Is Bitcoin.it a real wiki ?

[ilovebitcoin.fr]

Hello!

Just to let you know. The fee indicated on https://fr.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:BitcoinPayment Bitcoin Payment page (you have to be registered to see it) hasn't been updated. You just have to pay 0.001 BTC to the personal bitcoin address that shows up on this page, wait 6 confirmations, maybe log out and log back in and there you are, trusted member, ready to edit wiki pages.

I edited this page: https://fr.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ#Comment_contribuer_.3F to warn french users about this glitch and encourage them to donate the reasonable 0.001 BTC and participate to the french wiki.

I'm still waiting for a magical response from MagicalTux about this big time consuming work: adding a zero on a wiki page. Still no response since february 3rd. I guess he's busy fixing the MtGox quagmire but I suggest one thing to all those top brass busy bitcoin guys: DEVOLUTION OF POWER. A wiki for a whole community shouldn't have only one administrator, particularly if he's too busy and not interested in administering it anymore.

So long.

jérôme
iLoveBitcoin . fr

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[phrackage]

You can't use this domain but I threw this up just to show you:

http://thingsgohere.com

I could set that up for you on your domain in less than a minute. Alternatively if you buy a domain and give me access to the nameserver management I will take it over from there and you can just be a contributor on the site and I'll handle general administration. I don't really care one way or another I just like doing web stuff and this seems like a chance to do some.

I got CryptoWiki.org which I'm happy to use for this purpose. Your ThingsGoHere isn't showing up.

What is the vote on what wiki to use? Mediawiki?

[warut]

I sent 0.001 BTC to the Bitcoin Wiki and waited for dozens of confirmations and logged off and logged in again, but I haven't become a trusted user. To whom should I contact?

[ilovebitcoin.fr]

Hey warut!

You have to contact the administrator of the wiki: Mark Karpeles. ‏@MagicalTux on Twitter. You can also have a list of all his email addresses on GPG key servers: https://sks-keyservers.net (enter magicaltux in the interaction page).

What was the address?

For what language did you try to pay? fr, en, other?

The trouble is that the only way to contact Mark Karpeles nowadays is to go to the front of his building in Tokyo and wait for him to come in or out...

Let us know how it turns out. If the wiki cannot welcome new editors anymore, we'll have to fork it.

jérôme
@bitcoinmars
iLoveBitcoin.fr

[warut]

Thanks, ilovebitcoin.fr. Somebody promoted me to a trusted user of the en version soon after I posted. Thank him/her, too.

[ilovebitcoin.fr]

Would it be possible for you to explain the situation and maybe answer to some of my questions?

Because you come here saying it doesn't work and then you just explain nothing so it's a bit frustrating...

Thank you for your time.

jérôme

[Abdussamad]

And no, it's not about money. I can afford to pay. But I don't want to. I don't want to contribute to a project if 90% of human beings are left stranded at the gate. That looks too much like the current financial and banking system.

I think you'll find the whole bitcoin economy is like this. There are the early adopters who are now like aristocracy and then there's the rest of us.

[roslinpl]

And no, it's not about money. I can afford to pay. But I don't want to. I don't want to contribute to a project if 90% of human beings are left stranded at the gate. That looks too much like the current financial and banking system.

I think you'll find the whole bitcoin economy is like this. There are the early adopters who are now like aristocracy and then there's the rest of us.

Wish to be an early adopter


Ehh.. but woke up just a bit too late.

[requester]

i guess its a business idea to make money. they have pos and we have to pay to edit the content instead they should pay me for making contribution to the site. its not fair.

[Xester]

Hello,

I just wanted to say that I think that the bitcoin.it wiki is far from being a wiki, as in wikipedia.

You need to pay a fee to be able to edit (0.01BTC/0.5€/0.6$) for EACH language you would like to contribute to :

https://it.bitcoin.it/wiki/Speciale:BitcoinPayment
https://fr.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:BitcoinPayment
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Special:BitcoinPayment
https://es.bitcoin.it/wiki/Especial:BitcoinPayment

And when you try to contact admin/mods through contact@bitcoin.it, you get no response (I was asking to allow me edit french pages as I made a donation to the "english" donation page.)

So my questions are : How could be a wiki that much broken become the "official" Bitcoin wiki ? How can this wiki be an incentive to get started with Bitcoins when there is only 2 pages in your language and you can't add content ?

Its normal the fees are there as a donation to their system. If they will not charge you with something then where will they get profit from their site. They are paying the host and domain monthly and your donation will be of help to them. There are no such thing as free lunch today, what i mean is if you want a good services you need to pay for it.

[Bibite]

The fees is just for spam protection. You can't imagine the number of SEO spammers that would love to place a link on any page of this wiki For the french wiki you can go to the french section and ask to someone, it is what the wiki is recommanding. At least you can get a better help than here with people with negative attitude. One of the good point of bitcoin is the community part where people can contribute in a way or another

[Taras]

You don't have to pay a fee to activate your account anymore. You just have to ask to be activated

[bhabygrim]

I agree bitcoin.it doesn't have anything to do or involve with wikipedia. Of course, anyone can study or learn about bitcoin through wikipedia, that is not forbidden. However, if you really want legit information you should rely on a more accurate source.

[Cenylus]

Hello. Small fees for editing is the only way to monetize the project? Is it enough to maintain it?

[MeshCollider]

Hello. Small fees for editing is the only way to monetize the project? Is it enough to maintain it?

There are no longer fees charged for editing, you just need to request edit permission

[Theonethatgotaway]

We have our own stand and sometimes it may seem different from each other. If you don't prefer that way you can just syop dealing with it rather than complaining, you can spend that time of complaining onto significant matters. They did that for their cause and maybe others suggested it. Just a heads up.

[Sungoku]

Well indeed you actually work for wiki sites to provide them with content and on top of the work you do for them, you even have to pay for it, it's just a silly concept. This is not an economic way of working that you know. I work for you and I have to pay you to work for you, so it is related to one another.

[Nyak put]

I think i just wanted to say if bitcoin is wiki .
That is like wikipedia 😁

[WhatsOnPic_PR]

Does anyone here know what's the problem with bitcoin wiki? How can I request edit privileges? The topic where I could do it doesn't work because the admin doesn't reply there. So I've created a page on bitcoin wiki but can't add any info there.

[Luke-Jr]

Hello,

I just wanted to say that I think that the bitcoin.it wiki is far from being a wiki, as in wikipedia.

Wikipedia does not define wikis.

You need to pay a fee to be able to edit (0.01BTC/0.5€/0.6$) for EACH language you would like to contribute to :

Or just make a request on IRC

And when you try to contact admin/mods through contact@bitcoin.it, you get no response (I was asking to allow me edit french pages as I made a donation to the "english" donation page.)

Where is this email published? AFAIK there's no mail server...