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July 04, 2017, 06:42:25 AM
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Does that mean that all funds are now going to Gamma project instead of increasing Xaurum gold reserves? What does that mean for existing Xaurum holders? Will there be no mint for 2 months or even more because ICO of Gamma project will be open?

If this is the case and funds are now going to Gamma project instead of increasing Xaurum gold reserves, then I see this as a threat to Xaurum holders. Like stabing them in the back...
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July 04, 2017, 07:00:53 AM
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As far as I understand ICO will fund the construction of villas. Xaurum is stand alone project which also benefits from Gamma project since half of the profit from Gamma is spent on buying gold. Therefore Gamma is just the add-on to Xaurum holders?

Dev please comment my understanding and mybe explain what Gamma brings to existing xaurum holders a little bit further. Thank you.
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July 04, 2017, 07:11:22 AM
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If Xaurum team is now focusing only on this Gamma project instead of actively working on increasing Xaurum gold reserves, increasing market capitalization, marketing...then I have serious doubts. I have been a huge supporter for Xaurum till now, but now I am not sure any more...
Yes, long term, Xaurum will benefit from many projects, but what about in the mean time? Will we be stuck at current market cap and price for another year as long as this villas are building?
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July 04, 2017, 07:26:58 AM
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There are alot of questions but devs will give explanation soon. Gamma is a supporting project for xaurum, devs are focused on xaurum project this is the main project, gamma is just a supporting project where all we can benefit, new investors and existing xaurum holders.
Dtacken im sure when you will understand what gamma is you will be more than happy and you will like devs vision of xaurum.
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July 04, 2017, 07:44:58 AM
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- Dtacken they are focusing on everything. But there is a lot of work to do. We need to be patient.  
- Xaurum is and it will stay the boss.
- Andone3 you are right. Its 50% 50%. Half of the profit goes for buying new gold for Xaurum and the other half for building new villas.
- dtacken in the mean time part of Xaurum team (about 60 people) is still working on promotion of Xaurum and bringing new investors in.
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July 04, 2017, 07:52:47 AM
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If Xaurum team is now focusing only on this Gamma project instead of actively working on increasing Xaurum gold reserves, increasing market capitalization, marketing...then I have serious doubts. I have been a huge supporter for Xaurum till now, but now I am not sure any more...
Yes, long term, Xaurum will benefit from many projects, but what about in the mean time? Will we be stuck at current market cap and price for another year as long as this villas are building?

Be sure that they know what are they doing, so before they launched the new project GAMA they did brainstorming with questions you gave here since these are basic questions so they considered in that way. I know they did this project to support Xaurum not in order to weaken it. Let's try to think in business way and in long run.
Don't think just about yourself and how to do it 100% in profit in one month, but think about healthy Eco System which could work for ever.
Xaurum is a currency which could be out there forever not just for 2 years and in the meantime someones would like to make 1000% in profit, no that is not the first goal. Why ? Because it is not Healthy like is not healthy if a child grows in one week half one meter that is not organic the same is with cancer when the cells start to reproduce in a fast way the organ is getting ill.
So each growth which is not organic can not survive in a long run. We just need to consider laws of nature and everything is gonna be good.

The biggest problem is the greed of the mankind. It's not enough 10% in profit, everyone would like to have 2000% in a week. Is that healthy if you think more deeply about it?
Let's get another example from nature. When the dog is hungry how much he eats? Until that he is no longer hungry. Whan mankind does? They eat Pizza and he is no longer hungry, but there is looking good a sweet so they eat a sweet, then behind the corner, they see ice cream they eat ice cream and the end of the day he has a problem with the stomach and they said uff next time I will eat just pizza, but after a while they do the same again, so where is the point?

I just want that we are aware what we wish, because in the long run comes back duplicated and tripled. Don't be just greedy let's think about how to change the world in better way! But in this way, we need to always take out our selfish wishes. We need to always think about what is good for the community and in a long run.

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July 04, 2017, 08:13:58 AM
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Gamma Web Update

We have released some more details about the Gamma Project on the website. We'll post about Xaurum and Gamma promotion in the coming week, along with some additional information about the project. We're working on transparency (team names pictures on the webiste) and will be answering your questions about the project. All the detailed legal information will be availiable when the project starts.

Thank you! Still lacks some more info about the ownerships etc. but it's okay for now to give it support.
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July 04, 2017, 08:29:56 AM
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Projects like gamma will only increase the value of xaurum. And xaurum gets purchasing power. Somebody can pay their own holidays with xaurum. You have increased base value plus rent money...I think it is only positive for xaurum.
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July 04, 2017, 09:10:31 AM
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Gamma Web Update

We have released some more details about the Gamma Project on the website. We'll post about Xaurum and Gamma promotion in the coming week, along with some additional information about the project. We're working on transparency (team names pictures on the webiste) and will be answering your questions about the project. All the detailed legal information will be availiable when the project starts.

Thank you.
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July 04, 2017, 09:15:50 AM
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Lets do some math. Tourist season in Croatia starts in May and ends in September. Thats 5 months. If the villa can host 8 guests and if the price for one night will be around 150$ per person thats 1200$ per day. 5 months = 150 days. Of course its not gonna be full all the time so let's say its gonna be full for about 120 days. 6 villas x 120 days = 720 days.

720 days x 1200$ = 864.000$
The guests will also spend some money on different rentals.
One season with 6 villas = 1.000.000$
500.000$ goes in gold and the other 500.000$ goes for next new villa. So every 2 years there will be new villa automatically.
Thats just my example. I hope that I didn't right something wrong.
And one another important factor. All Xaurum spent for renting the villa and other stuff goes to burn. So every year less Xaurum but more gold.
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July 04, 2017, 09:46:07 AM
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http://www.autobroker.si/prodaja-vozil/si/i/lamborghini-huracan-dozivetje.php

Its in Slovenian language but another great idea. You can rent cars from autobroker only with Xaurum.
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July 04, 2017, 09:48:00 AM
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- Dtacken they are focusing on everything. But there is a lot of work to do. We need to be patient.  
- Xaurum is and it will stay the boss.
- Andone3 you are right. Its 50% 50%. Half of the profit goes for buying new gold for Xaurum and the other half for building new villas.
- dtacken in the mean time part of Xaurum team (about 60 people) is still working on promotion of Xaurum and bringing new investors in.

I have to strongly object the first point! You can not have focus on everything! Main rule of business. If you focus on everything, you are somewhere in average in everything and nowhere top. Do we want this? You have to focus on one thing to really make it something special.

Now lets take working time of developers into the calculation. Time spent on gamma is time not spent on xaurum (main thing). Sure, gamma will bring some profit, but wouldn't it be better to spend time to bring xaurum to new markets? This would bring a lot more benefit to community than slow gamma with villas. Lets say developers took one month for gamma. In one month we could bring xaurum to Austria for example (doubling the market cap soon, in my opinion). When will gamma double the market cap?

In my opinion the gamma is ok, but should be played when the promotion and new countries are well covered. The "slow" gamma now, stops us in more profitable areas. Each person has only 24h a day (minus sleep and personal life...). Each hour spent on gamma is bad for xaurum marketing, new offices, corrected web pages, grammar (image as a whole). Sometimes xaurum really looks like half serious project. Lets bring the xaurum (gold) to its full potential (or at least 80%) before we start another project. Will gamma also be stopped at 20% because new idea will arise? Sorry guys but this doesn't look professional and promising. You are jumping from one flower to another. Was this idea ever written in the vision of xaurum or was this ICO idea just created and done without thinking on a vision? Can we read anywhere the vision or future goals? What are the next steps? Investors are left in the dark in this area.

I think some comments (concerns) in this forum are very good and the developers should answer them (not the promotors, but the developers!).
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July 04, 2017, 10:02:27 AM
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Lets do some math. Tourist season in Croatia starts in May and ends in September. Thats 5 months. If the villa can host 8 guests and if the price for one night will be around 150$ per person thats 1200$ per day. 5 months = 150 days. Of course its not gonna be full all the time so let's say its gonna be full for about 120 days. 6 villas x 120 days = 720 days.

720 days x 1200$ = 864.000$
The guests will also spend some money on different rentals.
One season with 6 villas = 1.000.000$
500.000$ goes in gold and the other 500.000$ goes for next new villa. So every 2 years there will be new villa automatically.
Thats just my example. I hope that I didn't right something wrong.
And one another important factor. All Xaurum spent for renting the villa and other stuff goes to burn. So every year less Xaurum but more gold.

Nice example. I think It's a great thing for Xaurum and in long term also very profitable for Gama holders. I will for sure support it.
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July 04, 2017, 10:58:47 AM
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- Dtacken they are focusing on everything. But there is a lot of work to do. We need to be patient.  
- Xaurum is and it will stay the boss.
- Andone3 you are right. Its 50% 50%. Half of the profit goes for buying new gold for Xaurum and the other half for building new villas.
- dtacken in the mean time part of Xaurum team (about 60 people) is still working on promotion of Xaurum and bringing new investors in.

If 60 people is really working on promotion and bringing new investors in, I would like to know if they are persuading new investors to invest in Xaurum or Gamma project? They cannot persuade to do them both. If you want to invest 10k USD, you can either invest in one thing or another. If you want to split it and invest some money in Xaurum and some in Gamma, then that is bad for Xaurum at this moment. Period. We could have more gold right now if investors will invest in Xaurum directly, but this cannot happen if we will have to wait for another year or two for villas to be built.

Can someone explain the ownership of the Gamma project? Is Auresco Institute in charge of Gamma project? Or is this Gamma project just an idea of one people who was (or is) working in Xaurum team and Xuaurum team is now working with hand in hand with him (them)?

I am still a huge suporter of Xaurum at the moment and I still own a lot of Xaurums. But as an investor I currently see this Gamma project as a threat because Xaurum gold increasing will now slow down.
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July 04, 2017, 11:29:43 AM
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dtacken, be patient and wait for whitepapers. Smiley

Xaurum Gamma is only going to help Xaurum and won't slow it down. The money for Xaurum Gamma has been almost entirely secured already.

No need to worry about that so much. And besides - Xaurum is expanding and slowly going global, so chances are we will see much more rapid growth in the upcoming months till YE 2017.

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i don´t think the gold increasing will slow down because of gamma. 60 promotros are working to promote xaurum, for gamma there will be ICO no need to seek for new investors, promotors promote xaurum. I think GAMMA is a great idea in meanwhile we should not sleep, we should help xaurum to grew by marketcap and by gold of course.
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July 04, 2017, 11:40:43 AM
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dtacken, be patient and wait for whitepapers. Smiley

Xaurum Gamma is only going to help Xaurum and won't slow it down. The money for Xaurum Gamma has been almost entirely secured already.

No need to worry about that so much. And besides - Xaurum is expanding and slowly going global, so chances are we will see much more rapid growth in the upcoming months till YE 2017.

It will slow it down because people will have to work on it and not on other things about xaurum that should be solved long ago.

A question about "The money for Xaurum Gamma has been almost entirely secured already." How is this possible? ICO is starting next week... Either this is a false statement or some insiders have special offer (special treatment), which is never the idea of ICO (initial coin offering). Please explain!
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July 04, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
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And yes 60 people are working strictly on xaurum marketing so there is no need to worry that they will loose their focus with gama project. In my opinion gama does not need no big marketing. It will be sold out anyways because it is great project. But that is just my opinion based on general interest in it.

I think by "secured already" he meant that there is great interest in gama project already.
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July 04, 2017, 11:51:12 AM
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Lets do some math. Tourist season in Croatia starts in May and ends in September. Thats 5 months. If the villa can host 8 guests and if the price for one night will be around 150$ per person thats 1200$ per day. 5 months = 150 days. Of course its not gonna be full all the time so let's say its gonna be full for about 120 days. 6 villas x 120 days = 720 days.

720 days x 1200$ = 864.000$
The guests will also spend some money on different rentals.
One season with 6 villas = 1.000.000$
500.000$ goes in gold and the other 500.000$ goes for next new villa. So every 2 years there will be new villa automatically.
Thats just my example. I hope that I didn't right something wrong.
And one another important factor. All Xaurum spent for renting the villa and other stuff goes to burn. So every year less Xaurum but more gold.

Very optimistic calculation, but ok.

Now compare this to new market opportunities. 1M in a year is small change compared to investments that serious new country would bring. Developers should concentrate on Middle east, Russia, China, Germany, France and not on +1M in a year. Be serious here. Gamma is OK when those countries are covered, billions are walking past xaurum now.
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July 04, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
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Guys, if you have any ideas for rapid growth of Xaurum and want to get involved why don't you engage directly with dev team? Smiley I am sure they will embrace any help.

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