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Today at 04:13:13 PM
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 Of course it is true that many people try to explain through excuses that they are trying to fall but the meaning of this is that they are giving incomplete or fabricated reasons not to start investing in Bitcoin. We know that investing can be started with prudent funds and relevant and achievable goals are added there. However many of these people may have low discretionary income, but they can still think carefully and determine the amount for DCA from there. It is true that it is better to start now than to get tired of waiting for the decline and weaken your willpower, meaning that it will definitely be an optimistic and positive expression. A wise person said that after buying Bitcoin in 2014, it took three years to reach the new ATH which is now a small fraction. So even at this price, many can get excited and enjoy the new ATH which will be a small fraction even in a few years.

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I completely agree with you. In 2010,
0.003×1×123,000=369
0.003×2×123,000=738
0.003×3×123,000 =1107
0.003×4×123,000 =1476
0.003×5×123,000 =1845
0.003×6×123,000 =2214
0.003×7×123,000= 2583
0.003×8×123,000 =2952
0.003×9×123,000 =3321
 0.003×10×123,000 =3690$

Actually, you don't need a lot of money to invest.If someone had invested just $10, they would have had this much money today. I wish I had invested $100 at that time.  But anyway, there is no point in regretting, I will invest what I can now. After 10-20 years, such a picture will come before us again. So I would say there is no need to invest too much, invest according to your ability now. Whatever you invest, hold it for the long term, think of your money as deposited in the bank, hope success will come.
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Today at 04:15:27 PM
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You seem to NOT understand gold.

There is only one form of gold, and it is physical.  The representations of gold (digital or paper) is not real gold, and your calling it "modern" gold shows that you are trying to gloss over the whole idea of what is gold and shows that you don't know what is gold. 

The "digital" "paper" "modern" forms of gold are derivative products of gold, and in reality, each non-physical representation of gold is supposed to be backed up by actual physical gold, otherwise the claims on gold are inflating gold's supply - which is exactly a decent part of gold's current problems, its historical problems and even why paper money ended up winning out over gold..

In other words, there are likely 100s of claims of gold ounces for every gold ounce that actually exist.  That is a problem, and your lecturing about gold supposedly existing in some other form (other than physical) shows that you seem to want to just agree with your own deception about gold's supposed value.

Gold's physicality becomes part of its own undermining, since it can sometimes be difficult to take claim to the physical, and laymen also will frequently have troubles verifying gold, transporting it, handling it, safe keeping it.  Therefore, elaborate systems have been created to custody and verify gold, and even though many of us know that gold shenanigan's are taking place, 3rd party custodians attempt to gain credibility in terms of proclaiming that they actually have the gold that they claim to have.

Surely we recognize and appreciate that Bitcoin is digitally native, and so therefore bitcoin can be verified digitally and bitcoin's lack of physicality causes it to be easy to transport, store and verify... including to take possession of it in the event that there might be questions about whether any third party actually has the bitcoin that they claim to have.... yet these days there are still attempts to lock folks into contracts in which they cannot physically take possession of the actual bitcoin..

So bitcoin has a lot of derivative products as well that are likely attempting to manipulate bitcoin in similar ways as they did with gold, even though surely bitcoin is a lot more easy to transport, store, and verify, so even if there are going to be ongoing attempts to manipulate and fractionally reserve bitcoin, bitcoin will still provide challenges to those attempts - and it is not clear if bitcoin is going to suffer gold's same fate, yet we can still invest in bitcoin to the extent that we recognize and appreciate that it is superior to both gold and to paper money and also we might even assess bitcoin to be somewhere in the ballpark of 1,000x or more greater than gold.. even though today, bitcoin ONLY has an actual market price that is about 1/10th the size of gold's (if we compare the market caps of each of them).
You made great point that physical gold is only true form of gold and things like digital or paper gold are just stand ins that can make it look like there is more gold than there really is problem that even affected gold past. This is different from Bitcoin which is completely digital making it easy to check send and store without needing physical place or third party to hold it for you. While both gold and Bitcoin can have other products that try to control their price Bitcoin nature makes it harder to manipulate in same ways as gold showing it might be better option than both gold and regular money.
I think if we want to invest in a digital asset, my advice is to choose Bitcoin. Since its inception, Bitcoin has been a clearly digital investment asset. Gold, on the other hand, is a physical asset, so I don't think buying digital gold is a viable option. As far as I know, when investing in digital gold, we're only given transaction records on our phones, and we can't actually hold the gold. I don't think this is safe, as we're vulnerable to fraud. The data might show that we're buying gold, but in reality, the gold doesn't exist. Therefore, if we want to invest digitally, I think Bitcoin is the perfect choice. Although Bitcoin doesn't have a physical form, it has a robust blockchain system, which is decentralized, and when we buy Bitcoin, our Bitcoins are inviolable by others. That's why I personally prefer Bitcoin over gold when it comes to digital investments.
your point is very clear, trustless of these transparent nature of the bitcoin or blockchain it gives it clean view of  the edge when it comes to the digital investment with bitcoin we don't have to rely on the second or third party that promises you hope that asset we pay immediately. for digital gold often feels like figures on the screen with very low backing clarity, bitcoin may not be physical but its  can be of a security and decentralization that's speak  volumes , for anyone that's very serious  about investing in digitally  then bitcoin is smarter and very saver
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Today at 04:20:36 PM
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As I check Bitcoin's price and see that it has surged to another ALL TIME HIGH, I feel both happy and SAD.
Why?

Because the more it surges higher and higher from here, the higher possibility that we may never have the opportunity to buy Bitcoin below $100,000 again.

My next major Bitcoin purchase will be below $100,000 IF we are lucky to see it there again.

You should have regrets for waiting rather than buying, yet of course, when to wait and when to buy are personal choices.. and hopefully you were not sitting on too much cash waiting for a dip that did not end up happening.

I agree with you sir that buying of Bitcoin is base on any individual choices and yet some of the investors are still holding back watching and waiting for the dip that meant not end up happening anytime soon, my advise to all newbies and those investors that already have all the knowledge on how Bitcoin works should consider buying Bitcoin aggressively now than regretting later, all in the name of waiting for dip to happened. So it is very advisable to buy aggressively as far as the discretionary income is available.


Beneath, those waiting to buy at the Dip are investors whose discretionary incomes may not be impressive to buy at all times just as JJG  gave an accompany with Wind_FURY's future accumulation plans. Perhaps everyone knows when it is best time for them to buy and it is best known to them regardless of our emotions and the value of our ok incomes but while anyone may hope to buy on a specific Dip price, it might end regretting if the price never fall to the expected margin. So it is always better to buy at any price than never did because alas will end up not owning a single value or you probably may have spent the little on things that are rated below owning some fraction of bitcoin.
We can leave aggressive buying for the whalers or those with sufficient funds.

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Today at 04:26:36 PM
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None of us can ever say why the price of Bitcoin has increased. You may not be able to say when and why the price has increased. Yes, depending on the country's financial situation, the price of Bitcoin can sometimes increase. But we can never say that the price of Bitcoin has increased because of US President Trump. No one has ever had a hand in Bitcoin and will never have one. Bitcoin is decentralized.

But yes, for big people, the price of Bitcoin often increases. For example, many big people say bad things about Bitcoin, such as saying that Bitcoin is not good or something else. Then some people get scared after hearing them and start selling. But even after that, it can never be said why the price of Bitcoin is increasing.
As it stands any news we heard and whatever we feel that could be reason for the recent upsurge that made us to experience the recent ATH could be considered as speculation, we never can tell the real cause of the recent spike in price of Bitcoin, but just as it is, the current news about countries that has set out plans to make Bitcoin part of their national reserve could lead to the price pump, we all know the importance of US having Bitcoin as their national reserve, it means that bitcoin has been accepted fully in US and again many investors that were skeptical about it will want to come in for the fact that the government is now involved and you know what, many countries that are ally to US will want to follow that Foot step so don't you think this mindset alone could trigger the upsurge of Bitcoin, although just like as said all this are also speculations although they might be correct too.


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Today at 06:55:06 PM
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I agree that bitcoin is for everyone and anyone, yet there is a need for a discretionary income or an ability to grow a discretionary income in the cases that a person does not already have a discretionary income.

These matters of income inequality are not easy to overcome for some folks it is more challenging than others, and surely the poor people have to have fewer mistakes and to be more organized than the more well-off people, and so I am not going to proclaim that all poor people are responsible for their own situation, even though there could be some avenues for some of them to grow out of their predicament.

You may well be correct that some poor people are very irresponsible with their money and they have bad habits and bad money habits, which may well be true, and the direction out of their own bad habits and bad mindset is also not necessarily clear since even a poor person who is truly inclined towards the employment of good habits might not always know how to attack their various problems in such a way that will help them to rise into a higher income and/or social status, which will help them to get higher income or even to be in circles of folks with better information, and surely in a forum like this there are possibilities to be exposed to better information, yet there still are needs for people to learn from the information and act upon the information in a way that makes sense to themselves and their own circumstances, even if they might still need to unlearn some bad habits that they don't realize that they need to unlearn.

So true and i also believe that being poor is just a mindset of people who thinks they are not financially capable to invest in bitcoin because of the perspective they have in bitcoin investment. Most folks believes  they don’t have what it takes to venture into bitcoin investment financially, but deep down they really do have the financial ability to do so. Not that this people don’t have the discretionary income to start investing in bitcoin but they feel the income is not enough for bitcoin investment and at such most folks who are in this category tends to hold this  said money with them with a mindset that they are saving for a more higher income to be able to start investing in bitcoin, where as they can easily purchase a little fraction of bitcoin from it and hold until when they are also able to figure out another discretionary income and purchase from it also and hold gradually. The easiest way to become poor is having money, no matter how small or huge and keeping it with you without investing it, especially in bitcoin investment because here you don’t need very huge amounts of money to start investing in bitcoin, just a discretionary income and you’re good to go. So I think that once this category of people are able to overcome this kind of feeling about bitcoin investment they will be able to grow out of their predicament.
     


I agree with you. Because now that the price of Bitcoin has increased a lot, many people think that it is not possible to make a profit by buying Bitcoin for such a small amount of money. So they hope that they will save money and invest it when they have a lot of money. There are two problems here. The first problem is that those who are relatively financially disadvantaged cannot save money regularly if they want to. Because they keep having one problem after another and spending money. It will be seen that where it was possible to solve the problem without spending the money saved, but instead of doing that, they start breaking up the money saved and solving small problems. The second thing is, if we look at the past, we will see that even though the price of Bitcoin has gone up and down, it has always increased. So if someone waits for the current price of Bitcoin, thinking, "I'll invest when the money is more," then the price of Bitcoin will increase much more during this time Without waiting to save a huge amount before investing. If anyone change his mind set and simply start investing with little amount regularly. What they want to save for making huge amount. In this way they are not only investing in btc  also they are making profit at the same time . It will not happen if they only save money . Another thing that I think is that the price of Bitcoin is actually much lower now than it will be future. Although Bitcoin is currently at its highest price compared to the past, its price will be much higher in the future. If you are thinking of investing in Bitcoin, you should start doing it regularly from now on. A person can start investing in Bitcoin little by little with their discretionary income. Because if someone plans to invest in Bitcoin for the long term and starts investing now, they will definitely get much more profit in the future. Even though people now call Bitcoin digital gold, in a few years it will become digital diamond. One day Bitcoin will be the most valuable asset in the world. So we can make a lot more profit by investing and HODLing Bitcoin regularly. Those who bought some Bitcoin in 2020, HODL it for a short while, and sold it in 2022 are now realizing how sadness feelings  it is to not make a profit in 2025. So, even if you spend less money, you should continue investing in Bitcoin. The longer you can HODL, the more profit you will make. Just look at the rise of Bitcoin from 2012 to now and you can see where Bitcoin's valuation will be 5-10 years from now.

2012 - Lowest : $4.23 Highest : $13.52
2013 -  Lowest : $13.09 Highest : $1,132.00
2014 - Lowest : $311.07 Highest : $919.20      
2015 - Lowest : $165.07  Highest : $463.87
2016 - Lowest :  $367.98 Highest : $975.35   
2017 - Lowest : $786.05 Highest : $19,345.49
2018 - Lowest : $3,232.51 Highest P: $17,172.30
2019 - Lowest : $3,375.33 Highest : $12,913.28
2020 - Lowest : $4,916.78 Highest : $28,972.40
2021 - Lowest : $29,388.94  Highest : $67,549.14
2022 - Lowest : $15,760.19 Highest : $47,737.35
2023 - Lowest : $16,613.87 Highest : $44,186.18
2024 - Lowest : $39,555.05 Highest : $106,142.51
2025 – all time Highest today $120,000

Source https://charts.bitbo.io/price/

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Today at 09:35:45 PM
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2012 - Lowest : $4.23 Highest : $13.52
2013 -  Lowest : $13.09 Highest : $1,132.00
2014 - Lowest : $311.07 Highest : $919.20      
2015 - Lowest : $165.07  Highest : $463.87
2016 - Lowest :  $367.98 Highest : $975.35   
2017 - Lowest : $786.05 Highest : $19,345.49
2018 - Lowest : $3,232.51 Highest P: $17,172.30
2019 - Lowest : $3,375.33 Highest : $12,913.28
2020 - Lowest : $4,916.78 Highest : $28,972.40
2021 - Lowest : $29,388.94  Highest : $67,549.14
2022 - Lowest : $15,760.19 Highest : $47,737.35
2023 - Lowest : $16,613.87 Highest : $44,186.18
2024 - Lowest : $39,555.05 Highest : $106,142.51
2025 – all time Highest today $120,000


When it comes to bitcoin all we should be seeing is a more buying opportunity even at ATH level because your data provided says it all. The highest value price got to in 2023 is very close to the minimum price level in 2024 while its peak price is times 2 of the highest high in 2023. Same for 2020 and 2021 however this is confirmation that buying at ATH is not a bad choice as most people would put it, those new investors who are just beginning to get exposed to bitcoin or start having investment mindset towards bitcoin due to it's ATH breaking can still enter into the market today and hold for a long period of time. Even if price doesn't double just like other times within a year span holding for more than 2 cycles can give them a worthy profit especially when they apply DCA or continually buying.

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