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September 10, 2016, 04:42:03 PM
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Hi,

The signature bounties will be paid after two weeks when we finally know for how much funding we got. On 19 September, after the two-week period set according to escrow to ask for refund, the funds will be released.

After some users ask us we re-organize the plan in security of the investors:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday. // Done
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ. // Done
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
6) Start the distribution & Pay the signature bounties.
7) 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
8-) Launch the beta during October.

Regards

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September 10, 2016, 04:51:59 PM
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Hi,

The signature bounties will be paid after two weeks when we finally know for how much funding we got. On 19 September, after the two-week period set according to escrow to ask for refund, the funds will be released.

After some users ask us we re-organize the plan in security of the investors:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday. // Done
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ. // Done
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
6) Start the distribution & Pay the signature bounties.
7) 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
8-) Launch the beta during October.

Regards


Thanks for the update wasserman99. Unfortunately I predict we will not even make it to the next page before 5 newbies come on here and post "why no pay bounty?", "when you release?" and "where has Frank?".

I want to commend you as you have far more patience than I do and you have done a very good job at handling this thread.... just keep doing what you are doing - completely ignore repetitive posts from the same people over and over again and just copy and paste your status updates like the one above when people repeat the same questions.
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September 10, 2016, 04:54:31 PM
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Hi,

The signature bounties will be paid after two weeks when we finally know for how much funding we got. On 19 September, after the two-week period set according to escrow to ask for refund, the funds will be released.

After some users ask us we re-organize the plan in security of the investors:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday. // Done
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ. // Done
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
6) Start the distribution & Pay the signature bounties.
7) 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
8-) Launch the beta during October.

Regards


When can we have a hangout with the devs. I like to see some of their outputs on the project. Any date for the whitepaper, I mean it is more than 1 month and yet I cant see a whitepaper on how you plan to implement on Ocaml.

And when can we see the OPAIR github in action.

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September 10, 2016, 05:14:15 PM
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Hi,

The signature bounties will be paid after two weeks when we finally know for how much funding we got. On 19 September, after the two-week period set according to escrow to ask for refund, the funds will be released.

After some users ask us we re-organize the plan in security of the investors:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday. // Done
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ. // Done
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
6) Start the distribution & Pay the signature bounties.
7) 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
8-) Launch the beta during October.

Regards


That is great news. all solutions are done .
@wasserman99, you have done a good job . Thank you
Let the Opair go smoothly.
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September 10, 2016, 05:14:51 PM
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Foex,

This was already clarified long ago:

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About the whitepaper, we currently have no news, we are still working on it but as we said in the thread, will be available before the release of our new platform.

We still have plenty of work ahead to launch our new platform. Our plan continues as before:

1) Qt wallet for the distribution.
2) In a month try the first beta with some functions. The first function in which work is in the use of the decentralized debit cards as we said before.
3) When we have a stable product, we will launch our platform.

Regards

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September 10, 2016, 05:19:59 PM
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Hi,

The signature bounties will be paid after two weeks when we finally know for how much funding we got. On 19 September, after the two-week period set according to escrow to ask for refund, the funds will be released.

After some users ask us we re-organize the plan in security of the investors:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday. // Done
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ. // Done
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
6) Start the distribution & Pay the signature bounties.
7) 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
8-) Launch the beta during October.

Regards


7 must be: 7 days after listing on exchanges the funds will be released.
When XPO will be on exchanges?
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September 10, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
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Thanks for your answer @wasserman99, hope all go as expected  Wink
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September 10, 2016, 05:45:12 PM
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Escrow here again. I received some pm to get points about this ICO to my attention that I should take care of.

Please correct me by pm on any point where Iam wrong.

So I will have to add some points. Lutpin, signature campaign manager, wanted to explain the situation on weekend to me but so far it looks like the signature campaign was not paid yet and it's unclear why it was not happening with the funds from ico 1. So when releasing the coins from investors that chose not to withdraw then I would pay the signature campaign first. They were promised payment in bitcoin I was told, right?

It would not be a problem because wasserman99 wanted to do this anyway. It makes no sense to wait 2 weeks after I released the coins to wasserman99 when these are costs that have to be paid in any case. Waiting can have no advantage.

Are there other unpaid costs as of now?

Next point is that in the plan the points distribution and release should be in the opposite order. I would tell wasserman99 all users that do want a refund. He would send the coins to all remaining users of ico 2 together with those to ico 1 investors. Then I would release the bitcoins to wasserman99. This would be a small peace of mind for investors of ico 2 that fear not getting coins when I release the coins upfront.
Though I see wasserman99 already reacted and added that point into the list at point 7, now 8.

Regarding the wallet. Everyone should make their decision. I don't want to take that decision into my own hands.

Next thing, Wasserman99, you NEED to email the investors in phase 2 so they can decide. Since it looks like you have their email address. They need to be aware of the situation. The 2 week period is for every investor to realize. Even though I do not think that an investor would not care about his investment over all these weeks. But if this way of informing exists then it should be used.

Well, next point. I will not hold the coins of phase 2 beyond the 2 weeks timeframe. Reason is, when I would do so then it would potentially risk the development of the coin, regardless of what I think about the need of that money. The investors in phase 2 decided to invest, the milestones where set up in order to show something and then decide if a refund is needed. Now the situation is so that a refund is there and possible. Not only for 2 weeks, even longer it was open. Every investor of phase 2 has to care at least so much about his investment that he checks back in this timeframe. So the milestones are not needed anymore. The refund possibility is already there and holding funds even after that is not needed when the refund period is close anyway then.

The situation lies on the table pretty clearly. So deciding can't be drawn indefinitely. If in doubt never invest. I know it sounds like siding but it's meant as a general lesson I learned. NEVER EVER invest if there is a doubt. If you have the chance of 100% profit in a year then you have to invest 100% of your own stash. Which means initially you lose 100% of your wn ofunds. The question then is not only if you receive the 100% profit but if you get back your 100% investment also. So that you could have the 200% at the end of the year. I learned the hard way.

To say something into opposite direction, a couple of persons asking for refund changed their decision after this 2 week plan came on the table.

Regarding verifying the devs. It looks clear that they won't do it. There were enough suggestions already. So everyone need to think about it what he has to think. The situation is so that ICO 2 users can get a refund.

So the plan for me has to look like this:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday. // Done
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ. // Guess it's done, since it shouldn't have a huge impact I did not check it out too much.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th. // Better before. Would be a good thing for wasserman99's when he can show at least something
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.

Please ALWAYS contact me through bitcointalk pm before sending someone coins.
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September 10, 2016, 05:57:37 PM
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Escrow here again. I received some pm to get points about this ICO to my attention that I should take care of.

Please correct me by pm on any point where Iam wrong.

So I will have to add some points. Lutpin, signature campaign manager, wanted to explain the situation on weekend to me but so far it looks like the signature campaign was not paid yet and it's unclear why it was not happening with the funds from ico 1. So when releasing the coins from investors that chose not to withdraw then I would pay the signature campaign first. They were promised payment in bitcoin I was told, right?

It would not be a problem because wasserman99 wanted to do this anyway. It makes no sense to wait 2 weeks after I released the coins to wasserman99 when these are costs that have to be paid in any case. Waiting can have no advantage.

Are there other unpaid costs as of now?

Next point is that in the plan the points distribution and release should be in the opposite order. I would tell wasserman99 all users that do want a refund. He would send the coins to all remaining users of ico 2 together with those to ico 1 investors. Then I would release the bitcoins to wasserman99. This would be a small peace of mind for investors of ico 2 that fear not getting coins when I release the coins upfront.
Though I see wasserman99 already reacted and added that point into the list at point 7, now 8.

Regarding the wallet. Everyone should make their decision. I don't want to take that decision into my own hands.

Next thing, Wasserman99, you NEED to email the investors in phase 2 so they can decide. Since it looks like you have their email address. They need to be aware of the situation. The 2 week period is for every investor to realize. Even though I do not think that an investor would not care about his investment over all these weeks. But if this way of informing exists then it should be used.

Well, next point. I will not hold the coins of phase 2 beyond the 2 weeks timeframe. Reason is, when I would do so then it would potentially risk the development of the coin, regardless of what I think about the need of that money. The investors in phase 2 decided to invest, the milestones where set up in order to show something and then decide if a refund is needed. Now the situation is so that a refund is there and possible. Not only for 2 weeks, even longer it was open. Every investor of phase 2 has to care at least so much about his investment that he checks back in this timeframe. So the milestones are not needed anymore. The refund possibility is already there and holding funds even after that is not needed when the refund period is close anyway then.

The situation lies on the table pretty clearly. So deciding can't be drawn indefinitely. If in doubt never invest. I know it sounds like siding but it's meant as a general lesson I learned. NEVER EVER invest if there is a doubt. If you have the chance of 100% profit in a year then you have to invest 100% of your own stash. Which means initially you lose 100% of your wn ofunds. The question then is not only if you receive the 100% profit but if you get back your 100% investment also. So that you could have the 200% at the end of the year. I learned the hard way.

To say something into opposite direction, a couple of persons asking for refund changed their decision after this 2 week plan came on the table.

Regarding verifying the devs. It looks clear that they won't do it. There were enough suggestions already. So everyone need to think about it what he has to think. The situation is so that ICO 2 users can get a refund.

So the plan for me has to look like this:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday. // Done
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ. // Guess it's done, since it shouldn't have a huge impact I did not check it out too much.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th. // Better before. Would be a good thing for wasserman99's when he can show at least something
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.


Thanks for this Info and all about!  Nice

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September 10, 2016, 06:10:37 PM
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So the plan for me has to look like this:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.

As we said before, we fully agree with this plan.

Regards

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September 10, 2016, 06:38:03 PM
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So the plan for me has to look like this:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.

As we said before, we fully agree with this plan.

Regards

please clear me here because im not going to read previous messages and collect my required info out. If someone wants his coins refund what he shoud do? PM to whom you or sj? or to post here before the end date?

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September 10, 2016, 07:12:11 PM
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irfan_pak10, you need to contact to SJ (send him a pm).

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So the plan for me has to look like this:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.

As we said before, we fully agree with this plan.

Regards

I'm waiting anxiously the wallet Smiley
Good job, @wasserman Smiley

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September 10, 2016, 08:16:48 PM
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Can the drama be summed up like this?  Coin dumpers are pissed that they haven't been able to dump their coins yet?  I'm perfectly chill waiting for something of value...
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September 10, 2016, 10:54:47 PM
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So the plan for me has to look like this:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.

As we said before, we fully agree with this plan.

Regards

please clear me here because im not going to read previous messages and collect my required info out. If someone wants his coins refund what he shoud do? PM to whom you or sj? or to post here before the end date?


You know man, I cannot understand why you joined a forum like this if you don't want to read. Unless you are so lazy.  Now because of your laziness, others are now confident of how Opair would be and you don't have any idea

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September 11, 2016, 01:17:10 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2016, 03:28:11 AM by Mouse020
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So the plan for me has to look like this:

1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.

As we said before, we fully agree with this plan.

Regards
It just said SJ will paid for the basic wallet (September 19-20th)
and when after you get all BTC , you will launch a beta wallet?(150BTC Buy a 0.2 BTC basic wallet?)
nothings new code things and nothings exchange things?
 Huh Huh Huh What did I get wrong?
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September 11, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
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1) Define the 9% PoW before Friday.
2) On Friday communicating the decision to SJ.
3) Release the qt wallet before September 19th.
4) On September 19th the refund period will ends and no more refunds will be accepted.
5) Escrow Pays sig campaign.
6) On September 19-20th SJ will send us the info about the refunds to update our system.
7) Start the distribution
Cool 7 days after we start the distribution the funds will be released.
9) Launch the beta during October.


So what is the status here... so we would expect payment of signature campaign on the 19th?

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September 11, 2016, 10:56:07 AM
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Yes, nothing about exchanges. Bad work

Exchanges - I think - in October ...  
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September 11, 2016, 11:45:58 AM
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Anyone who has faith in this coin hasn't been paying attention.
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September 11, 2016, 08:01:41 PM
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Yes, nothing about exchanges. Bad work

Exchanges - I think - in October ...  


I'm sure that never. You lose.



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