[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[jacaf01]

So where are these donations going? Nobody has asked the important questions around here...starting to look shady as hell, wtf?

Good question!  Join our slack team tylerderden, if only to oversee the spending of our donations?  https://ethereumclassic.herokuapp.com  
PM me if you have probs joining!

Plenty room for more.     I'm sure you have valid opinions we want to hear tylerderden.  

DEV CHAT!

Feedback for your perusal  http://cointunnel.com/fetch/discussion-group.pdf

the above download is a transcript of a Dev discussion group on our progress.  I will post more as I get them.

Well done for your selfless service to the community

[bitpop]

So where are these donations going? Nobody has asked the important questions around here...starting to look shady as hell, wtf?

Good question!  Join our slack team tylerderden, if only to oversee the spending of our donations?  https://ethereumclassic.herokuapp.com 
PM me if you have probs joining!

Plenty room for more.      I'm sure you have valid opinions we want to hear tylerderden. 

DEV CHAT!

Feedback for your perusal  http://cointunnel.com/fetch/discussion-group.pdf

the above download is a transcript of a Dev discussion group on our progress.  I will post more as I get them.

Well done for your selfless service to the community

Yes thank you

[greenuser]

So where are these donations going? Nobody has asked the important questions around here...starting to look shady as hell, wtf?

Good question!  Join our slack team tylerderden, if only to oversee the spending of our donations?  https://ethereumclassic.herokuapp.com  
PM me if you have probs joining!

Plenty room for more.     I'm sure you have valid opinions we want to hear tylerderden.  

DEV CHAT!

Feedback for your perusal  http://cointunnel.com/fetch/discussion-group.pdf

the above download is a transcript of a Dev discussion group on our progress.  I will post more as I get them.

Well done for your selfless service to the community

Yes thank you

Last Shout-out,  

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Follow the progress of the 12 person Dev Team & The Bomb Disposal Squad here: https://trello.com/etcdev
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We have 100+ volunteer coders https://github.com/ethereumproject/volunteer/tree/master/Key    
994 on slack https://ethereumclassic.slack.com/messages/development/
And World support from many miners like Chandler Guo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgz7k5iTGkI
Keiser Report on RT tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmctYSF1-w&feature=youtu.be&t=1071

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One more just joined. so now 995.  Can tylerderden and any others of our supporters help make it 1000?



Also: Another big thank you to ΞPool http://www.epool.io for their 1000ETC Donation
  
https://etcchain.com/tx/0xc6f73f14c1621f6bf26464cc12bb407f17b12405afc10616ca8c2339dfad4eed

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This shows the community where the coins are being spent.

So... it looks like Phone Wallets could be here quicker than we think.  But we spend the time to make and test them well.  No rushing them to market.

[greenuser]

"New" kind of 51% attack that might explain some of the ddos stuff we have seen really heavy this week.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/krypton-recovers-from-new-type-51-network-attack-stephanie-kent?published=t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIF8c81fJ4&feature=youtu.be

Notice the method used!  go from about 11min

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8759/51-etc-attack-pool-mining-eth-until-hashrate-exceeds-etcs  has been removed

[Longsnowsm]

I think the similarities on the 51% attack conversation and what has just happened may be a dry run. 

This is very interesting, I wonder if we have anyone in Venezuela?  This might be an opportunity for ETC.  On another note, do we have anyone in Venezuela?  This might be an opportunity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83UqYwwhnDY start at 10:15 for the news story

[roselee]

wow the hackers say : we did such a good job so we expect to be payed ? for reversing the hack and giving back what belongs to others ? and puting rules out there for the ones to come to late ?


https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4zp2e0/whitehat_withdrawal_contract_update_and_next_steps/

[–]DAOWhitehatGroupredditor for less than 1 month 4 Punkte vor 19 Stunden

Hey DaxClassix,

This is a valid question. It did cross our mind, but we decided against it because:

    We did not want to take the responsibility of actively sending out all those funds to so many different people. A refund contract, just like was done with the ETH chain after the HF seems like a more prudent choice.

    This option would burn a lot of money if people have lost their keys, lost interest in ethereum or otherwise fail to access their accounts. We do not want to burn money.

We understand your concern that it may seem as if we are betting on people not claiming the money and then us receiving the remaining.

This could not be further from the truth. As per the original post a part of the remaining money may be claimed by ourselves as an expense for all the work we have put into this but the biggest part may also be donations to community development. Too many moving factors to be able to decide it now. We can not know the price of ETC in 6 months, nor how much ETC would be left in the contract.

Now as to what community developments would receive a donation and how will that be distributed, we have over 6 months left giving us ample time to think about it and we would really appreciate all the commmunity feedback we can get on that topic.

[roselee]

in the other thread they say the diff bomb is a gosip and not a fact.

does anyone know where to find it in the code ?
and if there is a link or
was it a joke by the ethereum foundation ?

or are the ETH people now misleading concerned ETH  miners ?

[greenuser]

I think the similarities on the 51% attack conversation and what has just happened may be a dry run.  

Yes i do.  Looking at the  krypton attack
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/krypton-recovers-from-new-type-51-network-attack-stephanie-kent?published=t

It has the same M.O. as the 51% attack on Classic developed by @work and @seanz123.  
https://news.bitcoin.com/ethereum-attack-classic/
(I know of these people as i used to post regularly on https://forum.ethereum.org)  
It is not beyond their coding capability if they are working together.
"@seanz123" is in Ukraine and has access to servers and knows how to build pools.
"@work" is in the US and can code well enough to understand how this can be achieved.

This was the code used on the 51% attack on Classic https://github.com/blckeagls/go-ethereum

I think krypton was a practice run.

These two people have form.  They have plotted before.  The original post has been taken down.
https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8759/51-etc-attack-pool-mining-eth-until-hashrate-exceeds-etcs
However, the video below and the above news.bitcoin.com article show most of it.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIF8c81fJ4&feature=youtu.be  (from 11 min)

This is very interesting, I wonder if we have anyone in Venezuela?  This might be an opportunity for ETC.  On another note, do we have anyone in Venezuela?  This might be an opportunity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83UqYwwhnDY start at 10:15 for the news story

Yes i have been following Venezuela for a long tome now.  My heart goes out to them but they need a working monetary system with a stable price NOW!  They cannot wait until early October.  Also, we would be testing our tech on their survival, Which is unethical in my view.   We don't have phone wallets tested yet and that is the tool they really need. Moreover, we need to stay focused on securing the ETC network, Now!  

[greenuser]

in the other thread they say the diff bomb is a gosip and not a fact.

does anyone know where to find it in the code ?
and if there is a link or
was it a joke by the ethereum foundation ?

or are the ETH people now misleading concerned ETH  miners ?

Remove lines 305-309
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/blob/master/core/block_validator.go#L303


See post by @whatisgravity
https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/issues/11

EF put it there to make mining unprofitable by Christmas and force/incentivise miners to stop hashing and go to Proof of Stake

[greenuser]

"New" kind of 51% attack that might explain some of the ddos stuff we have seen really heavy this week.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/krypton-recovers-from-new-type-51-network-attack-stephanie-kent?published=t

http://bitcoinist.net/attack-krypton-dry-run-ethereum/

[husky1971]

ETC DAO White Hat widthdraw contract nearly complete at MyEtherWallet

https://twitter.com/myetherwallet/status/769379827577032704

WTF is going on?

Scam or i don't understand.
First i buy DAO with ETH (100/1). Now i get ETC (1/100)
How much BTC i will lost

Maybe they can give me Dogecoin.

[husky1971]

So made some on monero,  I just fill up my wallet again with ETC

[Gaglam]

Maybe you should have stayed in XMR 

[randayh]

Ξpool

Hello NiceHashers,

A new Nicehash Patch has been deployed. However, we would not recommend over 2GH per address at this time. It seems to be nice and steady at 1GH. You are welcome to try it out.

Thanks again,

http://epool.io
50% Fees donated to ETC Development Fund

[greenuser]

Maybe you should have stayed in XMR  

But you can only make on XMR if it gets pumped and you have cash to invest.

It can be mined (CryptoNight) but it is the 24th in the list of most profitable coin to mine. https://www.whattomine.com/
so no good to miners.

Also, Feathercoin and GroestlCoin are far more profitable by far.  Poloniex does not list Feathercoin and is about to delist GroestlCoin.

I think Poloniex plan to survive on hype / FUD and gambling, while the PoW coins will be traded for their true value on https://bittrex.com/

So not such a bad thing if Polo delist ETC in my eyes.

https://poloniex.com/ = casino economy

https://bittrex.com/ = free market economy

Also:

PoW = scientifically proven (ecologically / empirically verified )

PoS = Experimental

If a coin price is not backed by mining, it's price is staked only by it's investors
so it ends up a bet between the long term investor and the short term one.
Polo makes it's money on the volatility of coins so the shortterm investor love them.
Here's the down side, like all casinos, the house always wins.

[greenuser]

Ξpool

http://epool.io
50% Fees donated to ETC Development Fund

Thank You for your support.

[ShooterXD]

Chart looks good for etc, maybe in two days this will start react

[greenuser]

I just got a message from "ocminer" who runs  https://etc.suprnova.cc/

"I am on vacation but of course the etc pool is running fine, still has all sorts of ddos protection and I get notified by sms  and mail as soon as any problems arise."

So all good with suprnova    Enjoy your rest "ocminer", you deserve it!

[greenuser]

Chart looks good for etc, maybe in two days this will start react

I do hope so.... soon!

@ShooterXD Your english is getting better now you support etc.  I am happy when people are learning  

[greenuser]

"LeChuckDE”  has now opened his pool to the public. etc.coinpool.biz  

LeChuckDE is a very important miner to Ethereum Classic.  
He was with us back at the start when we were only 350MH/s.
User “seanz123” had just launched his “51% attack on Ethereum Classic” form the https://forum.ethereum.org forum.
LeChuckDE, myself and a few others tried to reason with the attackers and when that failed, we spread the word and got support.
Shortly after that, the "attack pool" had an attack of its own and was ddos so hard, miners left in droves.  
(I wonder who wiped them out?)  

Anyhow his pool has quality ddos protection, IDS System and Banning-System

Dual-Server HA Enviroment Failover-Standby

each Server Hardware Stats:
2 x Intel XEON @ 4 GH/z, 8 Cores, 16 Cores total
32 GB Ram ECC
256 GB Raid 1 SSD
2 TB SAS Raid 5 15K HDD
2 x GBit Ethernet Connection to Internet (Failover-Teaming)
1 x 10 GBit Fiberchannel for Datasync between Clusternodes

Pool was founded since the start and has found 115 Blocks
has 3 Stratum-nodes for ranges 1 - 99, 100 - 350 and 351 - 4500 MH/s, last both are Nicehash-Compatible

"LeChuckDE” deserves our support, His pool is here  etc.coinpool.biz  

Ethereum Classic owes a great deal to this miner and it is good to have him on board.
Please support his pool!