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[LegendsofTomorrow]

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More deflection attempts with false analogy
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The 1.8 BTC was perfectly safe where it was. A crash in the fiat price of BTC still leaves 1.8 BTC in the deposit address.

If you wanted to trade 1.8 BTC-worth of coins so you could make a profit for your investors out of the market movements you were supposed to use 1.8 of your own bitcoin to do so, according to your own words in the OP and throughout this thread, and then give the profit to the investors, leaving their 1.8 BTC sitting happily, untouched, in the deposit address, as you originally and repeatedly assured everybody would be the case.

This was not the case. So you need to edit out all your many claims in this thread that you will leave investor funds untouched, because clearly that is a lie.

we prefer to let it as it is and put a reference to this thread for misunderstanding to be cleared.

compared to your logic, we take the interest of our investors first. not let them drown with the funds invested.

investment was done from our wallets.

bitfinex hack was unexpected. however after the hack was made public it was obvious the price will crash then restabilize thus the action undertaken was in the interest of our investors not our own. had they said not to convert to usd and keep it in btc, it would have been done. but they understood the reason of us doing it and thus it was done. with their consent.

now coming back to the negative trust you put. i would request you to neutral it rather than leave it negative. however if it stays negative, then we will surely have to have a mod intervention to clear the air and he might understand better what you did not.

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[cryptodevil]

Of course you prefer to leave it as it is, the whole point of your platform's supposedly 'unique' claim towards proving legitimacy was by way of stating you wouldn't use investor deposits for anything and that they would remain untouched for everyone to see at all times.

But that claim is not true.

So by electing to keep it you are lying to everybody who reads it, including potential new investors.

That is the act of seeking investment funds through false misrepresentation, otherwise known as the crime of fraud.

You need to remove all statements which assert you will not use investor funds, because it is not true.

[tmfp]

you would excuse me but the investors are fully aware of the move and they know the reason for it. so if youre not an investor of the system, you could not know about informations that are shared. correct?

That depends on how reliable you want the information that you post in this thread to be.
And yeah, I'll excuse you this time.

But not again.
I'm sure you consider yourself to be smartly negating questions with your circular replies and ad hominems, but as it all seems to be made up as you go along I doubt that many outside observers would agreed with you.
Apart from, maybe, your investors who aren't investors that you trade for but don't trade for with their money your money.

Reading back, your whole bizarre gambit with claims of substantial capital so "we don't need your investment" becomes more and more absurd.
As was remarked earlier, this should be in "Investor Games" for the amount of credibility it has, but I guess doesn't qualify because of the low returns (unless someone decides to drop you 50+ btc, of course. That you don't need).

the 1.8btc moved was NOT used for trading....we sold at 650ish and rebought at 490-500.

WTF do you call it then?

[LegendsofTomorrow]

you would excuse me but the investors are fully aware of the move and they know the reason for it. so if youre not an investor of the system, you could not know about informations that are shared. correct?

That depends on how reliable you want the information that you post in this thread to be.
And yeah, I'll excuse you this time.

But not again.
I'm sure you consider yourself to be smartly negating questions with your circular replies and ad hominems, but as it all seems to be made up as you go along I doubt that many outside observers would agreed with you.
Apart from, maybe, your investors who aren't investors that you trade for but don't trade for with their money your money.

Reading back, your whole bizarre gambit with claims of substantial capital so "we don't need your investment" becomes more and more absurd.
As was remarked earlier, this should be in "Investor Games" for the amount of credibility it has, but I guess doesn't qualify because of the low returns (unless someone decides to drop you 50+ btc, of course. That you don't need).

the 1.8btc moved was NOT used for trading....we sold at 650ish and rebought at 490-500.

WTF do you call it then?

we consider it our investors best interest not trading.

[cryptodevil]

we consider it our investors best interest not trading.

It was your in your investors best interests to trade btc to USD and back again.

But you were supposed to do it with your 1.8 btc on their behalf, not their 1.8 btc which was supposedly never going to be touched for any of your services according to you.

So, with regards to your negative rating which is currently serving to alert people to your demonstrably untrustworthy actions, if you wish it removed you have to edit out all claims to how you will use your own funds for your services and leave theirs untouched. Because it isn't true.

Or you could open a complaint thread about your rating in a futile attempt to continue deflecting from your lies.

The choice is yours.

[LegendsofTomorrow]

we consider it our investors best interest not trading.

It was your in your investors best interests to trade btc to USD and back again.

But you were supposed to do it with your 1.8 btc on their behalf, not their 1.8 btc which was supposedly never going to be touched for any of your services according to you.

So, with regards to your negative rating which is currently serving to alert people to your demonstrably untrustworthy actions, if you wish it removed you have to edit out all claims to how you will use your own funds for your services and leave theirs untouched. Because it isn't true.

Or you could open a complaint thread about your rating in a futile attempt to continue deflecting from your lies.

The choice is yours.

you are very confused.

we could have not done anything and let the 1.8 remain 1.8 rather than instant convert it and give the investors back more. however let me remind you that you are crying about 1.8btc being moved. we have proved over 50btc each in several wallets. in your opinion that 1.8btc being moved is the problem or you are trying to find an issue and make it look like its a problem.

let me remind you that nobody has claimed being scammed till now. if that was the case, after our investors see your post they would have immediately backed out and publicly claim the funds. however that wasnt done.

you are in total denial about us. you may have been a good user to bust scams and what else, but this time you have hit a road block.

[cryptodevil]

we have proved over 50btc each in several wallets.

What's the point of all those proofs of hundreds of bitcoin at your disposal if you aren't actually going to use them for the very thing you claimed you would?

like all of our services we provide, we will issue payouts, withdrawals and investments using our own funds.

So if you receive 50 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 50 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 50 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

Likewise, if you receive 1.8 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 1.8 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 1.8 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

The only roadblock I have hit is your dishonesty and weasel-words.

The negative rating will remain as you are patently untrustworthy and a proven liar.

Feel free to open up a butt-hurt thread to whine loudly about the perceived injustice of being held accountable for your actions.

[zazarb]

From the beginning I did not understand OP statement, that deposit investor will be untouched, what's the point take 1.8BTC and keep untouched And In addition to pay weekly interest.

[extrabyte]

Now where is Lauda and His Ace signature Team? who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
@cryptodevil and @Lutpin ! don't you guys think they should be also blamed for promoting a Ponzi site? or this thing only apply on newbies and low ranked users? Staff members are free to do anything?

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

[LegendsofTomorrow]

Now where is Lauda and His Ace signature Team? who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one told them a single word?
@cryptodevil and @Lutpin ! don't you guys think they should be also blamed for promoting a Ponzi site? or this thing only apply on newbies and low ranked users? Staff members are free to do anything?

we are still working smooth without complaints and are even in more projects...

your accusation is irrelevant

[cryptodevil]

Now where is Lauda and His Ace signature Team? who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one told them a single word?
@cryptodevil and @Lutpin ! don't you guys think they should be also blamed for promoting a Ponzi site? or this thing only apply on newbies and low ranked users? Staff members are free to do anything?

we are still working smooth without complaints and are even in more projects...

your accusation is irrelevant

You answering for yourself or Ace?

[LegendsofTomorrow]

Now where is Lauda and His Ace signature Team? who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one told them a single word?
@cryptodevil and @Lutpin ! don't you guys think they should be also blamed for promoting a Ponzi site? or this thing only apply on newbies and low ranked users? Staff members are free to do anything?

we are still working smooth without complaints and are even in more projects...

your accusation is irrelevant

You answering for yourself or Ace?

why would we answer for Ace? o.O
no, we are answering for ourselves.

[Quickseller]

Now where is Lauda [...] who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
[...]

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

[LegendsofTomorrow]

Now where is Lauda [...] who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
[...]

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

anything been claimed from us yet?
scam?
theft?
gone MIA?

stop picking at ACE and LOT for your personal issues with a user.

also, there is no connection to Lauda. he had a service. we hired. they checked. and thats it

in your mind you are not understanding why we are still here and no one claimed being stolen. thats why you try keep this thread alive as much as you can.

[Anduck]

So if you receive 50 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 50 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 50 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

Likewise, if you receive 1.8 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 1.8 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 1.8 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

Investments are usually sought because they don't have own funds to do the business. Anyway, invested funds are invested funds - not to be mixed up with any other funds. It's only obvious that invested money will move around while doing the business with it.

Now where is Lauda [...] who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
[...]

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

Quickseller is on the trolling mood again. LoT simply used ACEs services, that's it. When ACE members checked LoT there was no scammy stuff going on - at least I don't recall seeing anything like that.

LoT certainly looks scammish right now with this 1%/week & 12%/month thingie. Things have apparently changed.

[Lutpin]

Now where is Lauda and His Ace signature Team? who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
@cryptodevil and @Lutpin ! don't you guys think they should be also blamed for promoting a Ponzi site? or this thing only apply on newbies and low ranked users? Staff members are free to do anything?

What's my stake in this exactly? :O

[shifty252]

So, want to clear the scam accusations?

Then all you got to do is make sure my withdraw from your exchange gets sent, as it stuck in pending for 2+ days now.

If you don't, then we'll all know you're just a small time scammer, until then i'll give you the benefit of doubt, as in innocent until proven guilty.

Let me know which one it is

Now where is Lauda [...] who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
[...]

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

anything been claimed from us yet?
scam?
theft?
gone MIA?

stop picking at ACE and LOT for your personal issues with a user.

also, there is no connection to Lauda. he had a service. we hired. they checked. and thats it

in your mind you are not understanding why we are still here and no one claimed being stolen. thats why you try keep this thread alive as much as you can.

[LegendsofTomorrow]

So, want to clear the scam accusations?

Then all you got to do is make sure my withdraw from your exchange gets sent, as it stuck in pending for 2+ days now.

If you don't, then we'll all know you're just a small time scammer, until then i'll give you the benefit of doubt, as in innocent until proven guilty.

Let me know which one it is

Now where is Lauda [...] who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
[...]

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

anything been claimed from us yet?
scam?
theft?
gone MIA?

stop picking at ACE and LOT for your personal issues with a user.

also, there is no connection to Lauda. he had a service. we hired. they checked. and thats it

in your mind you are not understanding why we are still here and no one claimed being stolen. thats why you try keep this thread alive as much as you can.

we have closed the exchange service as it was not running and found many bugs. we dropped the project weeks ago. in any case the whole project is under discussion and we will probably sell it. buyer contacted us already.

however let me know what deposit and what transaction you made and i will get it sorted out.

if the buyer agrees on the amount we are going to sell all 4 projects within the next week. we also made sure the project is rebranded within end of this year.

p.s; quickseller and anors will continue the hate rant as usual, but its okay. life goes on with or without them

[shifty252]

Scam confirmed.

This is the withdraw
2016-10-05 03:29:35   1.49925 DASH   XbzVogLkeKcqH8Qw5Dut2AWEUJqxArM5gp   Pending

Since there are no warnings/info that the exchange is closed/dropped and IT DOES accept deposits and new user registrations, then it's only SCAM!

Wrap it any way you want, in the end it is just a scam

PS: the only anon here is you begging for money. Quickseller has good history on this forum, my account is 3 years old, yours is very shady

So, want to clear the scam accusations?

Then all you got to do is make sure my withdraw from your exchange gets sent, as it stuck in pending for 2+ days now.

If you don't, then we'll all know you're just a small time scammer, until then i'll give you the benefit of doubt, as in innocent until proven guilty.

Let me know which one it is

Now where is Lauda [...] who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
[...]

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

anything been claimed from us yet?
scam?
theft?
gone MIA?

stop picking at ACE and LOT for your personal issues with a user.

also, there is no connection to Lauda. he had a service. we hired. they checked. and thats it

in your mind you are not understanding why we are still here and no one claimed being stolen. thats why you try keep this thread alive as much as you can.

we have closed the exchange service as it was not running and found many bugs. we dropped the project weeks ago. in any case the whole project is under discussion and we will probably sell it. buyer contacted us already.

however let me know what deposit and what transaction you made and i will get it sorted out.

if the buyer agrees on the amount we are going to sell all 4 projects within the next week. we also made sure the project is rebranded within end of this year.

p.s; quickseller and anors will continue the hate rant as usual, but its okay. life goes on with or without them

[LegendsofTomorrow]

Scam confirmed.

This is the withdraw
2016-10-05 03:29:35   1.49925 DASH   XbzVogLkeKcqH8Qw5Dut2AWEUJqxArM5gp   Pending

Since there are no warnings/info that the exchange is closed/dropped and IT DOES accept deposits and new user registrations, then it's only SCAM!

Wrap it any way you want, in the end it is just a scam

PS: the only anon here is you begging for money. Quickseller has good history on this forum, my account is 3 years old, yours is very shady

So, want to clear the scam accusations?

Then all you got to do is make sure my withdraw from your exchange gets sent, as it stuck in pending for 2+ days now.

If you don't, then we'll all know you're just a small time scammer, until then i'll give you the benefit of doubt, as in innocent until proven guilty.

Let me know which one it is

Now where is Lauda [...] who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
[...]

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

anything been claimed from us yet?
scam?
theft?
gone MIA?

stop picking at ACE and LOT for your personal issues with a user.

also, there is no connection to Lauda. he had a service. we hired. they checked. and thats it

in your mind you are not understanding why we are still here and no one claimed being stolen. thats why you try keep this thread alive as much as you can.

we have closed the exchange service as it was not running and found many bugs. we dropped the project weeks ago. in any case the whole project is under discussion and we will probably sell it. buyer contacted us already.

however let me know what deposit and what transaction you made and i will get it sorted out.

if the buyer agrees on the amount we are going to sell all 4 projects within the next week. we also made sure the project is rebranded within end of this year.

p.s; quickseller and anors will continue the hate rant as usual, but its okay. life goes on with or without them

kid, if you want to play a game, buy a jigsaw puzzle of 4 pieces and play.
the dash address has received no transaction as it does not exist. maybe you deposited another currency, but even though, no deposit was made on any of our address.
as for the "my account is 3 year old" the last post before 4th august 2016 is 17 august 2015.  the 4th august post is in a giveaway thread of 1000btc. that shows a lot of your character
i can buy a 2011 account and say my account is 5years old. that is the dumbest line you said, made me go through your past posts. the admins told me to send you the few bucks you are begging for even if you are trying to scam accuse us in hope of getting it for free. however, after a little research on your profile. i can honestly tell you to GTFO
you are trying to scam $10ish.. you must be desperate. very desperate.