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September 28, 2016, 01:32:22 PM |
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I want to know who that idiot is. He's appeared on all the pictures. We need to know if he's an actor or if it is actually ze scammer  Find the actor by tracing IP addresses, I'm sure he's not the scammer . Also find the T-Shirt printer. |
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djank
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September 28, 2016, 01:32:23 PM |
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Luisen-Gymnasium Gymnasium school in Düsseldorf, Germany Address: Bastionstraße 24, 40213 Düsseldorf, Germany Phone: +49 211 8998570
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September 28, 2016, 01:35:19 PM |
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I want to know who that idiot is. He's appeared on all the pictures. We need to know if he's an actor or if it is actually ze scammer Find the actor by tracing IP addresses, I'm sure he's not the scammer . Also find the T-Shirt printer. Hopefully, this "actor" will be able to provide some info on who exactly hired him. Also the T-shirt Printer, maybe. |
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September 28, 2016, 01:36:04 PM |
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I want to know who that idiot is. He's appeared on all the pictures. We need to know if he's an actor or if it is actually ze scammer Find the actor by tracing IP addresses, I'm sure he's not the scammer . Also find the T-Shirt printer. Maybe the cloth is also photoshoped, the actor is hired from a freelancer website, I am pretty sure. Just costs 100 bucks.  |
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scambust
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September 28, 2016, 01:37:18 PM |
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Yes removing the shamest signature on bitcointalk, even if the tokens are released, nobody wants to list this scam coin on their exchanges, the scammer dev will not have any communication to the public now. Sorry for the guys who invest on this, that guy in pictures is easy to find. What a stupid guy, if that photoshopped picture are not released, he stil can run this scam till the end, Glad he made a mistake posting it. Hack the https://forum.declouds.com/ and slack channel, the ips are stored on it, im sure he have made it more mistakes, by logging from his house. |
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trademark
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September 28, 2016, 01:48:43 PM |
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Is SEBASTIAN SCHROEDER a real person?
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September 28, 2016, 01:53:10 PM |
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Well... I did not await this but I think I have to make this post not as a warning but with informational character only. Everyone should think what he wants of my post.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
This is exactly the reason why I asked how the Escrow was arranged. The escow information in the OP only came up after I mentioned it, yet no one seemed bothered to ask this.( is anyone still thinking rationally or just ignorantly focussing on money?) It is a terrible idea that someone calls this an "escrow" yet the escrow key-holders have ties with the dev team. This is not how escrow works. I'm not saying they wont, but if the devs don't deliver say goodbye to your btc. pathetic that such lowlife people exist... Funny whenever you start asking questions, you're immediately called FUDer, negative person, and sometimes even threaten with banning, or other stuff. No one wants to listen, but they only see lambos, and millions in their pockets. There're still many potential scams in progress right now in crypto - you'll see it soon, and I guess your bodies are ready  Yep, that's exactly what happened. Still I don't think the investors deserved it. |
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September 28, 2016, 01:54:12 PM |
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September 28, 2016, 01:58:59 PM |
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fr4nkthetank
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
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September 28, 2016, 02:12:40 PM |
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happy witch hunt boys, I invested dust-ish amounts, but did translate a page which I would like payment for. Seems the scam isnt of 300btc imo https://blockchain.info/address/3Do7YvJFrBkNufPCuoKQjBqnFNXjna6fWq?offset=0&filter=0300-100-50-37= a bit over 100 btc I suppose, since I dont believe those initial deposits are real. hopefully arent real, but the scammers own funds to get the thing going. watch those coins. |
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trademark
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September 28, 2016, 02:19:44 PM |
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When i asked him about those 300 btc, he told me that only 28 BTC are from bitcoin community and the other 272 are from his personal contacts. He's such an idiot. Is 28btc worth it? When he get's caught, he'll be in trouble for the full 300btc. He better start refunding now. |
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trademark
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September 28, 2016, 02:20:26 PM |
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Many sleepless nights with Fedor for you Stas!
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September 28, 2016, 02:35:09 PM |
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When i asked him about those 300 btc, he told me that only 28 BTC are from bitcoin community and the other 272 are from his personal contacts. hmmmm, 272 BTC are from his personal contacts. Maybe they were trying to give the impression that this was a highly successful ICO in the hopes of attracting some Whales like the idiots who threw 30 K BTC at Sasha. I also have the impression that this is not the work of a single individual but rather a group of scammers. |
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trademark
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September 28, 2016, 02:35:39 PM |
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Reply from dynadot.com. The site where he registered the domain declouds.com. Anyone try his number? Registrant Phone: +49.1748826087 Hello, Unfortunately, the only way we would provide any information is with a court order requiring us to do so. The email and phone number in the Whois do seem valid. If you find they are not, you can report the inaccurate information to our abuse team at abuse@dynadot.com. Best Regards, Peyton Moore Dynadot Support Team |
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September 28, 2016, 02:36:45 PM |
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Wasted my time to promote by social. I think nobody will get payment |
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September 28, 2016, 02:37:07 PM |
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When i asked him about those 300 btc, he told me that only 28 BTC are from bitcoin community and the other 272 are from his personal contacts. hmmmm, 272 BTC are from his personal contacts. Maybe they were trying to give the impression that this was a highly successful ICO in the hopes of attracting some Whales like the idiots who threw 30 K BTC at Sasha. I also have the impression that this is not the work of a single individual but rather a group of scammers. Yeah, his last fake news about 5 million euros failed. That was his last hope to get a rush of btcs invested. |
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September 28, 2016, 03:21:02 PM |
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Very possible, but there are some differences, wasserman is trying everything to hide identity, not an interview or video to clarify the thing. But decloud showed the video when ann was published, they the yhe total opposite thing, could be in same scam group, but not the same scammer. |
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September 28, 2016, 03:24:40 PM |
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When i asked him about those 300 btc, he told me that only 28 BTC are from bitcoin community and the other 272 are from his personal contacts. Maybe he self deposited 272 btc? If this is true, he is a big scammer who must have previous scam icos therefore he could self deposit 272 btc. |
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September 28, 2016, 04:28:04 PM |
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Well... I did not await this but I think I have to make this post not as a warning but with informational character only. Everyone should think what he wants of my post.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
This is exactly the reason why I asked how the Escrow was arranged. The escow information in the OP only came up after I mentioned it, yet no one seemed bothered to ask this.( is anyone still thinking rationally or just ignorantly focussing on money?) It is a terrible idea that someone calls this an "escrow" yet the escrow key-holders have ties with the dev team. This is not how escrow works. I'm not saying they wont, but if the devs don't deliver say goodbye to your btc. pathetic that such lowlife people exist... Funny whenever you start asking questions, you're immediately called FUDer, negative person, and sometimes even threaten with banning, or other stuff. No one wants to listen, but they only see lambos, and millions in their pockets. There're still many potential scams in progress right now in crypto - you'll see it soon, and I guess your bodies are ready Yep, that's exactly what happened. Still I don't think the investors deserved it. From initial, this dev is suspicious, I hope people who saw Sj's post have not invested money on this junk project. Also, the scammer is more and more clever now, even use multi-sig to scam. We investors must be research more before investing. |
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