mean?

HI, deadline and hittime definitely means that forging is on.

"blacklisted":true now means that you should update server. Version 0.9.0 is blacklisted.

Oh..didnt know that. Thanks!

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January 29, 2017, 05:08:41 PM
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Is anyone selling? Want to buy about 0.9 BTC worth of HEAT at 3000 sat level. I guess noone is selling and everyone is forging?
Many are willing to sell, but for sure not at 3k sat.
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January 29, 2017, 05:21:01 PM
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7300 stas would be a price that would make me consider selling. For my 11,837.43784615 that would be 0,86413296 BTC.

I don't think the buywall by the Heat team will be near that.
Contact me if you're interested john312. We can use an escrow.
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January 29, 2017, 05:35:34 PM
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My banks interest rate is 0.6% P.A
Heat is 5% per month.
If the tech is good and you are holding 50,000 heat,
You are making around 2,500 heat per month,
That is 30,000 Heat per year ( estimation, i can't be bothered to do the compound interest calculation, this figure is actually slightly higher).

Lets say - and i know it sounds farfetched at the moment,
but lets imagine that Heat pulls it off & its market cap reaches 50 Million,
a) your $2600 stake is now worth 1 million dollars
b) after forging in year one,  you are making about $50,000 a month or $600,000 a year

Your overall Heat net worth from a small $2600 stake at the moment, after year one is worth about $1.6 million

We can even be more realistic and say that Heat achieves Waves market cap around $25million
That is still $800,000, from a $2600 stake at the moment + forging for one year.

The maths does look good.
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January 29, 2017, 05:53:31 PM
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Anybody who's willing to buy (with escrow) at 7300 sats is very welcome to contact me via PM.
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January 29, 2017, 05:59:43 PM
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My banks interest rate is 0.6% P.A
Heat is 5% per month.
If the tech is good and you are holding 50,000 heat,
You are making around 2,500 heat per month,
That is 30,000 Heat per year ( estimation, i can't be bothered to do the accumulative interest calculation).

Lets say - and i know it sounds farfetched at the moment,
but lets imagine that Heat pulls it off & its market cap reaches 50 Million,
a) your $2600 stake is now worth 1 million dollars
b) after forging in year one,  you are making about $50,000 a month or $600,000 a year

Your overall Heat net worth from a small $2600 stake at the moment, after year one is worth about $1.6 million

We can even be more realistic and say that Heat achieves Waves market cap around $25million
That is still $800,000, from a $2600 stake at the moment + forging for one year.

The maths look good.

I don't think your calculations are correct. The current market cap of heat is: 0.000073 btc/heat * $920/btc * 25,000,000 heat = $1,68 million
If hypothetically the market cap of heat would increase to $25 million, it means an increase of factor 15. So, your small stake of $2,600 would increase to $39,000 + value of forging - 5% per month gives 80% per year - so total value would be $70,000. There is a risk that all the new heat from the forging will create inflation, and that the price per heat may decrease because of this.

I think it will be much more important for the value that the devs keep adding new features, and that some new use-cases / partnerships are created which benefit from the scalability and the very high number of transactions per second (tps) which are possible. Imagine something like the first decentralized exchange built on top of heat, allowing for high-frequency trading. No other blockchain can currently do that (they all have too slow tps rates).

Yeah,
i got too excited...
basically scale it down by a factor of ten
the maths above would work with a $26,000 stake
which is 1% of Heat

maths still look good anyways


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January 29, 2017, 06:21:21 PM
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Still hoping for Alcurex to enable withdrawals so I can get in on the forging too.

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January 29, 2017, 06:24:31 PM
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I followed the forging instructions and the server is running and supposed to be forging (got deadline and hitTime).  It has been running for about 40 min and there's no change (even a marginal change...) in the balance. perhaps it is not forging or should it take more time to see any reward?
If about 2,750,000 heat are currently forging and there are 3,456 blocks per day, then you need approximately 800 heat to forge one block per day or approximately 19,000 to forge one block per hour.
If profitability is 0.4% per day it means that 3,456 * 8 / 0.004 = 6,912,000 heat are currently forging. With this amount, it means that 6,912,000 / 3,456 = 2000 heat are needed to forge one block per day or 48,000 to forge one per hour. It means that currently 36% of all heat are forging. That is good news - it means that profitability will in the worst case be 4-5% per month during the next 12 months. More likely it will stabilize in the range 5-10%.

I must say that is sound almost insane.

haha, that is rediculous,
can;t wait to start forging

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January 29, 2017, 06:27:19 PM
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Anybody who's willing to buy (with escrow) at 7300 sats is very welcome to contact me via PM.
Do you already have the escrow lined up? I tried to contact Yassin, but he is not answering. It would be good if we could establish an escrow which we could use for reasonably fast trading via PM's on this forum. It doesn't work if we have to wait until the next day to finalize the trade (things may change fast and people change their minds).
It's a free 2 of 3 multisig escrow "service" by the German user mezzomix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=51478).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456563.msg5033831#msg5033831

It works as follows:
He provides a public key that can be used by buyer/seller to establish a 2 out of 3 multisig adress. For the creation 3 public keys are enough. Only if either buyer or seller makes any problems he has to be contacted. If both parties fulfill their part he doesn't even have to be contacted and doesn't know about the trade, because buyer and seller can provide the 2 necessary signatures to transfer the BTC to the seller after the buyer received whatever was traded.
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