[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[tylerderden]

ETC has dropped nearly 20 million in market cap since 24 hours ago

It will go lower.  R3, Coinbase, and The Vitalik Foundation must destroy ETC, as it threatens to stop them from changing the definition of "smart contract" to include the threat of third party litigation.

That's a good thing because the dumps they create provide us with cheap ETC, and they will run out eventually.

Meanwhile, @NickSzabo4 retweeted blocks.elaineou.com and https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet.

Do you know what that means?  Here's a clue:



It's almost time for a Bailout Edition #REKT thread...  

I beg to differ in your opinion that Vitalik and the foundation "must destroy ETC". In fact they should be splitting their ETH to the equivalent amount of ETC right now. Once the two chains diverge it will be in their self interest for the original chain to be successful because they simply are ETC holders. If they attempt to destroy ETC the question is "what for"? It will be such a waste of time and resources.  

Nick Szabo implying to support ETC is a boost to the legitimacy of the platform. Bravo!

Your giving the 20 something year Olds that violated rule #1 far to much credit dude, that is exactly their mentality. They have already showed everyone that. Problem is they already lost they just don't know it yet.

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[bbc.reporter]

Then there is no hope for them. If even acting out of self interest will not persuade them to do the right thing then they deserve to lose everything they have ever worked hard for. It will be stupid of them to make such a move.

What is funny is they can only try to destroy ETC. Trying and doing are two different things. I hope they calculate their next move really well. Their recent ones are not something to be proud of.

[roselee]

WARNING: The guys on Slack just confirmed that the following site is a SCAM site, looks like your ETC will be sucked off to another address.

SCAM SITE:
myetcwallet.com

The guys over on Slack want to do a PSA... So I am throwing this up here. 

thanks for the heads up

thanks for warning

[szachta]

I have info in applestore there some fake wallet who steal BTC.

[rajeshgarnaik]

i think it will break 3 dollar by this week.

[greenuser]

I have info in applestore there some fake wallet who steal BTC.

look at the post prior to yours, yes some bad actors want this valuable coin. Watch out.  You can always come here and check
This is the correct and official  wallet below
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Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum)

@whatisgravity released this 6 days ago · 1 commit to master since this release
https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

This release contains a version of geth 1.4.10 specifically developed to work on the Ethereum Classic network. Without any flags, choices or additional setup you can use the Ethereum Classic network, with every feature working with ETC data.

ETC Mist Wallet currently has working conversions and easy access to Shapeshift.io's Shifty API. Revenue is generated through use of the Shifty API, revenue from this feature are currently collected by @whatisgravity. Any revenue fees will be handed over to the community development initiative.

This is a test pre-release, the OSX application is not signed because our organization does not yet have a key and the windows builds are not thoroughly tested. If the release is successful, signed Mist Browser builds will be released alongside a Mist Wallet release with enhanced security.

Please report any issues, and provide detailed information to make it easier for us to reproduce and resolve any issues quickly. Improved build scripts and in depth Linux build instructions are in the process of being edited for release.

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Good new about the dao funds but even better news of the dapps for ETC  

[roselee]

I'm not selling (never sold at loss), but I'm a little bit nervous. eth also on volume #1 again on polo

TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.  ITS ON EVERY PAGE

WHO IS THE DAO "BLACK HAT HACKER?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/source-ethereum-insiders-believe-dao-hack-inside-job/



WHAT DID THE DAO "WHITE HAT" HACKERS DO?

https://blog.slock.it/white-hat-siphoning-has-occurred-what-now-f7ba2f8d20ef#.uz2nwowrq

WHO IS THE MAIN DAO "WHITE HAT" HACKER NOW IN CONTROL OF $17M ETC?

http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-dao-hacker-getting-away-classic/



FOR THE LEAD "WHITE HAT" HACKER, LET'S TAKE A WILD GUESS, A SHOT IN THE DARK...

https://blog.slock.it/vitalik-buterin-gavin-wood-alex-van-de-sande-vlad-zamfir-announced-amongst-stellar-dao-curators-44be4d12dd6e#.n9j66jqsd



There were a Lot of Ethereum Foundation members elevated to "DAO Curator" status....

OF ALL THE ETHEREUM FOUNDATION MEMBERS...

SOLIDITY EXPERT DR. CHRIS HAD THE STRONGEST CONNECTION TO SLOCK.IT !

AND SO....THE MOST TO LOSE?

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/christian-reitwießner#/entity



"WHITE HAT" MEANS, MOTIVE AND OPPORTUNITY.....MEET DR. CHRIS



HE LITERALLY WROTE THE BOOK ON THE SOLIDITY PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE

DO YOU REALLY THINK HE STOOD ON THE SIDELINES AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY DAO HACKS?

FUNNY THING....THE FRONT PAGE OF HIS PERSONAL WEBSITE PAGE HAS BEEN TAKEN OFFLINE..

http://www.reitwiessner.de/

EVEN AS THE REST OF IT IS UP AND RUNNING...

http://www.reitwiessner.de/programs/

Maybe somebody should tell him his website has a problem via an email to christian@reitwiessner.de


Chris blogs at Ethereum:  https://blog.ethereum.org/author/christian_r/
Chris blogs at slock.it: https://blog.slock.it/blockchain-businesses-and-self-improving-daos-e1510efe82de#.7f37ndbfc
Chris codes at github: https://github.com/chriseth
Chris tweets at Twitter: https://twitter.com/ethchris


What Does Chris Tweet About These Days?


What Topic Does Chris Find Interesting?



UNTRACABLE ETHEREUM !!!

Hey Chris - IF you have a hacked DAO account...

Return ETC To Its Owners, You are A White Hat Hero...

Keep ETC For Yourself, You are A Black Hat Criminal...

CHRIS - WHAT COLOR OF HAT DO YOU WEAR?

THE AUTHORITIES ARE COMING TO ASK YOU THAT QUESTION...

BECAUSE $17M+ JUST ISN'T FORGOTTEN.  EVER.  

LIKE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.


IF CHRIS WEARS A BLACK HAT, SO DOES ETH

CHRIS - TELL US YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY....

And Also....Just More Question

What's up with legally dissolving Ethereum Switzerland?  You're a Foundation Member, you gotta know....

https://www.easymonitoring.ch/handelsregister/ethereum-switzerland-gmbh-1172550




Cross posted on the main ETH thread, just for the hell of it.

i guess to find out if there is an investigation about the 150 mill hack in thedao one has to call the cops in germany couse slockit is registed in germany.
Slock.it is a registered company in Germany - HRB 30026 - VATID DE303959655

dao is on there biz page .
so they are responsible.
even if the say no.

hmmm i was searching for a report intry number but cant find any. so is it true they didnt report it ?

This needs to be looked in to?

In case you also want to alarm the Swiss police here is their direct phone number: +41 117
Tell them that Ethereum Foundation had planned a hard fork before The DAO hack. They might help you.

i guess in the DAO Hack this would be the ones to contact slockit is registed in germany
https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/AreasOfCrime/Cybercrime/cybercrime_node.html

@bka

any news on this ?

[bbc.reporter]

i think it will break 3 dollar by this week.

It will but not this week. ETC will need to consolidate first right now. Stability is more important for now than volatility and profit taking. What good will volatility bring the platform right now? Only day traders and gamblers will love it. The community as a whole will need to do the hard work to make this platform grow and improve further. Sorry to rain on your parade but you also know this to be true.

[greenuser]

I emailed Christian (christian@reitwiessner.de) and told him he was implicated in theft and gave him links to the post above/ and on page 148 roselee.

I got no answer as yet but the dao funds are now safe and sound  https://twitter.com/eth_classic  Its upto the authorities to look into it now.

[roselee]

I emailed Christian (christian@reitwiessner.de) and told him he was implicated in theft and gave him links to the post above/ and on page 148 roselee.

I got no answer as yet but the dao funds are now safe and sound  https://twitter.com/eth_classic  Its upto the authorities to look into it now.

thank you for the update greenuser
glad to see this

[Amph]

currently what is the best and more reliable pool? i heard bad story about some of them not paying corretly, paying 50% or so

[greenuser]

currently what is the best and more reliable pool? i heard bad story about soem of them not paying corretly, paying 50% or so

There are many to choose from,  some pools are having problems, it would help if they kept us informed. 
https://etc.nanopool.org/ and https://etc.suprnova.cc/  both work well

[Wolf Rainer]

WHO IS THE DAO "BLACK HAT HACKER?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/source-ethereum-insiders-believe-dao-hack-inside-job/



WHAT DID THE DAO "WHITE HAT" HACKERS DO?

https://blog.slock.it/white-hat-siphoning-has-occurred-what-now-f7ba2f8d20ef#.uz2nwowrq

WHO IS THE MAIN DAO "WHITE HAT" HACKER NOW IN CONTROL OF $17M ETC?

http://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-dao-hacker-getting-away-classic/



FOR THE LEAD "WHITE HAT" HACKER, LET'S TAKE A WILD GUESS, A SHOT IN THE DARK...

https://blog.slock.it/vitalik-buterin-gavin-wood-alex-van-de-sande-vlad-zamfir-announced-amongst-stellar-dao-curators-44be4d12dd6e#.n9j66jqsd



There were a Lot of Ethereum Foundation members elevated to "DAO Curator" status....

OF ALL THE ETHEREUM FOUNDATION MEMBERS...

SOLIDITY EXPERT DR. CHRIS HAD THE STRONGEST CONNECTION TO SLOCK.IT !

AND SO....THE MOST TO LOSE?

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/christian-reitwießner#/entity



"WHITE HAT" MEANS, MOTIVE AND OPPORTUNITY.....MEET DR. CHRIS



HE LITERALLY WROTE THE BOOK ON THE SOLIDITY PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE

DO YOU REALLY THINK HE STOOD ON THE SIDELINES AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY DAO HACKS?

FUNNY THING....THE FRONT PAGE OF HIS PERSONAL WEBSITE PAGE HAS BEEN TAKEN OFFLINE..

http://www.reitwiessner.de/

EVEN AS THE REST OF IT IS UP AND RUNNING...

http://www.reitwiessner.de/programs/

Maybe somebody should tell him his website has a problem via an email to christian@reitwiessner.de


Chris blogs at Ethereum:  https://blog.ethereum.org/author/christian_r/
Chris blogs at slock.it: https://blog.slock.it/blockchain-businesses-and-self-improving-daos-e1510efe82de#.7f37ndbfc
Chris codes at github: https://github.com/chriseth
Chris tweets at Twitter: https://twitter.com/ethchris


What Does Chris Tweet About These Days?


What Topic Does Chris Find Interesting?



UNTRACABLE ETHEREUM !!!

Hey Chris - IF you have a hacked DAO account...

Return ETC To Its Owners, You are A White Hat Hero...

Keep ETC For Yourself, You are A Black Hat Criminal...

CHRIS - WHAT COLOR OF HAT DO YOU WEAR?

THE AUTHORITIES ARE COMING TO ASK YOU THAT QUESTION...

BECAUSE $17M+ JUST ISN'T FORGOTTEN.  EVER.  

LIKE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.


IF CHRIS WEARS A BLACK HAT, SO DOES ETH

CHRIS - TELL US YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY....

And Also....Just More Question

What's up with legally dissolving Ethereum Switzerland?  You're a Foundation Member, you gotta know....

https://www.easymonitoring.ch/handelsregister/ethereum-switzerland-gmbh-1172550




Cross posted on the main ETH thread, just for the hell of it.

[greenuser]

Looks like they have white hats on Wolf Rainer https://twitter.com/eth_classic

However, what's up with legally dissolving Ethereum Switzerland?  We still don't know the answer to that one.

https://www.easymonitoring.ch/handelsregister/ethereum-switzerland-gmbh-1172550

[RayX12]

Yes,  this is great news on the DAO funds!


https://twitter.com/eth_classic/status/763202407400673280
 Ethereum Classic @eth_classic
**Breaking News** @jbaylina has secured the DAO funds and will be attempting to return back to the DAO token holders https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4wyk47/re_the_etc_salvaged_from_attackdaos/

And here is the bad news!  I dont know what the f! is going on... Time will tell.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4x1443/white_hat_went_rogue/

[greenuser]

Yes,  this is great news on the DAO funds!


https://twitter.com/eth_classic/status/763202407400673280
 Ethereum Classic @eth_classic
**Breaking News** @jbaylina has secured the DAO funds and will be attempting to return back to the DAO token holders https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4wyk47/re_the_etc_salvaged_from_attackdaos/

And here is the bad news!  I dont know what the f! is going on... Time will tell.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4x1443/white_hat_went_rogue/

Repaly attack?  Have kraken and poloniex made a statment?

[adaseb]

Apparently the DAO funds went to a few exchanges like Kraken, Polo, Bittrex and are getting dumped.

Bittrex had a huge dump already a few minutes ago.

[szachta]

Yes,  this is great news on the DAO funds!


https://twitter.com/eth_classic/status/763202407400673280
 Ethereum Classic @eth_classic
**Breaking News** @jbaylina has secured the DAO funds and will be attempting to return back to the DAO token holders https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4wyk47/re_the_etc_salvaged_from_attackdaos/

And here is the bad news!  I dont know what the f! is going on... Time will tell.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4x1443/white_hat_went_rogue/

Repaly attack?  Have kraken and poloniex made a statment?

Someone want to sold.

[roselee]

Looks like they have white hats on Wolf Rainer https://twitter.com/eth_classic

However, what's up with legally dissolving Ethereum Switzerland?  We still don't know the answer to that one.

https://www.easymonitoring.ch/handelsregister/ethereum-switzerland-gmbh-1172550

and this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4x1443/white_hat_went_rogue/

[greenuser]

So these are eth_dao_fans dumping all their free etc.    Good let it go, they will regret that sale and we no longer have thoes funds hanging over us.  
Today will be an interesting day, i may go shopping for some low cost coins, because there will always be a etc chain.  If we are the cheaper chain, lower coin price = lower gas fees, they will use etc over eth.   It won't be long before dapps start flowwing and maybe a basic visual contract system for us GUI fiends.  Get ready Africa, Get ready China, Get ready Russia.  This coin will be afordable for everyone because ethereum will have to compete on price.  Price parity 2 weeks  

Like Charles said in last nights video (around 55mins)  it has to clear the market sometime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXc4lxBqkBw